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Sugar Bytes: Where are thou?

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  • edited January 2017

    can't use turnado due to a lazy(double tap zoom) port not optimized for the platform. Tiny controls is not good.
    And for this reason it's the first and only SB app I bought.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    i sincerely hope Thesys gets link. its literally the only thing i want them to do.
    2 linked ipads controlling hardware connected to a 3rd linked desktop is just waaaaay too much fun.
    currently midi link sync is decent but drifts sometimes.

    Hey I just heard back from sugar bytes and Thesys with Link is in review at Apple, should be out very soon :)

    Good stuff, hope it comes to Egoist too, as I'm missing this when using it with Troublemaker and Patterning.

    So for Troublemaker....Thesys or EGOist ? I'm on Mini2 so have always been put off by the murmurings about small controls being too fiddly.

    I don't have Troublemaker yet. But both would be good. You could get much more advanced and complex bass sequences with Thesys over Egoist though. But on a mini, Egoist is much easier to use.

    I can't get my head around the bass sequencer at all in Egoist, but it connects easily to other apps (I replace the Egoist bass with Cyclop sometimes as well), so outputting the Egoist bassline to Troublemaker, coupled with the drums and slicer makes a nice quick 'one-stop-shop' for mucking about, and then I'll drop in a bit of Patterning to beef up the beat once it's all going.

    Hey Mister, can you explain (one syllable words etc) how you 'connect' Egoist to/through/from/for/into whatever Troublemaker. I threw away the bass in Egoist on the first day I used it, but am thinking (because of the pattern chaining etc) that I need to revisit...any clarification greatly appreciated.

    What he said ^ In the Egoist MIDI settings (on the robot screen) it should appear as a bass destination.

    Thank you both. I was imagining it a little differently, but this is going to help (as will Link :))

  • @RustiK said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @RustiK said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    i sincerely hope Thesys gets link. its literally the only thing i want them to do.
    2 linked ipads controlling hardware connected to a 3rd linked desktop is just waaaaay too much fun.
    currently midi link sync is decent but drifts sometimes.

    How is it when hosted in two linked instances of AUM? I've found 2x Egoist to be flawless like this.

    Thesys ignores AUM's tempo completely. only thing it obeys seems to be clock from modstep or midi link sync.
    and that too isnt perfect. it drifts a bit. Link would make it rock solid.

    Ironically, it responds to Genome as it's master - Genome = Link

    Why do you like Thysis? You must have good eyes!

    I pretty much control it exclusively from my remote zero and launch control XL. Don't even look at the screen unless I'm adding modulation. Have custom templates for both controllers. Having tactile control of all 32 steps is a whole other feeling. I love it :)
    Plus you can transpose the entire pattern using midi keyboard input while still keeping it in the scale you selected. It's powerful for coming up with melodies etc.

    I need to look at it again.

    What template for Thysis? MIDI DESIGNER?

    I know there is one for Egoist.

    Actually no. It's a template for my Launchcontrol XL. It's a physical controller. Pretty much every fader in the app is mapped to physical controls. So I use Thesys as a hardware step sequencer. A step sequencer that is scale locked to the scale I want.

  • edited January 2017

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    i sincerely hope Thesys gets link. its literally the only thing i want them to do.
    2 linked ipads controlling hardware connected to a 3rd linked desktop is just waaaaay too much fun.
    currently midi link sync is decent but drifts sometimes.

    Hey I just heard back from sugar bytes and Thesys with Link is in review at Apple, should be out very soon :)

    Good stuff, hope it comes to Egoist too, as I'm missing this when using it with Troublemaker and Patterning.

    So for Troublemaker....Thesys or EGOist ? I'm on Mini2 so have always been put off by the murmurings about small controls being too fiddly.

    I don't have Troublemaker yet. But both would be good. You could get much more advanced and complex bass sequences with Thesys over Egoist though. But on a mini, Egoist is much easier to use.

