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If Korg creates some sort of Logic Remote or Touchable style of ipad controller for the desktop version, I would suggest it to someone starting out.
At first I was like $199 is way too high, but after going through my Apple receipt emails, that how much I've spent ($201 exactly) on Gadget and Module. Admittedly I'm always hit with gear lust when a new gadget comes out and never wait for the holiday sales. I figure why wait 2 or 3 months only to save 5 or 10 bucks? That's 2 or 3 months of making tunes!
With that said I'm not tempted by desktop Gadget at all. I have too many desktop synths in my plug in folder already including NI Komplete, Arturia, etc...plus I just bought the Korg Legacy Bundle on sale for $50. I'm good on synth plugins...at some point you have to pump the brakes and get some work done.
Mmmm.
I guess the price is fair in some ways. It's a great product.
But to me as a full iOS Gadget owner already I can't really justify paying $200 on desktop Gadget. I just wouldn't use it that much (i think).
I'd rather spend that money on Logic, I think. Or possibly Live. (Logic will let you fully sync a piece of video to the timeline which I see as being really useful for composing for film/video.)
I think at $99 for Gadget I wouldn't be making those comparisons and I'd probably just buy it for the novelty of having my favourite app on the desktop and the possibility I might use it on the big screen now and again (or for more processor power for certain projects).
Oh well. I'm really looking forward to the update on iOS. And I think I've just saved $99.
...i'm probably in the minority, but even if Korg gave iOS owners of Gadget the Mac version for FREE - I still wouldn't even bother installing on my Macbook. I only care to use Gadget on iPad.
I don't even really use it on iPad much these days.
I'm all about my iPhone 6sPlus for Gadget these days.
I'm mostly interested in the Audio Gadgets for internal re-sampling...
So the Gadget that 'triggers' me the most is Recife and how it will handle samples?
(it will definitely not beat BM3 that's for sure!).
Listening to the demo song on Korg site for Recife i suspect it has some kind of chromatic mode as well because precise pitch-automation is a bloody nightmare in Gadget!
I doubt it's just a 'Souped up Bilbao'...
My sentiments entirely.
Yep, mine too. Especially the saved $99 part! If it was $99 as an "intro" price, I very likely would have suckered myself into purchasing it. Though I haven't used the desktop for music creation in years. I already suckered myself into the Arturia V-collection a few years back. Can't even use unused software as a doorstop.
That's actually a pretty good point. People keep bringing up that they would like a Kaossilator type input somewhere, but this would be pretty tricky to implement on a desktop. Would it encourage them to skip the idea altogether?
Who knows, maybe Apple will have touchscreen macs at some point. The touch bar may have been a transition to that. But I'm not holding my breath for that. I do have a pretty nice 23" touch screen working on MacOS. It needs special drivers, though, and the UI of macOS isn't very useful for touch. Also there's always only one point because it's emulating the mouse. So, although multi touch works, it's only really usable for gestures.
Yeah I'm with you, I'm only interested in using the iPad version. The mac version doesn't Tempt me at all.
Edit: wrong quote, I don't really like the iPhone version but to each its own.
They've promised cross-platform capability so I'd imagine both versions are going to be pretty tightly locked together.
awesome demo, excited again now
Interesting to see Korg is still making slight changes to the look of the new Gadgets.
They took the 'bottom' out of Rosario. Hope this doesn't affect the sound
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Current image:
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The last image seriously makes me wish we will be able to actually re-sample/record gadgets and sample external sounds with the new 'Drum Sampler' Gadget.
Logic isn't scene-based or (IMO) approachable. It doesn't have Link, either, so it's not as good for jamming with friends. Gadget is clearly designed to be competitive/compatible with Ableton Standard and Reason -- the pricing is roughly similar, and it offers an instrument-focused design like Reason while offering quick composition capabilities like Live.
There are a few reasons why someone might choose Gadget over Logic despite the price. There's a huge amount of complexity in Logic, you have to learn where things are hidden before you can use them. Gadget and Live don't have that problem. And being such a mature solution, Logic has all sorts of legacy bloat -- features that aren't part of the current "vision" but were crucial to the workflow years ago so need to stay available for longtime users. When I was trying to do something, I often found myself doing it "the old way." And while it does have undeniably-excellent instruments, many are starting to show their age. I like that it has many smaller, focused synths (ES-M, ES-E, etc.) but lately Apple is trending towards bigger "do-all" instruments with Retro Synth and Alchemy. Gadget is going to come in with 30+ small, easy to understand instruments, all of which sound awesome, and all of which have a more modern approach to skeuomorphism (not everyone will care but personally I HATE ES-2's interface).
I moved from Ableton to Logic about a year and a half ago and once I figured it out, it made a lot of sense. But when I'm writing a song, I want simple instruments and a scene-based workflow. Korg is pitching Gadget as a beginner's DAW or a second DAW for when you just want to write; in both of those instances, it makes sense and has a great value prop, even compared to more mature options.
I didn't realise they now had a headphone gadget.
The price is really not very tempting, even the 199€ intro price. After hearing about this I was considering to get reason instead... Won't get neither one, though. But I'm very much looking forward to the iOS version 3.0.
What if that's a new product, not an upgrade to what we've already paid for? What if that also costs the same as the desktop one? Which would you choose then?
I don't know but I don't think I would want to pay 199€ up front for either of them. I much prefer the iOS pricing model where you get the core app and buy what you want to add as IAPs.
The assumption here appears to be that the desktop music creation market must choose between Logic and Gadget - or some other desktop DAW and Gadget. That’s not how Korg is marketing it. And Korg apparently is not basing Gadget’s price on the price of Logic. I’m not sure any other company making a standalone or plug-in prices their product to compete with Logic. There are relatively simple plug-ins that cost more than Logic.
Personnaly, I would then hate Korg as much as I hate Retronyms lol... I invested about 300 € in Gadget iOS so far and I LOVE it but I admit that I still rely on the initial promess to have audio tracks one day... So if I now have to forget my 300€ investment and buy a new app at 200€ to get the audio tracks, I would get very pissed...
Just my own personnal opinion, but just the idea got me very pissed I admit man ;-)
It is very strange and must be psychological....the original image looks like it would give a fuller sound
I doubt you'd get any sound at all from it with the guts chopped off like that.
photoshopfail
Hmm, now when I think about it knowing the price, it may be used as a DRM protection against software pirates. Like some computer games which only work if you are online and connected to their DRM server
I hope I'm wrong though I don't care much because I'm not gonna buy it at that price. "Can't wait" turned into "can wait"
But who knows... maybe they will find a way to offer us a cross-grade option
They also left the 4 screws on top that look like the screw the top to the now non existent base
Maybe it's so you can swap out bases. Secret skinning.
Seems to me those images are 3D renders to begin with, both the rosario alone and that table set. Somebody hid a layer on The Rosario project.
I thought it was the next step in 3D Touch.
Great photo. Is that a restaurant? I hope his date doesn't mind the reel to reel and other crap crowding the table while he sits there with his headphones, working.
Pretty sure the table and equipment is all rendered, and the background is an hdri providing the lighting as well as the background.