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Rosario - new Gadget - thoughts ?
As there's so much v3 Gadget talk, I thought I'd separate this thread to refer to Rosario.
I've only had a brief play with it, but I thought it wasn't too bad at all.
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The tones are pretty decent, though I haven't had more than twenty minutes' time with it. What I'd love is the ability to use it with BIAS, ToneStack, etc. (I know others have echoed the same.)
The one thing I'd like most is to be able to use an external noise gate, as the higher-gain amps are (understandably) noisy. The built-in noise reduction "effect" helps, but it's not enough. Being able to drop it in Auria Pro and use FabFilter Pro-G would be ideal.
My electric guitar has been in storage for 6 months now, hoping to get it back next week and I can't wait to take Rosario for a spin...
I really like it. I posted this on the other thread but is relevant. Got some pretty nice cleans with no real fuss. I know that once i start really dialing in the controls i am going to be pretty happy. Plus you can turn off amp or cabinet and run synths through new fx. https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ok9303c5mq7mne/Audio!.wav?dl=0
I like it. I always though Gadget needed more effects and this definitely works for me. Opens up a lot of possibilities.
IMHO Bias, Tonestack and Amplitube much better and versalite than Rosario. As well as I unerstand, Rosario is not for guitar playing. It looks like another [very useful] feature that works well within Gadget, but I'm not sure it could replace traditional ampsim.
I'm enjoying it. I may actually get some use out of owning Gadget with these new audio gadgets
EDIT: Looks like you figured out the issue.
Tee hee
So, not hugely worse than Bias / ToneStack etc. but with the all important Gadget integration (?)
No where as good as jam up pro for guitar but decent enough for some Gadget noodling.
Just did some research to find out why Korg selected Rosario for the Gadget name. It's an interesting history, the first band to create what was to later become Argentine Rock (Rock Nacional) was Los Gatos who grew up in Rosario and paved the way for others. This was the first non-English based rock and roll which also ended up playing a major role in the Argentine revolution. Rosario seems fitting for a Gadget that allows you to bring your own sounds into Gadget and make them your own rather than manipulating (covering) sounds inside Gadget.
Rosario sounds better than I thought it would when I first saw it. My honest first thought was "oh great this is going to be about as useful as GarageBand's amps". I was quite surprised that there were some usable sounds there.
The real shame though is no Audiobus or IAA input to Zurich! The choice for guitarists is use Rosario or resort to import so you can use better amp sims. Thankfully they at least did AudioShare to make that second option as easy as possible. Still disappointing that you have to.
It's cool that you're actually recording dry signal into Rosario. That means you could always get close enough to the tone you want while composing, then export dry for re-amping elsewhere, and then bring it back in through Zurich if you like.
I dunno that I'd pay much for any of the new gadgets as they are now, but for free? Very thankful for them!
Port Stanley didn't scan as well I guess.
No question Rosario is a top quality amp sim effect, reminds me of my first Roland multitrack. Haven't used other iOS amp effects but this one sounds as good as I would expect from hardware. The major sticking point for me with Gadget over other apps is the stacking of high quality effects like reverb, delay, filters and distortion etc.
The UI is fun too but I have issues with how often crucial features are sort of tucked away at the side of the screen. Maybe I need an iPad Pro.
I think it's only a matter of time before we get audio routing. It's already hinted at with the input selector. I think we'll see more add on apps whether they be audio players or effect units.
Brief heavy rock noodle demo. I think Rosario is pretty decent, it's a bit 'fizzy', but so are all of the iOS Amp sims (IMO)
The problem with Rosario is not so much the sounds that they have in it( they are not bad and definitely usable for some needs ). The lack of deeper editing for the lacking patches is the bigger problem. This is why most all of us would be better served with the ability to work through our favorite apps into gadget for the win.
My thinking is something of the opposite here, the fact that you can now get decent guitar sounds in Gadget is very handy. The patch(s) used are saved in the project, ready to use without having to mess about with IAA stuff. My feeling is that you just need to make some decent patches from the available stuff in Rosario (yes, the presets aren't very good)
Remember that Rosario records the source audio, meaning you can record your licks while in Gadget, then export them to Tonestack or whatever your amp sim of choice is, process the audio and then import it into Zurich and turn up the level to get some of that saturation
It's free. Try it.
That's the way I see it from here.
The Gadget update hit literally as I was about to hop on a plane and leave to see some out-of-town family, so I tried to plug in my Strat with an Apogee JAM interface in about 5 minutes, and failed to generate any monitored or recorded sounds. Must have had a setting switched off somewhere.
I'm not expecting too much out of it, but Korg has enough of a background in guitar processing and effects that I was hopeful it could be useful for a lot of projects. Particularly ones where guitar is featured, but maybe its an EDM song or something where guitar is not the focal point.