    I can't get my head around the bass sequencer at all in Egoist, but it connects easily to other apps (I replace the Egoist bass with Cyclop sometimes as well), so outputting the Egoist bassline to Troublemaker, coupled with the drums and slicer makes a nice quick 'one-stop-shop' for mucking about, and then I'll drop in a bit of Patterning to beef up the beat once it's all going.

    Hey Mister, can you explain (one syllable words etc) how you 'connect' Egoist to/through/from/for/into whatever Troublemaker. I threw away the bass in Egoist on the first day I used it, but am thinking (because of the pattern chaining etc) that I need to revisit...any clarification greatly appreciated.

    What he said ^ In the Egoist MIDI settings (on the robot screen) it should appear as a bass destination.

    Thank you both. I was imagining it a little differently, but this is going to help (as will Link :))

    Egoist can sync to the host IAA app so that it will start, stop, record via the IAA host app's transport controls. Although it doesn't have Link yet it can still sync to a tempo of 60 bpm or higher in an IAA host like AUM which does have Link.

  • @InfoCheck said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    i sincerely hope Thesys gets link. its literally the only thing i want them to do.
    2 linked ipads controlling hardware connected to a 3rd linked desktop is just waaaaay too much fun.
    currently midi link sync is decent but drifts sometimes.

    Hey I just heard back from sugar bytes and Thesys with Link is in review at Apple, should be out very soon :)

    Good stuff, hope it comes to Egoist too, as I'm missing this when using it with Troublemaker and Patterning.

    So for Troublemaker....Thesys or EGOist ? I'm on Mini2 so have always been put off by the murmurings about small controls being too fiddly.

    I don't have Troublemaker yet. But both would be good. You could get much more advanced and complex bass sequences with Thesys over Egoist though. But on a mini, Egoist is much easier to use.

    I can't get my head around the bass sequencer at all in Egoist, but it connects easily to other apps (I replace the Egoist bass with Cyclop sometimes as well), so outputting the Egoist bassline to Troublemaker, coupled with the drums and slicer makes a nice quick 'one-stop-shop' for mucking about, and then I'll drop in a bit of Patterning to beef up the beat once it's all going.

    Hey Mister, can you explain (one syllable words etc) how you 'connect' Egoist to/through/from/for/into whatever Troublemaker. I threw away the bass in Egoist on the first day I used it, but am thinking (because of the pattern chaining etc) that I need to revisit...any clarification greatly appreciated.

    What he said ^ In the Egoist MIDI settings (on the robot screen) it should appear as a bass destination.

    Thank you both. I was imagining it a little differently, but this is going to help (as will Link :))

    Egoist can sync to the host IAA app so that it will start, stop, record via the IAA host app's transport controls. Although it doesn't have Link yet it can still sync to a tempo of 60 bpm or higher in an IAA host like AUM which does have Link.

    Thanks for the nudge. I love Egoist and I sense a new snogathon coming on this weekend....

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @InfoCheck said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    i sincerely hope Thesys gets link. its literally the only thing i want them to do.
    2 linked ipads controlling hardware connected to a 3rd linked desktop is just waaaaay too much fun.
    currently midi link sync is decent but drifts sometimes.

    Hey I just heard back from sugar bytes and Thesys with Link is in review at Apple, should be out very soon :)

    Good stuff, hope it comes to Egoist too, as I'm missing this when using it with Troublemaker and Patterning.

    So for Troublemaker....Thesys or EGOist ? I'm on Mini2 so have always been put off by the murmurings about small controls being too fiddly.

    I don't have Troublemaker yet. But both would be good. You could get much more advanced and complex bass sequences with Thesys over Egoist though. But on a mini, Egoist is much easier to use.

    I can't get my head around the bass sequencer at all in Egoist, but it connects easily to other apps (I replace the Egoist bass with Cyclop sometimes as well), so outputting the Egoist bassline to Troublemaker, coupled with the drums and slicer makes a nice quick 'one-stop-shop' for mucking about, and then I'll drop in a bit of Patterning to beef up the beat once it's all going.

