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What the devil - Orsilus, a new iDAW with AB, AU and Room Sound Visualizer
The visual mix room thingie (see vid on App Store, link below) looks verrah nice. No word on AU, etc., but it is Audiobus compatible.
EDIT: AU support listed on feature list, see link in thread below ...
Dev website:
From the site (app description is fairly useless, as far as iOS music apps go - doesn't even mention AB compatibility, but @Sebastian did in a tweet a little bit ago):
COLLABORATION
Korner Stone is the new home of collaboration
Setup, create and modify your user profile
Add friends, bandmates and remote collaborators to your friends list
Share presets, audio files, bounces and even your entire project
Instant messaging based conversation system
Secure HTTPs file tranfer via Dropbox
HD AUDIO ENGINE
Support for iOS Class Compliant Audio interfaces
64-Bit floating point mix engine for practically limitless head room and precision.
Upto 48 Audio Channels *
Upto 16 Aux Channels *
Master channel with in-built master compressor.
User defeatable engine saturation
Per channel expandable effects rack.
VISUAL MIXER
Unique visual mix representation
Representation of your mix with dragable instrument icons
Control instrument volume with vertical axis
Control instrument pan with horizontal axis
Instrument frquency and volume to on screen colour feedback
Channel volume / frequency to colour.(Let's you know when two instruments have a simlar spectral aura)
I don't know what Korner Stone is, and there are more features listed at the site, but from the screen shots on the App Store, I'd say we have a new iDAW on the market for $20 US:
Orsilus by Jamaine Obeng
https://appsto.re/us/6YDnfb.i
Comments
Looks like an overdesigned, underpowered GarageBand.
Plus they can't be bothered to pay for a copy editor:
A SONG MAKING APP WITH COLLABORATION AT IT'S HEART.
And we copy editors reassembel that.
Here's a demo vid from the Tube of You:
Could be you're right about a repolished Garageband type app, but if I limited my app purchases to only those apps that used proper grammar, I'd have about 2 or 300 extra dollars in my bank account ...
Appears to also support Audio Units. Full feature list is here:
http://www.orsilus.com/features_list/03/9/
I was a beta tester on this one. The patterning-like drum machine is not for me. The rest is fine. The dev is super responsive. The Metronome is available as an fx right now. But will be updated. It's just 4/4 right now, but this is gonna change to. It does support au already. And has aux sends to.
Interesting. Can you see it becoming your iOS DAW of choice...?
Yeah, the more I read the feature list, now that I found it, the more impressive the spec. The concentric sequencer is definitely, at best, an homage to Patterning, that's for sure.
I do wish the room visualizer allowed for front to back as well as volume and pan (perhaps a reverb algorithm to simulate depth/distance?) Looked all over for an email to send feature requests to the Dev, and invite him over here, but nada. Can you PM his email, possibly?
Also, how would you rate it in the iOS DAW world? The Aux sends and AU support suggest it's further up the food chain than Garageband, at least in signal-routing. Interesting that it allows one to export stems, almost as if the dev is acknowledging "in case you want to polish this up elsewhere."
This looks awesome.
But, would have been instabuy awesome if Universal.
Tired of the iPad exclusive apps.
Thats just me.
I am sure I will end up buying it.
I'm on the fence. On the one hand, it has less features than other apps. On the other hand, that visual mixer is cool. Plus, there's the "collaboration" part that caught my attention. What to do.
Yeah - it looks like the baked in Dropbox support and online interaction with other Orsilus users could be just what me and @JohnnyGoodyear need to finally collab on that magnum opus we each keep forgetting to ask the other about
Perhaps that's the dev's angle? In a mobile world, the go to DAW for online music collaboration? That would fit in with the already available stem export ... get a rough mix from all the collaborators and then pop it over to Auria for final mix/master. Hmm ....
Well, I can say the $20 I paid for LayR is MORE THAN WORTH it and I will get way more use out of.
Synth is a monster.
I already have every other DAW and barely use them.
"I hear there's this fella that'll pay you five dollars to sing into a can!"
Not really, I'm still a rookie, and loose my breath thinking of aux sends and such. And I have cubasis, auria, GB and beatmaker. Don't really need another.
The audio editing needs some work. But it could be a great app. Very different from the other daws on iOS.
Looked all over for an email to send feature requests to the Dev, and invite him over here, but nada. Can you PM his email, possibly?
I contacted him via the Facebook page.
Well, depends on needs.
I've asked him to join in here for the best feedback in the world. Let's hope he will jump on board soon.
No MIDI?
@TozBourne Nope. Not yet, at any rate. I finally tracked down the dev via Twitter and tossed a few suggestions his way. MIDI was one ☝️
What are the hardware(iPad) requirements for best functioning since it's 64 bit floating?
I'm game, but I'd always imagined we would just drive the Five, ukelele's on board, hood down, stopping at diners along the way to sample the local flavors, end up in Portland and bother the Professor....
I'm down, @JohnnyGoodyear
"Then they took off east, I think that's where they went ..."
Runs on iPad Air and newer, iOS 10+, according to their "Features" page.
I like this for the room visualizer alone... not sure if I like just that component enough to spend $20 though.
It did inspire me to check how much I can do for spatial stuff in Logic Pro X. I knew there was some stuff in there but wasn't aware you can switch the channel strip to "surround" if you have the hardware to monitor it. Or, if you don't have the surround monitoring hardware, you can change the panning to do "binaural panning" and also change that binaural panning to either move sounds on "planar" space, or a "spherical" space. Haven't tried it yet, but it looks very interesting.
The visualizer in Orsilus is the closest of seen to this on iOS to date. Anyone seen anything else similar to this for iOS?
Ok good to know, looks quite interesting definitely worth seeing how its evolves
I'm assuming you are meaning iPad Air 2?
Thanks
Actually, I think they're even letting those of us with crusty old Air 1s in on the action. The site just says Air, so I presume Orsilus isn't putting on airs. DOH!
Thanks!
No problem - and you appear to be in the club. From the features page:
"Recommended: iPad Air/A7 +"
Have A7, will Orsil. Us. Maybe
Yay!! I'm a member of the club......maybe
@Jakersjaw is the AU support for AU Instruments and AU Effects?
Yeah, I think the "visualizer" is just a graphical representation of two axes: volume and pan. In fact, I think they got the Y axis backwards: to look at it in a room, the instrument icon closer to you would be louder, but from that demo, it seems the opposite.
Just heard from Jamaine the developer - he should be showing up here soon. Core MIDI input, global metronome, and AU instrument support are all on his roadmap, and he says he's very open to user feedback/suggestions.
I'm curious if the collaboration angle might be the selling point ... if everyone involved in a project can fire up the latest version and lay down their bit, then save - if updates between collaborators trigger auto notifications, it could really make collaboration on iOS shine. Orsilus already provides for stem export if you later want to take it either to Auria/Cubasis or even the desktop for spit and polish.
Currently, it's just two axes - X = panning, Y = volume. Hold on to that thought, though – the dev seems open to suggestions for adding a 3rd dimension to the room visualizer