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Which ipad? Upgrade time

I've decided it's time to upgrade my aging iPad mini 1, my initial thought was to buy the air 2 but now I'm looking at the pro.
Is it really worth paying out the extra for the pro (and the extra would be a bit of stretch) or will the air 2 be more than adequate ?
I mainly use cubasis and gadget plus other synth apps

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  • The air 2 was released over 2 years ago! Just on that fact, I would go with Pro, knowing Apple obsoletes hardware fairly quickly and each iOS revision will work less reliably on older hardware.

  • In same boat more or less - but I'm holding off myself... hoping that the Air 3 will see a release in a few months with Pro level specs. (more RAM / faster processor) I like the specs on the Pro, but I like the form factor of the Air a little better.

  • Are you talking about pro 9.7 or the so called big bastard? If the former you better stick with air 2. I had both and compared them extensively with audio apps and there is no difference. 2gb ram is the bottleneck for both. Unless you're attracted by the pencil business in which case pro is the one to go for.

  • edited January 2017

    @Halftone said:
    In same boat more or less - but I'm holding off myself... hoping that the Air 3 will see a release in a few months with Pro level specs. (more RAM / faster processor) I like the specs on the Pro, but I like the form factor of the Air a little better.

    Jajaja. but... iPad Pro 9.7 and iPad Air 2 look exactly the same, what do you mean exactly? Don't like the three holes for the smart connector?, don't like the camera bump? Don't like the flash?

    Those 3 are literally the only differences.

    Edit: I realized you probably mean 12.9 version, you might see 4GB of RAM in some future speculative version of the iPad Air...the moment the iPad Pro models carry 8GB of RAM on board.

  • i like the smaller size of the Air better than the Pro.

  • edited January 2017

    @Bloodline said:
    I've decided it's time to upgrade my aging iPad mini 1, my initial thought was to buy the air 2 but now I'm looking at the pro.
    Is it really worth paying out the extra for the pro (and the extra would be a bit of stretch) or will the air 2 be more than adequate ?
    I mainly use cubasis and gadget plus other synth apps

    Not worth it. go for the iPad Air 2.

    I'm the owner of both iPad Pro (12.9 and 9.7). My favorite devices ever. But (apart from music making) I also like to use the Apple Pencil with Notion for handwriting scores and taking notes, I use the Smart Keyboard for work on Office and other word processors and have made, for all intents and purposes, the 12.9 model my main PC.

    That doesn't sound like it's your case, so... it's noth worth the extra money. The iPad Air 2 it's still awesome for music making alone, that's the best option for you.

  • edited January 2017

    @Lacm1993 said:
    ...the moment the iPad Pro models carry 8GB of RAM on board.

    Looking forward to that moment!

  • i like the smaller size of the Air better than the Pro.

    iPad Pro 9.7 and iPad Air 2 have the same size.

  • @supadom said:
    Are you talking about pro 9.7 or the so called big bastard? If the former you better stick with air 2. I had both and compared them extensively with audio apps and there is no difference. 2gb ram is the bottleneck for both. Unless you're attracted by the pencil business in which case pro is the one to go for.

    That's interesting... and what I would've guessed. Instead of the Fat Bastard (just like calling it that) ;) I think I'm going to hold off for a rumored middle tier 10.5in I think. Haven't really reached any brick walls with my Air2 yet to be honest.

  • Ram is the most important and the small ipad pro got the same amount of ram (2gb)
    like the air2. Air2 got 3 cpu's running at 1500mhz and the small pro only got 2 cpu's with a higher cpu speed clocked around 2ghz (they downgraded the cpu for extra battery life). I dont think you notice much difference since most crashes are not ram, but app related.

  • I just upgraded from a 64Gb Ipad Air 1 to a 256Gb Ipad Pro. The increase in storage space is a tremendous productivity enhancement. The difference in performance running CPU-intensive apps. is astonishing!

    I got a good deal on Ebay. The seller has 100% positive feedback. It is in mint condition.

  • edited January 2017

    @supadom said:
    Are you talking about pro 9.7 or the so called big bastard? If the former you better stick with air 2. I had both and compared them extensively with audio apps and there is no difference. 2gb ram is the bottleneck for both. Unless you're attracted by the pencil business in which case pro is the one to go for.

    Interesting observation, I imagine you already optimize your set up for low CPU usage in live settings. In that case it would make sense for the bottleneck to be the RAM not CPU.

    I'm curious, did you specifically try to test high CPU scenarios and still find little difference?

  • The new iPads are apparently due in March. Rumours of three different sizes, more RAM, etc. So why not sit tight and see what actually turns up.

  • edited January 2017

    @Hmtx said:

    @supadom said:
    Are you talking about pro 9.7 or the so called big bastard? If the former you better stick with air 2. I had both and compared them extensively with audio apps and there is no difference. 2gb ram is the bottleneck for both. Unless you're attracted by the pencil business in which case pro is the one to go for.

    Interesting observation, I imagine you already optimize your set up for low CPU usage in live settings. In that case it would make sense for the bottleneck to be the RAM not CPU.