The more likely workflow I'm hoping on is using the audio recorder and then capturing guitar as raw audio, including cab simulation, in front of the iPad. I have a number of a Tech21 and AMT Legend-type pedals that I'm hoping to use for this purpose. That should be a pretty low-latency approach to this, also, since all of the guitar processing is done with analog boxes.
But I definitely need to try Rosario again and check in with my thoughts...
The thing I like about having Rosario in Gadget comes back to the all-in-one aspect of Gadget as a whole. Every single tool I need is there without having to mess around with wiring things up via MIDI, IAA, AudioBus, ...
Rosario is good enough that it might just end up as the final thing in a lot of tracks, but if not, it's really not that hard to switch it off and grab the dry audio either with Gadget as the Input in AudioBus, AudioShare, AUM, Auria, ... and re-amp it to be put back in.
All in all, I'm really pleased, especially for having paid nothing.
My next beef, though is the lack of folder management for imported audio. What a stack of samples I'm going to have to sort through! It's already a mess.
Yup. Or at least separating samples by gadget. I don't need to scroll through all my one hit samples i've brought into bilbao
You need to hit the 'Rec' button in the Rosario channel strip (not the transport control) to get monitoring. I think that one tripped a few of us up at first.
No problem at all for me with Rosario. It adds to the functionality of Gadget, subtracts nothing, and it's free. No, it's not equivalent to dedicated guitar effects apps. Though Gadget can create some serious music, I don't expect it to output a final product. It's a great sketchpad, and Rosario, along with some limited audio recording capability, is a new plus.
Thanks @busker - That was absolutely what I was doing wrong. Might have eventually discovered it with more time, but you also might have saved me a half hour of swearing.
I could go on and on about Rosario, but I'll try to keep it concise: I like it! Especially this being a free add-on that I don't think us guitar players assumed we would ever get within Gadget. (Though, I would definitely have assumed that any audio input Gadget would also have allowed AB/IAA routing, which it presently does not). I like Rosario for the same reasons I paid THM Overloud for Auria - it's just so darn convenient to have a guitar modeler within your DAW and not have to worry about opening a second app (or hooking up a bunch of external hardware).
The collection of amps and cabs in Rosario is limited, but manages to hit most of basics you would need for different genres. Actually, I was most impressed how full and bassy these models sounded. That's been a problem at times with ToneStack, and arguably JamUp and some of the others. The Marshall JCM800 sounded convincing, and while some of the cleaner tones were less convincing (and fizzy at times), I was eventually able to find settings that did what I wanted by playing with different pedals and cabs.
You only get two pedal slots with two parameters each, and that can be a bit frustrating when you assign one of those to reverb and have just one other choice for distortion, delay, etc. But they are mostly pretty good. I'm not saying I would necessarily prefer all of these to alternatives from BIAS, ToneStack, or even MobilePOD, but given that we can't easily get those sounds into Gadget from other apps right now, it's almost necessary that Rosario is offered as an internal option.
Maybe it's wishful thinking, but there's also an outside chance Korg could continue to expand upon the offerings here, either with updates or as IAP.
Nailed it. Being able to record into Gadget keeps the "do everything within Gadget" workflow for me, which is where I find I'm most productive. If i start fussing with MIDI channels, IAA, etc., I inevitably get frustrated. Gadget is quick and easy, so this is a big plus for me as a guitarist.
I didn't immediately see a tuner in Rosario. Is it there, and I missed it? That's usually a standard feature of iOS guitar effects pedals apps, so that would have been nice, but not required.
I didn't see a tuner either, but maybe it's in there somewhere. This is really the first time you could really plug something external into Gadget that you would need to tune, so I'll excuse the oversight. I was playing into my iPad Pro, so I used my iPhone with the Fender tuning app on the table to tune my guitar. I did this after trying to lay down a bass track with Madrid underneath a guitar part I already recorded, and realized the guitar was off by basically half a semitone (50 cents?) from the nearest note in either direction. Haha. So yes, tune your guitars, kids.
I forgot to mention how happy I was by the low latency when I was playing with Rosario. My iPad Pro probably helps, but I was a longtime iPad 2 user (purchased in 2011), so I'm sympathetic to the plight of those who are using older hardware and trying to play guitar. AudioBus works great for most things and the latency is rarely a problem, but with guitar players, it's another added step in the processing chain, and some of those guitar apps are 30-50% CPU hogs to begin with, so there's some noticeable lag. Another advantage of built-in guitar options like Rosario and THM.
I noticed that Rosario has two channels of input. In my i6 setup, for example, I can choose 1+2, 3+4, or 5+6.
Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to only use one channel. The pan control is post-effect.
Has anyone figured out how to restrict the input to one channel?