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Politics:
Interviewer: What do you think of the French Revolution
Zhou Enlai: Too soon to tell
Apps:
I buy Apple (hardware) products because of the app range. The heartless market says if the prices go up too much opportunity will exist elsewhere.
Your attitude speaks volumes. Not interested. Have a nice life.
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You are quite right, Oscar. This real enemy is not each other, but the meat corporations exploiting any excuse to screw us all, regardless of political views.
Troll.
As always, JohnnyGoodyear has it right.
Perhaps somewhat OT, but they have indeed manged to divide people with this Brexit thing - across people with similiar political views (ordinarily) even.
I have to say, I just don't thing it's that important in the scheme of things. The (mainstream) media are all over it, but over time, I think it will be seen as not such a major thing in the vast majority of people's lives.
Remember when we were all supposed to be in mortal dread of the millenium bug ?
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Yes. I made a few quid from that, advising corporate types who thought their systems would melt.
Tell me about it. I'm a (very) left-wing Brexiteer (the Bennite view) and it's put me at odds with many of my peers and friends. It's actually pretty interesting being on the other side of the debate, although slightly disturbing to be on the same side as Farage, Gove, Johnson et al. Still, Corbyn was anti-EU for 30 years (and probably still is secretly, probably didn't want another battle with PLP).
Most of my family live in France, and they're still in love with the European ideal, and I sympathise. But the European reality does not match that dream. The Lisbon Treaty, and the Stability and Growth Pact etc... are far more neoliberal than anything Thatcher ever did.
You must all be very rich then. Because if you aren't, then you'll soon discover it's more than apps that you can't afford.
Let the panic buying begin
I'm not rich, but I make the majority of my income in dollars, so for me personally the devaluation has been good. On the other hand my nephew runs a lumber business in Scotland and for him it's been disastrous. Every economic swing is a mixture of good and bad. For exporters the fall in the currency is a good thing, for importers it's bad.
No-one from google was available to comment apparently
I'd assumed that you were LITERALLY 'Rich'.. Richard
I knew a musician called Richard who used to introduce himself as "Hi I'm Rich but I haven't got any money"...
[x] Cheesy
[x] Effective
That's the split that's going on, none of this is political, in fact as a Corbyn supporter I've been pretty disgusted with his lack of opposition.
As I've said in other threads the Brexit vote is having a disastrous effect on my income, business, and the Mrs is set to lose her job next year due to the loss of EU funding for the role. The education and health services here are in meltdown, and local foreign workers are feeling threatened. Prices for pretty much everything are going up. As for exporters, they may not be so happy if their EU importers slap extra tax and tariffs on their products.
Maybe, this will all work out for the best but it's going to take a very long time for it to happen, if it does, and a lot of people are going to suffer in the meantime.
@MonzoPro some of that is not because of Brexit though, but because of Austerity - which economically has and will continue to be far more damaging than Brexit.
Austerity is a completely idiotic policy, and has done untold harm to our economy for the last 7 years. And even more damage in the Eurozone.
If in doubt. Blame brexit!
Yawn.
Ain't seen nothing yet, b, b, baby
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Exactly. Those of us past the first flush of youth have seen economic turns before, heard the gnashing of teeth and warnings of apocalypse.
The circle WILL turn. Hopefully fast enough to help out those at the sticky end right now.
Are we still allowed to win Eurovision?
We'll never know
The NHS and education services have been run down by the Tories, that's what they do because they want to sneak in private service provision run by their mates, but the money required to pay for Brexit and the tightening of immigration laws will hit it even harder. The recent price rises for tech gear and food though are firmly linked to the fall in the pound, which is almost wholly as a result of the Brexit vote:
Is that a company that makes cool sunglasses?
What happened to all the area between zero and 1.19?
Look, it's not all bad news, someone's making some money - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-17/billionaire-luxottica-founder-secures-legacy-with-essilor-deal
everything is political...because words like politics, agendas, and political correctness exist to release people from the obligation of using words like justice, equality, and sharing... just sayin.
@MonzoPro yes the fall in the currency will lead to a one-off rise in inflation. The price of imports will rise to offset the fall in the currency, and this will affect a very wide range of products. Hence the Marmite wars etc...
For the record (as much as I believe this isn't the place for such a keeping) I don't agree with your view as regards Brexit. But that's what we both have, a view, informed more or less by the state of our own personal political consciousness/experience. I like and respect Mister @richardyot, but I also disagree with his proto-Bennite view (although I would probably be considered Bennite on many other issues). From a theoretical stance, I think the Trotskyite notion that to see real change you need things to get much worse before they get better, is an effective strategy, but I am far, far too soft to see it through.
I like my Zhou quote because a) he was a very smart fellow and b) it takes the long view of history. This, to some degree, gives me permission to sit on the sidelines, which is a morally bankrupt place to be, but I have come to realize that I am probably bankrupt in this way. Be very clear, this is not a matter of right or left, but one of engagement rather than spouting off. Doing, not just talking or trolling. And it is because I do so very little -in real terms- that I also try, at least as much as I can, to refrain from telling other people that they should be walking the talk etc. Or that they're horrible people who are horribly wrong. On a music forum especially.
Another heartwarming merger!
Turkey, Israel and Australia are allowed so I don't really see it as a problem being part of the 'cirkus'