    I'm curious, did you specifically try to test high CPU scenarios and still find little difference?

    No I didn't. I honestly wouldn't know how to. I guess even if I tried to test it with a single app like a DAW for a low RAM footprint I'd expect by adding external IAA/Au plugins you'd eventually hit that bottleneck too.

    As I said I'm no expert. I just used it with my live rig which is generally RAM intensive.

    What would be a low Ram, high CPU scenario with audio?

  • I'm saving up and holding out for the Pro 2 line. :)

  • I just got myself the small Pro. The four-speaker-setup is really great, I think (for playing around on the sofa, without being plugged in, you get a lot of stereosound, I like it). Couldn't wait anymore. Didn't try any workload-comparisons yet. The Camerabump is ugly as hell, I can't forgive them that, but drawing with the pencil finally got to the point I was waiting for: ultra-fine responsive drawlines possible, while SEEING what you are doing (my fat fingers used to always be in the way, visually...). Might be worth the wait, though. Hopefully they lose the bump with new iterations in March... . Happy camper anyways, though. Cheers, t

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I'm saving up and holding out for the Pro 2 line. :)

    Ditto. The new smaller Pro didn't seem to add much to me, so I'm sticking with my Air2 this time around.

  • yup, waiting for the next Pro family. I know im going to outgrow my mini 4 rather quickly but gotta gets me more than 2gb RAM ,and I dont want the behemoth

  • edited January 2017

    IMO Air2 has the best value/performance ratio...

  • So far, the only things that my Air 2 wasn't able to deal with was more than 5 instances of Korg Lexington in Gadget and any number of Fabfilter twin / MB instances in Auria Pro and Ican't find out how the larger Pro deals with these scenarios. So, I'm in two minds to look at the (large) Pro or perhaps wait for new models.

  • Put me in the "Waiting until March" group. My iPad 4 is definitely getting long in the tooth and ready for an upgrade. Thinking about the 12.9 inch but I also want the best camera possible and most powerful processor as well so we'll see which one is best for me in March. 256GB for sure. If I had to buy now I'd get the smaller pro, but you know its price will drop in March.

  • I would wait til March too in your shoes, but hafta say I love the 12.9 and all of its works etc.

  • I would wait at this point.

    I hear many very exciting rumors.

    Plus, a bunch of new things come out prices will be down on what you are looking at now.

  • @Igneous1 said:
    So far, the only things that my Air 2 wasn't able to deal with was more than 5 instances of Korg Lexington in Gadget and any number of Fabfilter twin / MB instances in Auria Pro and Ican't find out how the larger Pro deals with these scenarios. So, I'm in two minds to look at the (large) Pro or perhaps wait for new models.

    In audiobus when you did this?

    Let me check this out tonight just to see.

    That is reason I never use the very expensive Auria Pro I have sitting there.

    I am a "performance" type artist who records live with minimal mixing. Defeats the purpose of music for me.

  • @Korakios said:
    IMO Air2 has the best value/performance ratio...

    This is what I was thinking.

  • iPad Pro 12.9 is on Apple refurb website now, fwiw.

    Value/performance ratio is pretty darn good there if you want or can put up with the bigger screen.

  • @RustiK said:

    That is reason I never use the very expensive Auria Pro I have sitting there.

    I am a "performance" type artist who records live with minimal mixing. Defeats the purpose of music for me.

    Pretty big statement right there.

  • @RustiK said:

    @Igneous1 said:
    So far, the only things that my Air 2 wasn't able to deal with was more than 5 instances of Korg Lexington in Gadget and any number of Fabfilter twin / MB instances in Auria Pro and Ican't find out how the larger Pro deals with these scenarios. So, I'm in two minds to look at the (large) Pro or perhaps wait for new models.

    In audiobus when you did this?

    ?

    Let me check this out tonight just to see.

    I'd be interested to know this.

  • @Igneous1 said:
    So far, the only things that my Air 2 wasn't able to deal with was more than 5 instances of Korg Lexington in Gadget and any number of Fabfilter twin / MB instances in Auria Pro and Ican't find out how the larger Pro deals with these scenarios. So, I'm in two minds to look at the (large) Pro or perhaps wait for new models.

    I just tried it (multiple instances of Lexington) on my 9.7" Pro, I tried 5 with no problem so I threw 3 more on there and it handled that with no problem.

  • edited January 2017

    @Dham said:

    @Igneous1 said:
    So far, the only things that my Air 2 wasn't able to deal with was more than 5 instances of Korg Lexington in Gadget and any number of Fabfilter twin / MB instances in Auria Pro and Ican't find out how the larger Pro deals with these scenarios. So, I'm in two minds to look at the (large) Pro or perhaps wait for new models.

    I just tried it (multiple instances of Lexington) on my 9.7" Pro, I tried 5 with no problem so I threw 3 more on there and it handled that with no problem.

    I have Managed 10 instances of Lexington on the iPad 12.9, (and felt like I could have thrown a couple more with no problem) but that doesn't say much, it depends on the parts being played, maybe if we had the same part a consensus could be reached about the actual difference in performance between the 3 iPad models.

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