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What iOS App is closest to the Doepfer Dark Time Sequencer?

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  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    @MonkeyDrummer said:
    A cool feature of midiSTEPS is Art added a feature that I requested (no idea if he did it just for me... but I'll assume he did.) is that you can set a sequence to advance a step when it gets a specified midi note. This allows some crazy sequence chaining...

    Sounds like a good candidate for a midi fx - look for a range of notes (or velocities) and allow the step pointer to adjust. I already have the ability to skip up to 7 steps and as this wraps around the sequence length can make the sequence go backwards.

    The Brownian motion loop type might also interest you - it has a 50% chance of reversing the direction of play.

    Also there is Transwarp feature - which allows you to skip notes but keep the same time period to play all notes - this was a feature of the David Vorhaus MANIAC sequencer. It does this by slowing down steps to fill the time taken by the skipped ones.

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer
    edited February 2017

    just finished adding legato mode (midiSequencer NoteTime) this allows the length of the steps to be determined by the gate length (as a fraction of the song tempo) and has no gaps in the steps.

    Also an example of a flatter looking GUI

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

  • Artefact2001Artefact2001

    @midiSequencer if you need any feedback or advice on the new UI I'd be happy to help (I design high-end websites and user interfaces for a living)

  • WillWill

    @MonkeyDrummer said:
    A cool feature of midiSTEPS is Art added a feature that I requested (no idea if he did it just for me... but I'll assume he did.) is that you can set a sequence to advance a step when it gets a specified midi note. This allows some crazy sequence chaining...

    I was a requester as well. I love this feature so much. It fits in the sh-101 mold of the app in that it works like the hardware's TRIG in.

  • WillWill

    I actually played with my pal's Dark Time a bit today. It's very fun. I could see a future version of midiSequencer/Quantum with an alternate UI mode that exposed the start/stop/skip/mute controls on the main screen to make them quicker to monkey with.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @syrupcore said:
    I actually played with my pal's Dark Time a bit today. It's very fun. I could see a future version of midiSequencer/Quantum with an alternate UI mode that exposed the start/stop/skip/mute controls on the main screen to make them quicker to monkey with.

    great idea

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    it's on the cards - @syrupcore is helping me with some new layouts, so this sort of 'overlay' (another would be the intellijel metropolis with it's pulse count & gate mode ) would be easy to create.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @syrupcore said:
    midiSequencer, easily. The in-progress rack sequencer is even more so like it (and way way beyond). In the new app you can have up to 6 sequences of up to 64 steps. Additionally, each sequence can have up to 4 separate sections from the same 64 steps that you can toggle on or off independently (so in practice it's actually 24 sequences). Each of those sections can have their own clock division, transposition... It's mind boggling.

    Though I think you could do quite a lot of that video directly in iMS20. :)

    But it is so hardish for the technically little of brains....

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    @midiSequencer any idea what the launch price for quantum will be ? Just want to make sure I have the funds ready to go :) also. Are all the sliders midi mappable ?

  • WillWill
    edited March 2017

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @syrupcore said:
    midiSequencer, easily. The in-progress rack sequencer is even more so like it (and way way beyond). In the new app you can have up to 6 sequences of up to 64 steps. Additionally, each sequence can have up to 4 separate sections from the same 64 steps that you can toggle on or off independently (so in practice it's actually 24 sequences). Each of those sections can have their own clock division, transposition... It's mind boggling.

    Though I think you could do quite a lot of that video directly in iMS20. :)

    But it is so hardish for the technically little of brains....

    If you're referring to my confusing description of Quantum (new name for the rack sequencer), I understand. That's probably mostly my bad. I'll try again. It can be complex but really, it's simple.

    First, ignore all the other crap and just imagine the current version of midiSequencer with only these changes:

    1. Sequence can have up to 64 steps instead of the current 16.
    2. That sequence's steps can optionally be used as the source material for up to four additional sequences. Another way to look at it: four different independent play heads on that same sequence of steps.

    If the current version of mS is a little overwhelming, ignore it all and just think of the 16 steps as notes.

    Each of the four play heads (or sub-sequences) can be any length, speed, transposition, etc BUT they all come from the same pool of steps. Imagine a 16 note melody. That's hard for me actually but go for it. It might look like this:

    • Playhead A: Plays all 16 steps, one after another
    • Playhead B: Plays steps 3-9 only, reversed
    • Playhead C: Plays steps 10-16, at half speed and an octave down
    • Playhead D: Plays steps 1-8 at double speed, an octave and a 5th up.

    Or, maybe think "Fugue Machine" with per playhead loop points? That's where the Fugue Machine comparison ends though. From there, it totally erupts! Couple of things to consider:

    With 64 steps, if you're used to or can work with ≤16 step sequences, you could set up the playheads/subsequences like this:

    • Playhead A: Plays steps 1-16
    • Playhead B: Plays steps 17-32
    • Playhead C: Plays steps 33-48
    • Playhead D: Plays steps 49-64



    Which means your single 64 step sequence is really four completely discreet sequences, not pulling from the same pool at all. Or some can overlap, while others are discreet sections.

    And of course, each of those subsequences can have all sorts of discreet little sequencing tricks done to them like play direction, transposition, different start stop points, as well as per step muting/skipping, volume adjustment, different CCs, velocity, step fx, midi fx...

    The subsequences can relate to each other in different ways as well. For instance you can set the order in which they play or have them all play at the same time or... Follow actions are being added soon. Don't know yet what that will entail but considering how much you can do without them. Boom.

    Now, multiply all of the above times six and I'm seriously only scratching the surface.

  • anicktanickt

    I take it that 4th playhead is only for minor keys? ;)

    This looks awesome!

  • WillWill
    edited March 2017

    Ha! Yes. They're labeled subsequence A, B, C and OMG

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