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Apple Hardware Updates Tomorrow? (Tuesday)

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  • @richardyot said:

    @pichi said:
    The A9 looks to be a nice speed bump over the 8X. This should make a good upgrade from the mini 2 for me.

    It's not that clear-cut, that graph shows single-core performance, but the A8X is a triple core and the A9 a dual core, so in a multi-tasking environment, say when you are using multiple apps together, the older chip might well be faster.

    Most first-hand reports seem to state that performance differences between the Air 2 and Pro are relatively small.

    Yeah that's why I think it's just a repositioning of older tech for margin reasons. Fair enough, but nothing exciting or even of much interest unless you have a much older iPad. Of more interest is that the size has grown, yet still showing 10 hours battery. So one could presume from this, that either the battery tech is older, or that the design of the components (chip, screen etc) takes more juice than that of the Air2. Could also be that they never really test the spec out much and just put 10 hours on most iPads lol

  • edited March 2017

    Is there any DAW on iOS or synth which supports proper multi core support?
    Otherwise single core performence is still much more important if you want to run some newer synths.
    Of course if you run several AU´s or more different apps together you might need more cores.
    The whole iOS architecture about multi threading and so is very strange to me.
    I also remember a post from the NanoStudio developer where he said that the newer devices wasn´t that much better because they doesn´t allowed as much % from the core as older versions.
    It is years ago and that might changed (or i misunderstood it just because of my lack in proper english).
    So is it possible for a SINGLE app to spread the load across cores (like in the desktop world)?
    Or will a single app always run on one core so that the single performence might be much more important in iOS?
    And can it really use (nearly) 100% of the cpu. Or will it crackle at 50% usage because of iOS rules.
    I also remember here that NanoStudio has/had an "maximize audio CPU" as workaround to get at least up to 70% or so.
    Sorry, i´m a bit off topic. Lol, i should reduce my coffee.
    At the end i just say that the real world performence can be totally different depending of your set-up, even when benchmarks or Apple says something else!

  • Disappointing no new pro, but definitely good if you want a new basic Air2 class ipad and I'd rather a thicker ipad with more battery than the thinnest possible.

  • @Cib I would imagine multi-core performance really only benefits multi-app workflows, but since we are often using multiple apps together it is actually relevant for us, as opposed to the 90% of people who are running games.

    If you use AudioBus, AUM, IAA, or AU then multi-core performance probably matters.

  • @richardyot said:
    @Cib I would imagine multi-core performance really only benefits multi-app workflows, but since we are often using multiple apps together it is actually relevant for us, as opposed to the 90% of people who are running games.

    If you use AudioBus, AUM, IAA, or AU then multi-core performance probably matters.

    That´s true. But also if just one of the core is over you get these crackles and drop outs.
    As usual it has pro and contra.
    I mean the whole thing is more a marketing thing to me anyway. So that they can say each year they are faster and bla bla bla.
    First 3-core, then dual core, then something like little big thingie with 2 main cores and 2 whatever.
    It´s a bit confusing. But an important part for me since i really have to use a new device with different set-ups to really can say what it can handle.
    Any videos about those tests recommended?
    F.e. if i compare the theoretical benchmarks from my current iPhone and the newest iPads against my 4 years old MacBook pro, they shouldn´t be too far away with handling similar load of tools (not talking about RAM).
    But in real life test i could handle so much more with my Macbook that these theoretical benchmarks sounding a bit of fantasy for me. Which wasn´t maybe a so big surprise but let me see it all with a grain of salt.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @richardyot said:

    @pichi said:
    The A9 looks to be a nice speed bump over the 8X. This should make a good upgrade from the mini 2 for me.

    It's not that clear-cut, that graph shows single-core performance, but the A8X is a triple core and the A9 a dual core, so in a multi-tasking environment, say when you are using multiple apps together, the older chip might well be faster.

    Most first-hand reports seem to state that performance differences between the Air 2 and Pro are relatively small.

    Yeah that's why I think it's just a repositioning of older tech for margin reasons. Fair enough, but nothing exciting or even of much interest unless you have a much older iPad. Of more interest is that the size has grown, yet still showing 10 hours battery. So one could presume from this, that either the battery tech is older, or that the design of the components (chip, screen etc) takes more juice than that of the Air2. Could also be that they never really test the spec out much and just put 10 hours on most iPads lol

    It could be that they've decided to go back to an actual 'truth' strategy, before people discover they'd been Volkswagening the specs on the Air 2.

  • I'm interested to see if the new iPad has the iPad Air 2's 2Gb of RAM or just 1Gb of RAM. We might not know until they make it into the wild on Friday.

  • Predictions:

    Air 2 goes away.

    Upcoming "Pros" are 10 and 12.

    New 9 inchr becomes the "Regular" iPad

    Assumption: Problems with Pro manufacturing nerfed a big announcement, but they had to get these other products out now. Original plan was to make the Airs go away (just like laptop).

  • @u0421793 said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @richardyot said:

    @pichi said:
    The A9 looks to be a nice speed bump over the 8X. This should make a good upgrade from the mini 2 for me.

    It's not that clear-cut, that graph shows single-core performance, but the A8X is a triple core and the A9 a dual core, so in a multi-tasking environment, say when you are using multiple apps together, the older chip might well be faster.

    Most first-hand reports seem to state that performance differences between the Air 2 and Pro are relatively small.