    Hey Mister, can you explain (one syllable words etc) how you 'connect' Egoist to/through/from/for/into whatever Troublemaker. I threw away the bass in Egoist on the first day I used it, but am thinking (because of the pattern chaining etc) that I need to revisit...any clarification greatly appreciated.

    What he said ^ In the Egoist MIDI settings (on the robot screen) it should appear as a bass destination.

    Thank you both. I was imagining it a little differently, but this is going to help (as will Link :))

    Egoist can sync to the host IAA app so that it will start, stop, record via the IAA host app's transport controls. Although it doesn't have Link yet it can still sync to a tempo of 60 bpm or higher in an IAA host like AUM which does have Link.

    Thanks for the nudge. I love Egoist and I sense a new snogathon coming on this weekend....

    That's the nice thing about having bucketloads of apps, you get to rediscover them all over again when you whip them out of the dusty cupboard.

    I had a go with Thesys and Cyclop earlier, haven't mucked about with those for months and almost made a thing.

  • @Redo1 said:
    can't use turnado due to a lazy(double tap zoom) port not optimized for the platform. Tiny controls is not good.
    And for this reason it's the first and only SB app I bought.

    These apps are really best suited to MIDI control

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @InfoCheck said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    i sincerely hope Thesys gets link. its literally the only thing i want them to do.
    2 linked ipads controlling hardware connected to a 3rd linked desktop is just waaaaay too much fun.
    currently midi link sync is decent but drifts sometimes.

    Hey I just heard back from sugar bytes and Thesys with Link is in review at Apple, should be out very soon :)

    Good stuff, hope it comes to Egoist too, as I'm missing this when using it with Troublemaker and Patterning.

    So for Troublemaker....Thesys or EGOist ? I'm on Mini2 so have always been put off by the murmurings about small controls being too fiddly.

    I don't have Troublemaker yet. But both would be good. You could get much more advanced and complex bass sequences with Thesys over Egoist though. But on a mini, Egoist is much easier to use.

    I can't get my head around the bass sequencer at all in Egoist, but it connects easily to other apps (I replace the Egoist bass with Cyclop sometimes as well), so outputting the Egoist bassline to Troublemaker, coupled with the drums and slicer makes a nice quick 'one-stop-shop' for mucking about, and then I'll drop in a bit of Patterning to beef up the beat once it's all going.

    Hey Mister, can you explain (one syllable words etc) how you 'connect' Egoist to/through/from/for/into whatever Troublemaker. I threw away the bass in Egoist on the first day I used it, but am thinking (because of the pattern chaining etc) that I need to revisit...any clarification greatly appreciated.

    What he said ^ In the Egoist MIDI settings (on the robot screen) it should appear as a bass destination.

    Thank you both. I was imagining it a little differently, but this is going to help (as will Link :))

    Egoist can sync to the host IAA app so that it will start, stop, record via the IAA host app's transport controls. Although it doesn't have Link yet it can still sync to a tempo of 60 bpm or higher in an IAA host like AUM which does have Link.

    Thanks for the nudge. I love Egoist and I sense a new snogathon coming on this weekend....

    That's the nice thing about having bucketloads of apps, you get to rediscover them all over again when you whip them out of the dusty cupboard.

    I had a go with Thesys and Cyclop earlier, haven't mucked about with those for months and almost made a thing.

    Agreed. And in a world of perfect 16 bar patterns that don't go anywhere further, I love apps that allow a simple chaining together of patterns into parts into songs...

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    i sincerely hope Thesys gets link. its literally the only thing i want them to do.
    2 linked ipads controlling hardware connected to a 3rd linked desktop is just waaaaay too much fun.
    currently midi link sync is decent but drifts sometimes.

