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@jimhanks
I was working on the build when I realized I needed to change some of the fundamental structure in the frameworks (which Refraktions used) - mostly changing the organization of instruments in kits to a MIDI-sequencer style tracks with samples. I'll return to it soon
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Lovely. Will look forward to seeing these arrive in due course.
Playing around with Refraktions in AUM today, and noticed something weird. The settings for midi out in Refraktions launched from AUM vanished. If I shut down AUM and Refraktions, then relaunched the latter, the settings were available again. Anyone else seeing this behaviour?
I think it is supposed to do that. The host controls the settings so the options in Refraktions get hidden. They show again when in stand-alone.
Yes. Noticed same thing the other day, had a big project running in AUM n figured CPU overload was at fault.
Maybe not
Interesting - I do have it set up to hide the MIDI controls when loaded by Audiobus (that's part of the suggested MIDI integration for AB3). What I don't know is why loading it into AUM flags my app's listener for an Audiobus load...
I have a basic question (I think). Can each of Refraktions MIDI channels be triggered with LaunchPad Pro’s MIDI channel selectors? Thanks!
@ Lt_Core
Each of the RF channels can receive MIDI information on a unique MIDI channel. What sort of MIDI signal does the LaunchPad send? If it's a MIDI note, then that note would be recorded into a track. If the channel selector is a type of mute / unmute, that is not programmed yet (and I'd be curious to hear what the MIDI signal is so it is something I could program)
Thanks,
Jason
@j2snell
I’m not sure, as I’m somewhat new to all things MIDI. This is from the LaunchPad Pro’s user guide:
“MIDI Channel—The bottom two rows of pads represent the standard 16 MIDI channels. The choice of MIDI channels is fixed in the Live layout’s Session, Note and Device Modes; the User Mode’s MIDI channel, however, can be set to MIDI channels 6, 7, 8, 14, 15 or 16.”
For example, if I’m using Korg’s iM1 app, I can setup 8 different presets in iM1 and change the LaunchPad Pro’s MIDI channel to a corresponding preset’s MIDI channel to hear that synth preset.
Not sure if this is helpful or not. Thx for the reply
@Lt_Core is your goal to hear the synth sounds in Refraktions when hitting pads on the controller? If so, that should work. Hitting a pad should be a note on signal, which will play the RF synth sound and add that note to the sequencer loop.
Trying out some early morning inspiration, Refraktions playing GeoShred under AUM....and nothing. Well, not quite.
The AUM recording contained the in-built Refraktions sounds, but had recorded not a single note of what was going on with GeoShred. Tried a second time to be sure, checking that GeoShred was selected. No dice.
Third time, after reboot, got GeoShred recording. So maybe GeoShred issue?
Trying again, this time in AB3. Setting GeoShred as receiver from Refraktions, recording into AudioShare. GeoShred was NOT played by Refraktions. I did get it to record alongside Refraktions sounds, but only by manually playing it. What is going on?
Perfect, thank you!
I think it has to do with IAA, which I have not integrated. I'll look into this now...
@Zen210507
OK it looks like I got it sorted out. AUM load was triggering the ABConnected listener, even though it was being loaded as an IAA app. I'm now using a way to see if any of the MIDI ports are ABMidi ports, and if not, I keep the MIDI settings visible in RF. So, for example, RF is loaded into AUM, the MIDI settings remain visible, and if RF is loaded into Audiobus as an audio source (not a MIDI source), the MIDI settings remain visible.
Also I had a number of audio sub-ports not being used and was causing some AUM crashes when selected. That will be fixed too in the next release.
Thanks for your feedback and testing on this. The AB MIDI is a new thing to work out
sounds good, can't wait to try out the midi fix!
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You are welcome. It’s a great app, still in the making, but getting to where is is headed, fast. Thanks for your continued work, and dedication.
@Zen210507
Definitely a work in progress, and thanks for the encouragement. Update will be ready soon.
2.2.1 update is now available:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/refraktions/id866134037
I think I got all the bugs fixed that were brought up here. I write them down as they are posted, then work through the list. Let me know...
Thanks,
Jason
Looks like a great update!
Wandering around the Yucatán at the moment but had a quick play and seems very solid so far. Refraktions is evolving nicely. Thanks Jason
Love the updated Refraktions but wondering if anybody else is having these issues or if it is just something I’m setting up wrong.
Running Refraktions in AUM, having the App controlled (midi) by Rosetta Collider in Chan 1 of Refraktions. Rosetta Collider on Chan 2, Rozeta ARP on Chan 3. Cannot get Refraktions Chan’s 4-8 to be controlled by Rosetta ... or several other AU’s or IAA,s that I’ve tried.
BUT with the 3 channels running, after about 4-5 minutes Ref will crash. I’m only at 31-33% cpu, so I don’t believe that is my problem.
iPad Pro 9.7” IOS 11.2
Anybody else? @j2snell Any thoughts?
@B1Gs interesting.... I'll attempt to re-create and check the crash logs in Xcode. I was able to output 8 MIDI channels at a performance last week, but as a standalone, not in AUM. I'll test and see what I can find.
i was using Refraktions last night in AUM - had Nodebeat sending midi to Refraktions -(channels 1-5). Refraktions sending midi out to imonopoly and Zeeon in AUM. Plus some effect apps running. Worked pretty well - but noticed sometimes Refraktions would stop playing as I jumped around screens - even though Nodebeat was still sending midi to it. When i went to Refraktions i sometimes saw a message about Midi Overflow. Then as soon as I played any note on the Refraktions interface, it seemed to pick up the Nodebeat midi stream again...
@Halftone did it say "MIDI overload"? Now that I added a MIDI virtual source, I put in a check for MIDI feedback (when the notes from RF MID out are being led back into RF MIDI in), so the notes go into a "feedback" loop. When that happens I automatically stop the sequencer so it doesn't blow up. Was the setup you were using sending the outgoing MIDI sequences back into it? If not, I need to debug why that MIDI overload was being triggered...
yes midi overload. I'll have to check - but that may have been the case with midi being fed back into RF.
@j2snell
Ive been attempting to run Refractions with IDAM - whenever I connect to my laptop I get midi feedback, and it will not work.
What's the specific MIDI flow? Also, what is IDAM? I haven't used that.
IDAM is a native iOS 11 feature to flow midi and audio between iOS and Mac via lightning cable.
Can’t midi feedback be dealt with by tweaking these settings?
No matter what settings I use or select, as soon as IDAM is selected, any notes chosen on RF goes into midi feedback
Got it - I found was able to replicate the bug. I'll look into it.