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Recomend microphone for ipad field recording. . . .

. . . . With option for stereo and mono modes? Any recomendations?
Thank you :)

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  • My recommendation would be to buy a dedicated field recorder. Once you've got a decent adapter and mike, the iPad route is going to cost you more, be more fiddly and not as good.

    I bought a Tascam field recorder on the advice of a friend who's a sound recordist. It's $80, has a great interface, does everything you need (and more TBH) and really great sound quality for the price. And if you want to plug external mikes into it, you can.

    There's a slightly more expensive model that has a web server for transferring files built into it. If that's a thing you want.

  • I have a Sony PCM-M10 and a Tascam DR-22. I like both. The Tascam DR-22 is newer. It's easy to use. Does not have XLR inputs if you need that. You can control it wirelessly via remote app. You can also transfer your recording off of it via wifi. It works well, but the mic is pretty sensitive. I pretty much keep a small deadcat wind screen on it all the time.

    https://www.amazon.com/Tascam-DR-22WL-Portable-Handheld-Recorder/dp/B00MIXFBKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488999373&sr=8-1&keywords=dr-22

  • I have a Shure MV88. It's pretty nice. Does stereo and mono.

  • I have a Zoom iQ6 and the quality is great.

    I will say that I agree with @cian though. Get an actual field recorder. I have a Zoom H4n Pro and it is a beast. It has the same preamps that are in the H5 and H6 so super low noise for really quiet recordings. I got it on sale the end of last year. I have used it greatly. The only thing I will say though is you will need to use a computer or some other type of device to get the audio from the zoom to your iPad.

    That being said, if you are field recording, then you should be focusing on getting the sounds in the field and worrying about post production elsewhere. That was a hurtle I had to get over in my mind. Although I might want to fiddle with recorded sounds on the fly, which is when I use the Zoom iQ6. Record it directly into Audioshare and go from there.

    I would say get one of each. hehe

  • Im using the Zoom U44 with the extra stereo microphone capsule for field recording. With Twisted Wave it works great

  • @Gaia.Tree said:
    Im using the Zoom U44 with the extra stereo microphone capsule for field recording. With Twisted Wave it works great

    Oh wow! I didn't know you could put a mic capsule on those. That's ideal, ie. you can either use it on the device for quick stuff, or it has a cable you can get the mic off the unit. I'd assumed those U-44 units were strictly interfaces for the recorder and you only had the option of xlr input. I even checked for a capsule option when those came out, but I ONLY checked the U-22 which won't take an external mic capsule, but the the U-44 does. Decent price too!

    Would be nice to have all of those modules.

    What is the primary difference between a U44 with the stereo module, and the more expensive H6 unit?

    Off to add to my wish list. :)

  • H6 is only a little bit more than the U44 + capsule, but much bulkier in size with the case and all.. i almost went with the h6 but went with my current setup for portability

  • @Gaia.Tree said:
    H6 is only a little bit more than the U44 + capsule, but much bulkier in size with the case and all.. i almost went with the h6 but went with my current setup for portability

    Yeah, it's a good way to go... especially if you don't necessarily want to carry 3 or 4 different mics with you. Or, if you don't even need an on-board mic but just need the xlr interface. I'm covered at the moment, but this module route is what I'll try the next time I get the itch for new gear. :)

  • I was thinking about going the other way, from handheld recorder to plug in stereo mic for ios. The issue with the handheld recorder was a librarian's problem: you have all of the files collecting on your memory card, with gibberish names, and have to play through them all to find something. It was convoluted to delete files as well (zoom h2n, other recorders may be better), so there would be lots of files of false starts as well.

    Recording on ios would mean being able to name the files when they are recorded, trim them, organize them in folders, use them in ios projects immediately, and email/dropbox them to collaborators easily.

  • @Processaurus said:
    I was thinking about going the other way, from handheld recorder to plug in stereo mic for ios. The issue with the handheld recorder was a librarian's problem: you have all of the files collecting on your memory card, with gibberish names, and have to play through them all to find something. It was convoluted to delete files as well (zoom h2n, other recorders may be better), so there would be lots of files of false starts as well.

    Recording on ios would mean being able to name the files when they are recorded, trim them, organize them in folders, use them in ios projects immediately, and email/dropbox them to collaborators easily.

    This is true and something I've battled. But this is where the beauty of on board wifi and iOS app with the DR-22/44WL comes in.

