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David was right about his predictions about the music industry.
David said in 2002:
Music itself is going to become like running water or electricity. So it’s like, just take advantage of these last few years because none of this is ever going to happen again. You’d better be prepared for doing a lot of touring because that’s really the only unique situation that’s going to be left. It’s terribly exciting. But on the other hand it doesn’t matter if you think it’s exciting or not; it’s what’s going to happen.
It's true. Thanks to streaming music, the sensation of "getting" and "owning" an album has eroded into the much less engaging certainty of having access to music.
Not saying it's a bad development per se, but there's certainly a lot of positive emotional aspects getting lost in the process when music is becoming something ubiquitous and taken for granted. It's becoming a pleasant background ambiance that's always there, like your heating and electric light.
I've started buying vinyl albums again
I'm still not subscribed to any streaming music service. I know that I appreciate music much more when a carefully select an album to buy (I also never buy individual tracks) and then play it a bazillion times. For really great music albums it takes time to grow on me and fully settle in. Sometimes the tracks I dismissed at first grow to become my favorites.
I also don't and won't use any streaming service for music as long as possible and i still "buy" the music i like but the future is not bright for selling music.
New generations will think music is like water snd electricity. They turn on a button and music will be generated by A.I. depending on their mood and genre preferences.
Better get now a star because independent musician's life will be harder
I often think these days like an old fart (maybe i am now) i laughed about myself in my youth...."in the past everything was better".
Of course not everything. But a lot things get lost and will never come back.
Probably one of the main parts of getting old and dying out is the loss of touch with 'the current'. It is paradoxical yet makes a lot of sense as the focus shifts to the most dynamic and fertile. We get wiser (some of us) as we get older but at the same time the connection with the new generations gets more vulnerable. This is why the fact that the 'old sage' is no longer a celebrity worries me. Yet it is so refreshing to see some young people digging in the past and living the old music heroes, beyond what mainstream pumps into their heads.
I suppose the percentage of the seekers has always been the same. Low but steady. That's what it isn't obvious and gets blasted by the bright lights of the celebrity culture that again paradoxically have produced the stars like Bowie.
But maybe I'm wrong...one loses perspective with age too
By the way, there is a great doc about him on BBC IPlayer
Not just music either, books are going the same way with kindle unlimited. And there's Readly for magazines.
I grow in the 80's and early 90's but forget about all the amazing music from this decade, looked forward and get used to up-to-date stuff.
While i still like a lof the modern stuff i felt back to the love of the 80's music and think it was one of the most interesting decade for music.
It has nothing to do because i grow up with it but i heard a lot different stuff out of every decade from before i was born up to the newest things today in the last years and there is some magic for me in this 80's decade in terms of pop and film music i miss today.
Of course it's a personal thing.
Television news is going the same way too. We grew up with an industry like the one featured in the 1976 Sydney Lumet film Network[1]. That industry does not exist any more, and the current news channels haven't fully realised that yet.
[1] a must watch, if you haven't seen it for a while http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/
and food. Went to a shop yesterday for the first time since 1977 and was devastated not to find a box of Vesta Chow Mein with those crispy noodles anywhere in ASBO. Angel Delight isn't a delight anymore either.
Haven't you heard? Crispy noodles passed away in 2016. It was a bad year.
http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=257550162
I still love listening to albums from start to finish and discovering the lesser known gems on them. While I miss the tactile experience of vinyl, I really like having access to my entire record collection wherever I am. I did the three month trial of Apple Music, but I really didn't care for it. Interestingly, it didn't always have the version of the song I wanted to hear; it was sometimes a "remaster" or "single" version of the song. Ironically enough (in the context of this thread), it happened several times with Bowie tracks. I didn't renew and will continue buy "albums" in their modern form (for now anyway).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispy_Ambulance
Wow! Thank you so very much. Made my day. Yum! Will get a game of Buckaroo out, whack a UK Subs album on max and munch till my paper round starts.![:) :)](https://forum.loopypro.com/resources/emoji/smile.png)
I bought his last album Blackstar on vinyl(haven't been ready yet to play it in the right environment for the right experience).
cool song. Earl Slick said he's never seen David happier than on that tour (so happiness and age relationship is?)
Never Get Old
Better take care
I think I better go, I better get a room
Better take care of me
Again and again
I think about this and I think about personal history
Better take care
I breathe so deep when the movie gets real
When the star turns round
Again and again
He looks me in the eye says he's got his mind on a countdown
3, 2, 1
Forever
I'm screaming that I'm gonna be living on till the end of time
Forever
The sky splits open to a dull red skull
And my head hangs low 'cause it's all over now
And there's never gonna be enough money
And there's never gonna be enough drugs
And I'm never ever gonna get old
There's never gonna be enough bullets
There's never gonna be enough sex1
And I'm never ever gonna get old
So I'm never ever gonna get high
And I'm never ever gonna get low
And I'm never ever gonna get old
Better take care
The moon flows on to the edges of the world because of you
Again and again
And I'm awake in an age of light living it because of you
Better take care
I'm looking at the future solid as a rock because of you
Again and again
want to be here and I want to be there
Living just like you, living just like me
Forever
Putting on my gloves and bury my bones in the marshland
Forever
Think about my soul but I don't need a thing just the ring of the bell in the pure clean air
And I'm running down the street of life
And I'm never gonna let you die
And I'm never ever gonna get old
And I'm never ever gonna get
I'm never ever gonna get
I'm never ever gonna get old
And I'm never ever gonna get
And I'm never ever gonna get
Never ever gonna get old
SONGWRITERS
DAVID BOWIE
PUBLISHED BY
LYRICS © TINTORETTO MUSIC
Ironically if you are a true musical seeker the streaming subscription services like Apple Music are the least likely places to own the distribution rights to indipendent (interesting) artists who generally try to release on own labels.
