How Big is Too Big....???

Shazamm

@GospelMusicians said:

@AndyPlankton said:
I am on a 16GB iPad Mini 2, both sizes are too rich for me.....what about being able to selectively install a particular soundset ? That way you could have a choice not only of which format High or reduced quality, but also be able to pick an individual instrument if you wanted too.

It's not like the lower filesize will sound terrible. We can still make it sound amazing.

I have 2 ipad pros so I would love file size of 7 gig i need high quality sounds because im trying to prove on my youtube channel that you can do alot on an ipad that you can do on a more than a computer at the same price

Daveypoo

@GospelMusicians said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@GospelMusicians said:

@AndyPlankton said:
I am on a 16GB iPad Mini 2, both sizes are too rich for me.....what about being able to selectively install a particular soundset ? That way you could have a choice not only of which format High or reduced quality, but also be able to pick an individual instrument if you wanted too.

It's not like the lower filesize will sound terrible. We can still make it sound amazing.

I wasn't suggesting it would sound bad, just pointing out that a reduced number of instruments would allow those with limited space to still use the app along with those who are not limited by space.

Even as 2GB it would be too big for me, but If I could install just selected instruments it could work for me.

Ahhh...I see! So the ability to load and unload different instruments to choose sizes. That makes sense! The problem with this method is the preset making method. You see if we make presets, then the presets will use the sounds. So it'll leave you with a ton of presets that may or may not work, because of the choice of sounds you choose.

This I think would be the best option. Large file sizes for those who have the space, smaller ones for those who don't. I just upgraded from an iPad Air 2 with 16GB to an iPad Pro 12.9 with 256GB, so I've been on both extremes. Prior to the upgrade, space was at a premium so the smaller size would be perfect, however since upgrading I now have space to spare, so I'd go full bore.

Also, as long as you can make your own presets, I don't mind so much not having too many pre-made. Or you could have both - LQ presets for the small sample size, HQ presets for the large sample size. I don't know how difficult that would be, however....

I LOVE the other Neo-Soul Keys app, so I'm fully on board for this. I'm dying over here!

kagamul

@GospelMusicians said:
We will allow users to download the EPs they want to be able to control their own size . That way if you only want certain EPs, then you get the ones you love without weighing down the iPad.

Hello, everybody! Just joined - first post here!

Awesome Idea, with the downloading of single EPs!
I'm definitely for the best sound-quality possible. I love the Neo Soul Keys app and I can't wait to be playing the new Wurlys!!!

Pegleg85

What is the timeline for the new NeoSoul KB?

chris_e36

Ok lets be real, most humans can only hear up to 20-22 khz. How many of you can hear higher frequencies than that? High quality sounds are cool and all but does it really make that much difference to our ears? However, I have enough storage and that is not a matter to me. Go with 7 Gb lol

Telefunky

slightly at the edge of topic...
As a schoolboy I could hear well into the 20khz range, and know this because FM radios of that time used a 19khz signal (fir a special analog process) that leaked the suppressing filter and was very noticable to me, even after suppression.
Today 15khz is my limit (beyond there's silence) and my 12khz response is at least 18dB lower than it used to be - yet I hear much more detail in sound than as a youngster.
It's more about learning and experience than physics

Regarding electro-mechanical instruments high frequency data is rather pointless.
Which guitar/stage amp has a much to offer in that part of the spectrum, let alone cabinets.
I once listened to a real good live record of a band with a prominent Rhodes part.
'That's the real thing' immediately entered my mind... until I peeked the flaming red of a Nord Stage.
Now how much memory has this thing built in ?

Last but not least it's the mechanical playing, that defines a lot of how these keyboards come out finally - the player's struggle with a crude mechanic.
Or the special response of a real waterfall keyboard.

Of course that's stating the obvious, but in this case (samples) size does not matter.
It may play a role as a means of protection, though.
A small, but great sounding set will be stolen in no time, unless the developer embeds it internally in some obfuscating software mechanism.

chris_e36

@Telefunky said:
slightly at the edge of topic...
As a schoolboy I could hear well into the 20khz range, and know this because FM radios of that time used a 19khz signal (fir a special analog process) that leaked the suppressing filter and was very noticable to me, even after suppression.
Today 15khz is my limit (beyond there's silence) and my 12khz response is at least 18dB lower than it used to be - yet I hear much more detail in sound than as a youngster.
It's more about learning and experience than physics

Regarding electro-mechanical instruments high frequency data is rather pointless.
Which guitar/stage amp has a much to offer in that part of the spectrum, let alone cabinets.
I once listened to a real good live record of a band with a prominent Rhodes part.
'That's the real thing' immediately entered my mind... until I peeked the flaming red of a Nord Stage.
Now how much memory has this thing built in ?

Last but not least it's the mechanical playing, that defines a lot of how these keyboards come out finally - the player's struggle with a crude mechanic.
Or the special response of a real waterfall keyboard.

Of course that's stating the obvious, but in this case (samples) size does not matter.
It may play a role as a means of protection, though.
A small, but great sounding set will be stolen in no time, unless the developer embeds it internally in some obfuscating software mechanism.

Makes sense. All these frequencies really don't matter to humans other than showing off who has better and higher sample rates and all.

RUST( i )K

@Sebastian said:
As a fellow developer I can tell you that everything above 1 GB is going to make people with a 16GB iPad struggle. Since all your options are much more than that, I'd recommend just going for quality. You're only going to be reaching users with 32gb or more devices anyway. And for those there's probably only a difference between a 2GB and a 7 GB option. Looks like you're going for high quality with your app, so I think higher download sizes are good.

To follow up on Sebastian, you are dealing with a more refined taste anyway.

Quality is paramount.

Let me ask you.

WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?

Telstar5

7 gig. Look toward the future. As time goes on, people will be dumping their old iPads for more powerful versions (as I did : 12.9 iPad Pro).

chris_e36

@Telstar5 said:
7 gig. Look toward the future. As time goes on, people will be dumping their old iPads for more powerful versions (as I did : 12.9 iPad Pro).

yea thats true I dumped my ipad mini 4 although it is a very capable device, and got the ipad pro 10.5 and im liking it really fast. Scored a Multi-Core score of 9258 on geekbench. Thats faster than my Macbook Pro 2012 16gb 1600MHz ram, 525Gb SSD, and 2.5 GHz i5 which scores 6000 Multi-core