    Yeah that's why I think it's just a repositioning of older tech for margin reasons. Fair enough, but nothing exciting or even of much interest unless you have a much older iPad. Of more interest is that the size has grown, yet still showing 10 hours battery. So one could presume from this, that either the battery tech is older, or that the design of the components (chip, screen etc) takes more juice than that of the Air2. Could also be that they never really test the spec out much and just put 10 hours on most iPads lol

    It could be that they've decided to go back to an actual 'truth' strategy, before people discover they'd been Volkswagening the specs on the Air 2.

    Does Lada make Pads?

  • @johnfromberkeley said:
    Predictions:
    Air 2 goes away.

    New 9 inchr becomes the "Regular" iPad

    Done before your predictions. Check here: http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/

  • edited March 2017

    Looking forward to real benchmarks

  • @richardyot said:
    Awesome news, the Air 2 lives on! One of the best tech purchases I've ever made.

    Amen to that

  • @Arpseechord said:

    Does Lada make Pads?

    I heard that all android tablets are made by lada ;)

  • iPad mini 2 is not longer available. iPad mini 4 only available in 128GB. Will Apple dump the mini?

  • @Hmtx said:
    Intersting that the iPad is thicker, from 6.1mm back to 7.5mm same as Air 1. Hopefully that means it has a bigger battery?

    I'm sure they're not going to boast about it.

  • @supadom i posted on the other thread. It is a 15% increased battery!

  • Hmmm... my lack of available storage is effecting app purchases lately, i.e. If they're too large, it's a dealbreaker. I was holding off to upgrade to new iPad pro to also get more storage. This new one seems like more of a lateral move just for more space.

    Come to think of it, deterrents to more app purchases might be a good thing. ;)

  • @ToMess said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    Does Lada make Pads?

    I heard that all android tablets are made by lada ;)

    A win win for us all ;)

  • @Hmtx said:
    @supadom i posted on the other thread. It is a 15% increased battery!

    Yes, but are they going to boast about the increased thickness? Thin like a pencil? Likely not :)

  • Hah. True

  • @MonzoPro said:
    Perhaps they're going to fix the Air 2 screen rotation bug?

    And make an event around it?

    Also, wasn't Ipad 1 gen called Ipad? I should have kept it to resale on eBay at triple the price to an unsuspecting non-power user.

  • edited March 2017

    @mannix said:
    iPad mini 2 is not longer available. iPad mini 4 only available in 128GB. Will Apple dump the mini?

    As an owner of an Air 1 and Mini 2 who uses the Mini much more than the Air, I would assume that the markets for each size are different enough that they'll keep the smaller size.

    I know it's anecdotal, but what if I'm a really important anecdote? ;-)

  • @supadom said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Perhaps they're going to fix the Air 2 screen rotation bug?

    And make an event around it?

    Considering how long it's taking them to sort, I'd say a fix warrants some form of celebration.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @supadom said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Perhaps they're going to fix the Air 2 screen rotation bug?

    And make an event around it?

    Considering how long it's taking them to sort, I'd say a fix warrants some form of celebration.

    Rotation bug vs Current global political situation.

    Mmmmmmm

  • @bigcatrik said:

    @mannix said:
    iPad mini 2 is not longer available. iPad mini 4 only available in 128GB. Will Apple dump the mini?

    As an owner of an Air 1 and Mini 2 who uses the Mini much more than the Air, I would assume that the markets for each size are different enough that they'll keep the smaller size.

    I know it's anecdotal, but what if I'm a really important anecdote? ;-)

    Somehow I got the feeling Apple will dump the Mini because it eats the iPhone + models. The mini seems popular with kids as a gaming tablet though.

  • @supadom said:

    Rotation bug vs Current global political situation.

    Whats this air2 rotation bug thing i keep hearing about? I recently updated my air 2 to newest os, and havent noticed any bugs in rotation

  • @mannix said:

    @bigcatrik said:

    @mannix said:
    iPad mini 2 is not longer available. iPad mini 4 only available in 128GB. Will Apple dump the mini?

    As an owner of an Air 1 and Mini 2 who uses the Mini much more than the Air, I would assume that the markets for each size are different enough that they'll keep the smaller size.

    I know it's anecdotal, but what if I'm a really important anecdote? ;-)

    Somehow I got the feeling Apple will dump the Mini because it eats the iPhone + models. The mini seems popular with kids as a gaming tablet though.

    I keep expecting the iPod Touch to disappear for the same reason.

  • @supadom said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @supadom said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Perhaps they're going to fix the Air 2 screen rotation bug?

    And make an event around it?

    Considering how long it's taking them to sort, I'd say a fix warrants some form of celebration.

    Rotation bug vs Current global political situation.

    Mmmmmmm

  • @supadom said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @supadom said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Perhaps they're going to fix the Air 2 screen rotation bug?

    And make an event around it?

    Considering how long it's taking them to sort, I'd say a fix warrants some form of celebration.

    Rotation bug vs Current global political situation.

    Mmmmmmm

    I'm going to be the bigger guy and ignore this obvious provocation, and keep the thread nice and friendly.

    Move along please, nothing to see here...

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @supadom said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @supadom said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Perhaps they're going to fix the Air 2 screen rotation bug?

    And make an event around it?

    Considering how long it's taking them to sort, I'd say a fix warrants some form of celebration.

    Rotation bug vs Current global political situation.

    Mmmmmmm

    I'm going to be the bigger guy and ignore this obvious provocation, and keep the thread nice and friendly.

    Move along please, nothing to see here...

    Yes, it a right pain in the backside, you'd think something so fundamental should have been sorted out by now. For sure, it palls into insignificance compared to many (real world) things, but that applies to a lot of things discussed here too.

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