I get my biggest musical thrills listening to unsigned artists on Soundcloud these days. People who make music for the fun of it. Wonderful, strange sounds on there.
MOG (now defunct, but was THE best streaming service) opened up a whole new world of discovery to me. It's a different way of consuming music, but I like it just the same and I still stream full albums. I'll always have nostalgia for going to the record store and taking a flyer on something I've never heard of, though.
When DAT tape was introduced by Sony in 1987 the RIAA was on the attack of the format immediately, calling it the death of the music industry. Sony & the other DAT manufacturers created their own copy protection scheme SCMS, but it effected sound quality and by the time it was implemented the DAT was already DOA. In the pro market it flourished (my first over $500 gear purchase was for a Tascam DA-30mkII DAT machine), but it, along with DCC, MiniDisc, etc never took hold in the consumer market.
I feel like that old copy protection technology or something should have been implemented soon after the Napster fallout. But the RIAA was more proactive towards DAT than they ever were to digital audio file sharing & mp3's. It took them FOREVER to see what a true danger it could be. When they finally did see how dangerous it was, it was already over.
Even if every label, every artst, BMI and ASCAP pulled their music from streaming services today it is too late. The CD is the final physical format. Let's say even if that fantasy of the streaming being cutoff was realized and some other delivery method was introduced, guess what? Yep, it would be hacked and defeated in days.
Record sales will never be the same but the only thing that can keep a business alive for musician/producers like us is if the technology is created and used to monitor synch rights, film, TV & internet placement and songwriting publishing. It's in it's infancy now, and there are still people within the big 3 labels who believe they can resuscitate the business and coexist with streaming and new technology.
Good luck, hope it works. But as of today if you don't play live, have a huge online & social media following, then times are gonna be tough. Hell even supposed "top names" of today don't sell half of what others did a decade or two ago. Plus with the entertainment haze & the cult of celebrity forcing thousands of entertainment choices down the consumers throat it's nigh impossible to get traction on a large scale.
The playing field is level now, which is the silver lining to this post Napster/MP3/digital streaming situation. Everyone can make music in extremely high quality for little money and anywhere they choose, AND everyone can put their work online and use a myriad of techniques to get it in front of as many eyes & ears as possible.
If the passion is there, the hard work, drive and dedication is there and most importantly, if a great song/music is there, I still believe that cream rises.
There's just tons more shit you gotta rise up from now, with only so much time left in your life...
I mostly listen to chanceswithwolves.com these days. It isn't new music, but it stirs creativity and you sure as hell won't find it streaming.
Problem with radio music is that there's invariably some jock cutting out the beginning or end, or talking over it. And then you'll hear something really good and they won't say who it was. I listen to the radio every day, but more for the chat than the music.
I don't think it is, and it hasn't. The big problem with radio and TV is that it's an elite club, and most of us would never have a hope in hell of getting our music played on it, and most channels pumped out the same old guff via tired old playlists.
I struggled for years trying to find albums and hear artists music when I was a teenager. Nothing glamorous about it, it was a pain in the ass, and an expensive one at that - probably two thirds of my LP collection I'll never listen to again because they're crap.
I get to discover more new music in 6 weeks than I would have done in 6 years, pre-internet. When I find something I like I buy the CD if there's one available.
This ICE thing seems interesting:
http://www.prsformusic.com/aboutus/press/latestpressreleases/Pages/ice-souncloud-reach-multi-territory-agreement.aspx
This is a step in the right direction. Eventually there will be a few (probably one) global music rights organizations that do this sort of arrangement for all recorded music.
I've also wondered why the US Copyright Office and counterparts from the other countries don't look into a better registering technology that can be implemented now that streaming is so prevalent. It used to be "published" work but I think some sort of registry code or digital watermark should be available for protection soon after creation.
+1
Those guys are right around the corner from me in Gowanus!
Although you are in fact streaming it...!
+1
Interesting thread. Think we're only nuzzling at the surface here of fundamental change, but suspect each generation (or two) faces the same as they retreat. My son doesn't consider it to be so; he will have his own, and I pity him not walking up to the station on Thursday mornings to get his copy of the NME, to know what it felt like to be able to buy that new album you've been waiting for, maybe to play his tennis racket like a guitar in front of the mirror, but he doesn't mind or miss these things at all....perambulations like these always make me wish I could have an hour or two with my own father again, ask him what he truly missed, what I missed, but, of course, too late....
Quite an interesting video about Millenians (todays youth). It's an interview with Simon Sinek about how a generation that's always connected to the internet grew up and there feelings and ideas of the world. Everything has become instant for a lot of those young people. Like music you want to hear, movies you want to see or dating.
Never getting old never gets old.
In the past there were several interest P2P clients (like Napster en SoulSeek) where you could search for very obscure music stuff just because so many people used them. Copyright lawsuits and an imploding userbase took those clients down or rendered them worthless. Later a lot of blogs sharing obscure music stuff (like for example no-longer-forgotten-music that held a huge archive of nearly all 70s and 80s cassette labels) through file sharing websites became the thing for seekers. But this imploded when file sharing sites became under attack (megaupload). Nowadays you have paid streaming services where you unfortunatelly can't find the obscure stuff for that you have Soundcloud nowadays. But for the older stuff you have to go to YouTube. With this last site I see more and more things removed. They take down also the more obscure stuff quite easily.