    Hey I just heard back from sugar bytes and Thesys with Link is in review at Apple, should be out very soon :)

    Good stuff, hope it comes to Egoist too, as I'm missing this when using it with Troublemaker and Patterning.

    So for Troublemaker....Thesys or EGOist ? I'm on Mini2 so have always been put off by the murmurings about small controls being too fiddly.

    I don't have Troublemaker yet. But both would be good. You could get much more advanced and complex bass sequences with Thesys over Egoist though. But on a mini, Egoist is much easier to use.

    I can't get my head around the bass sequencer at all in Egoist, but it connects easily to other apps (I replace the Egoist bass with Cyclop sometimes as well), so outputting the Egoist bassline to Troublemaker, coupled with the drums and slicer makes a nice quick 'one-stop-shop' for mucking about, and then I'll drop in a bit of Patterning to beef up the beat once it's all going.

    Hey Mister, can you explain (one syllable words etc) how you 'connect' Egoist to/through/from/for/into whatever Troublemaker. I threw away the bass in Egoist on the first day I used it, but am thinking (because of the pattern chaining etc) that I need to revisit...any clarification greatly appreciated.

    @Bartlinux said:
    Open Troublemaker, Open egoist,
    Goto midi Settings
    Bass Destination
    Thats all

    @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    i sincerely hope Thesys gets link. its literally the only thing i want them to do.
    2 linked ipads controlling hardware connected to a 3rd linked desktop is just waaaaay too much fun.
    currently midi link sync is decent but drifts sometimes.

    Hey I just heard back from sugar bytes and Thesys with Link is in review at Apple, should be out very soon :)

    Good stuff, hope it comes to Egoist too, as I'm missing this when using it with Troublemaker and Patterning.

    So for Troublemaker....Thesys or EGOist ? I'm on Mini2 so have always been put off by the murmurings about small controls being too fiddly.

    I don't have Troublemaker yet. But both would be good. You could get much more advanced and complex bass sequences with Thesys over Egoist though. But on a mini, Egoist is much easier to use.

    I can't get my head around the bass sequencer at all in Egoist, but it connects easily to other apps (I replace the Egoist bass with Cyclop sometimes as well), so outputting the Egoist bassline to Troublemaker, coupled with the drums and slicer makes a nice quick 'one-stop-shop' for mucking about, and then I'll drop in a bit of Patterning to beef up the beat once it's all going.

    Hey Mister, can you explain (one syllable words etc) how you 'connect' Egoist to/through/from/for/into whatever Troublemaker. I threw away the bass in Egoist on the first day I used it, but am thinking (because of the pattern chaining etc) that I need to revisit...any clarification greatly appreciated.

    What he said ^ In the Egoist MIDI settings (on the robot screen) it should appear as a bass destination.

    What they said.

    Egoist does some really cool things when you dig deep.

    Try this, make an EGOIST song type thing and then drive something like StepPolyArp BANGO

  • .Not sure what happened to the Thesys update. Maybe it got stuck in the pipes somewhere...?
    Sugar Bytes definitely said it was in review....

  • @Carnbot said:
    .Not sure what happened to the Thesys update. Maybe it got stuck in the pipes somewhere...?
    Sugar Bytes definitely said it was in review....

    I keep checking the app store...

  • @pierre said:

    @Carnbot said:
    .Not sure what happened to the Thesys update. Maybe it got stuck in the pipes somewhere...?
    Sugar Bytes definitely said it was in review....

    I keep checking the app store...

    Well good news is, it's still coming and there was a bug. Fingers crossed it's next week but no promises... :)

  • @Carnbot said:

    @pierre said:

    @Carnbot said:
    .Not sure what happened to the Thesys update. Maybe it got stuck in the pipes somewhere...?
    Sugar Bytes definitely said it was in review....

    I keep checking the app store...

    Well good news is, it's still coming and there was a bug. Fingers crossed it's next week but no promises... :)

    You pinky swear?

  • @RustiK said:

    It's out of my hands (and pinkies) ;)

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