    I have the DR-22W. I've got a 64GB microSD card in it. I can record, then stream the recordings to my iPad quickly to check the recording. I can easily rename them on the spot via the iPad and not have to fiddle with the little LCD screen. If the recording isn't good, I can delete it right off the DR-22 via the app without even transferring it. If I want to use the file immediately, I can quickly transfer the file to the iPad, then share/import into Audioshare, any other audio app, or several cloud services. All from the app and all wirelessly via onboard wifi. No need to clutter up my iPad storage with a bunch of files. I just went through about 30 files, previewed them, skipped through longer ones to jog my memory as to what they were, rename them, or delete them if they were test recordings. Took me about 25mins total.

    And, via wifi I can use their iOS app to change my recording settings, check levels, record, then transfer... all wirelessly.

    My DR-22WL only has the onboard stereo mics, and I can also use an external lav or mic that can be plugin powered via 3.5mm mic input. No XLR though. I haven't checked what other field recorders have wifi now, but it's more convenient and useful than I thought it'd be.

  • I use a Rode iXY along with the Rode recorder app with my iPad and iPhone. Doesn't have mono mode, but that's easy enough to deal with after the fact. The only downside is that since iOS10, you have to record at 48khz, it doesn't support 44.1. Again, has never been an issue for me.

    I use this far more than when I had a dedicated portable recorder (Edirol). If nothing else I find the handling noise is less of an issue when using the iPhone, and it's nice having the audio already on my device if I want to use it in another app.

  • As a field recorder i use a Sony Pcm-d100.
    For the ipad i use Sonic Port VX and can recommend it.

  • @dreamrobe the sonic port looks really great.

    im stuck between Rode or the line 6 at the moment.

  • got the sonic port, looks like it ticks all the boxes for me :)

    thanks for all the help with this everyone :)

  • I've wanted to get into found sounds for years. I'm about to trade some stuff into GC to finally make it happen. I have questions about the handheld devices' mic sensitivity in general. I work at a machine shop and setup/run big vertical milling centers, so naturally we're talking high-speed tools and SPLs. So would I be wrong in assuming that a worst case scenario would be clipping a recording? Or is there a risk of actually damaging my mic? Some sounds have sharp attacks. The DR-22 peaks my interest.

  • @skiphunt. I was just watching a review video of the Tascam DR-22WL. In addition to using the transport and transferring files via wifi with the ios app, It sounds like the guy said that the firmware can be updated in the same manner. Can you verify? I don't own a computer so that'd be clutch.

  • edited June 2017

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    @skiphunt. I was just watching a review video of the Tascam DR-22WL. In addition to using the transport and transferring files via wifi with the ios app, It sounds like the guy said that the firmware can be updated in the same manner. Can you verify? I don't own a computer so that'd be clutch.

    There were a couple firmware updates within weeks of each other. The first update I tried to update firmware using only the app, but couldn't get it to work so I did it via desktop.

    However, with the second and most recent firmware update, I was able to do the update using iOS alone. It's possible I didn't do something right on the first attempt. I didn't mess with it long before just resorted to using the desktop.

    But yes, I can confirm that I've updated the firmware on the DR22WL using only iOS.

  • @skiphunt said:

    And, via wifi I can use their iOS app to change my recording settings, check levels, record, then transfer... all wirelessly.

    Huh! Often the best mic placement is away from where you are hanging out. A lot of time it sounds good getting a mic up high, like at a concert, because you don't have individual conversations being loud in the mic, and it can sound better because the reflections off the floor are less boxy sounding. But, if you have the recorder up on a stand, to get a level you would have had to record a test, get it down, listen to it, adjust the levels, put it back up, try again, you can miss out on something.

    Or, I like recording shows by recording from the mixing board, and having the recorder at the front of the stage, to get the sound coming off the stage, apart from the PA. That means the recorder is way at the front of the room, and kind of on stage, close to the performers, so mostly inaccessible. That feature of remote access sounds great to set levels, record, transfer a file to your phone and preview it on headphones, to see how the mix sounds without having to go get the recorder.

  • @Processaurus said:

    @skiphunt said:

    And, via wifi I can use their iOS app to change my recording settings, check levels, record, then transfer... all wirelessly.

    Huh! Often the best mic placement is away from where you are hanging out. A lot of time it sounds good getting a mic up high, like at a concert, because you don't have individual conversations being loud in the mic, and it can sound better because the reflections off the floor are less boxy sounding. But, if you have the recorder up on a stand, to get a level you would have had to record a test, get it down, listen to it, adjust the levels, put it back up, try again, you can miss out on something.

    Or, I like recording shows by recording from the mixing board, and having the recorder at the front of the stage, to get the sound coming off the stage, apart from the PA. That means the recorder is way at the front of the room, and kind of on stage, close to the performers, so mostly inaccessible. That feature of remote access sounds great to set levels, record, transfer a file to your phone and preview it on headphones, to see how the mix sounds without having to go get the recorder.

    >

    Yes. It's actually kind of cool to be able to do this. I've only tested it to make sure it works remotely. I've yet to take advantage of this in a live recording situation. All I've used it for so far is handheld stuff.

    The "EZ" recording setting usually gets levels a bit hot, but not too bad, and rarely clips. For quick stuff it's good. I mostly just set it manually though.

    The wireless stuff seems to work fairly well. Sometimes I have to connect, reconnect, a couple times. So, not perfect.

    There are also some dubbing features built-into the recorder, targeted at musicians... but I haven't played with those features at all.

    The only real complaint I have is that it's easy to knock the main selector dial off setting. Have to watch that. The manual recording level dial is more protected from accidental bumps.

    It'd be nice if it had just one XLR port with phantom power... but that would likely add to the overall size too.

    For the money, it's a pretty nice little unit with some cool/useful features. The wireless stuff is nice, and the recording quality is good.

  • edited June 2017

    @skiphunt
    Which accessories for the dr-22 are useful? And what's a Lav? I do plan on recording outside as well, and i see different screens types.

  • A "Lav" is lavelier (small lapel mic)

    Number one accessory you need with this is a good windscreen. I tried foam first and it was ok, but deadcat MUCH better. Mine is Windtech. The mica on this are very sensitive. Nearly unusable without a windscreen. I leave mine on all the time.

  • edited December 2017

    Greetings @skiphunt . I finally own my first handheld, the Dr-22wl :) Have had it a few days. I took the time to familiarize myself with the device, updated the firmware, and played with the app.

    Two questions:
    1. Have you upgraded to ios11 yet? If so, have you used the tascam recorder app since switching?

    1. No biggie, but I'm unable to switch recording modes from the app. Don't know if I'm overlooking something, or if it's simply not possible.
  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Greetings @skiphunt . I finally own my first handheld, the Dr-22wl :) Have had it a few days. I took the time to familiarize myself with the device, updated the firmware, and played with the app.

    Two questions:
    1. Have you upgraded to ios11 yet? If so, have you used the tascam recorder app since switching?

    1. No biggie, but I'm unable to switch recording modes from the app. Don't know if I'm overlooking something, or if it's simply not possible.

    Congrats! I love mine. :)

    Yes, running 11.2 and works fine.

  • Microphone for iPad? Apple's on-board microphone is terrible which means you need to buy an external microphone. And, the first external microphone I would recommend purchasing is something like this on Amazon . It has a 3 condenser mic that can be positioned in different ways depending on what you're doing with it - by itself, mounted onto of your iPad, or mounted to any of these popular mounts of which there are plenty on Amazon as well! The price point is very affordable at $26.99 USD. There are higher priced models available if this one does not suit your needs. And finally, pairing the best with the best by pairing this mic with Procreate iClarity app to cover all sound-related

  • edited November 2021

    There's these microphones for "binaural" stereo recording that you can wear in your ears, so you really get a POV audio recording: https://www.sonicpresence.com/

    Seen them on a Ben Jordan video on christmas giftts for musicians ;)

    @Jennie75 your link doesnt seem to work for me

  • dvidvi
    edited November 2021

    @Jennie75 said:

    @dobbs here's the link that was posted, but it doesn’t seem right, haha.
    https://technonguide.com/step-by-step-instructions-to-settle-down-quickbooks-error-15270/

    I’m also interested in this. Just returned a Zoom iQ7 which gave me improved but not game-changing quality when recording with my iphone, at the expense of all sorts of noises and clicks introduced (even when in airplane mode). Would not recommend.

    I think I’ll go with the H1 which costs about the same as the iQ7 and works both as a dedicated recorder and external mic, but if

  • that's the link but it goes to a troubleshooting website for a finances software?

  • @dvi said:

    @Jennie75 said:

    @dobbs here's the link that was posted, but it doesn’t seem right, haha.
    https://technonguide.com/step-by-step-instructions-to-settle-down-quickbooks-error-15270/

    I’m also interested in this. Just returned a Zoom iQ7 which gave me improved but not game-changing quality when recording with my iphone, at the expense of all sorts of noises and clicks introduced (even when in airplane mode). Would not recommend.

    I think I’ll go with the H1 which costs about the same as the iQ7 and works both as a dedicated recorder and external mic, but if

    This is what you want IMO, it's awesome for field recording:

    https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-AMBEO-Smart-Headset-Ear-Black/dp/B08F72P94X/ref=sr_1_1

    https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-AMBEO-Smart-Headset-Video/dp/B073TTRB9F/ref=sr_1_2

    This is a woodpecker recorded in my local park with the above:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/kf8tclszjcpejb7/Woodpecker 14-04-20.wav?dl=0

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