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SunVox Web??

Wow. Is there any platform Alexander won't touch?
http://cdm.link/2017/03/music-software-thats-everywhere-now-browser-sunvox-web/
Wish there were a kind of AU system for web apps.

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  • Read this earlier today. Mind totally blown. We're basically not worthy of what this guy can pull off.

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    @Enkerli said:
    Wow. Is there any platform Alexander won't touch?
    http://cdm.link/2017/03/music-software-thats-everywhere-now-browser-sunvox-web/
    Wish there were a kind of AU system for web apps.

    Thanks for this, all hail Comrade Z.

    @syrupcore we are so lucky dude is on our side, :)
    (Incredible to me, still, that Sunvox is $6 on iOS. Even more incredible that Sunvox is free for a Windows touch machine like SP)

  • @syrupcore said:
    Read this earlier today. Mind totally blown. We're basically not worthy of what this guy can pull off.

    word

  • Anyone else besides me get lost with his apps?

    I fire up 1bit pix ANS and SunVox and just jam for hours

  • Impressive to say the least.

    Been a while since I coded anything in C, efficient or otherwise, next step, management ... nooooooo!

  • To be perfectly honest, I see Sunvox (of which I'm still hardly 'in' at all) as what software synthesis will resemble in a few hundred years or so. I don't think there'll be quite so much endless skeuomorphic renditions of 'vintage' synths from the 70s, because those will simply not be remembered as such and will fade from awareness. The heavyweight digital audio workstations will probably go the same way, I suggest.

    One thing, though - Sunvox as it stands at this moment, could be improved dramatically, by bringing it into 3D virtual reality and using it there. The interface is a bit hostile primarily because it collapses so many conceptual planes into one flat plane, which is almost akin to viewing billiards on a black and white telly.

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    This emscripten rendition is just a Sunvox player, though - not the full thing (yet)

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  • @Max23 said:
    That tracker interface gives me a headache 90s style. ^^
    So now it runs in a browser. Meh.
    So you are supposed to run it in Apache or what?
    Don't like the ans thing either, it always has that bad FFT sound you can't mask,
    if you know what I mean.
    Don't like VR at all, I feel enough autistic and alienated already. ^^
    /rant

    You hide it well!

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  • @Max23 said:
    ^^ you haven't heard me talking when I'm in a bad mood, yet.
    But I don't mind if you guys enjoy this proof of concept. Have fun.

    Mate, I've just survived flooding from an ex-Tropical Cyclone, twice.

    I'm watching A FREAKING RIVER march its sweet way up the front yard right now safe in the knowledge that it will never reach the house.

    I could have fun with a piece of string and a used cigarette butt right now!

    Your approval of my fun is appreciated though, I'd lose sleep otherwise. ;)

  • Personally to myself, SunVox has the loving craftsmanship of a beautifully made timepiece innards, with the outta case of a junk shop £1 store plastic watch :p

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  • Well, I remember reading what someone wrote somewhere (not here, I don't think) in my early explorations of iOS apps (and not yet into the volcano avalanche of app buying to follow, now stopped) that if they had known what they knew now they'd have saved a lot of money on apps by not buying any of them at all and just buying Sunvox (which I think was one of their early purchases), and people agreed with this.

    I'm putting this to the test in a way - on my Android phone, it is the only music making app I've bought and paid for (and have deleted any other minor freebie stuff). So far, even though I sporadically use it intermittently, I really don't miss the rest of the synth possibilities on Android.

  • @u0421793 said:
    To be perfectly honest, I see Sunvox (of which I'm still hardly 'in' at all) as what software synthesis will resemble in a few hundred years or so. I don't think there'll be quite so much endless skeuomorphic renditions of 'vintage' synths from the 70s, because those will simply not be remembered as such and will fade from awareness. The heavyweight digital audio workstations will probably go the same way, I suggest.

    Catching your drift. Especially on skeuomorphism. But also agree on the @Fruitbat1919 characterization. In fact, the app’s design reminds me of Brutalism.

    Funnily enough, part of my academic interest, these days, is about the development of these core models for musicking with digital devices. Trackers, step sequencers, piano rolls, MPC-style 4x4 drumpads, scenes, etc.
    People here rave about KRFT and that clearly sounds like a new approach. Reminds me a bit of Max/MSP and Pure Data. There’s also livecoding, which could lead to something quite different if you think away from the text input. Lots of possibilities but a whole lot of people focus on a few basic approaches.
    Trackers have had a big part to play, but they’re not that obvious as part of the mainstream DAWs. Almost like they fit a given mode which hasn’t attracted the same kind of subversion as, say, the Korg Electribe or Roland TR-808.

    Maybe Nerdcore will change it all.

    One thing, though - Sunvox as it stands at this moment, could be improved dramatically, by bringing it into 3D virtual reality and using it there. The interface is a bit hostile primarily because it collapses so many conceptual planes into one flat plane, which is almost akin to viewing billiards on a black and white telly.

    Isn’t @RulesOfBlazon into VR?

  • If only SunVox and KRFT would marry imagine the child? Oh man!

    @u0421793 said:
    To be perfectly honest, I see Sunvox (of which I'm still hardly 'in' at all) as what software synthesis will resemble in a few hundred years or so. I don't think there'll be quite so much endless skeuomorphic renditions of 'vintage' synths from the 70s, because those will simply not be remembered as such and will fade from awareness. The heavyweight digital audio workstations will probably go the same way, I suggest.

    One thing, though - Sunvox as it stands at this moment, could be improved dramatically, by bringing it into 3D virtual reality and using it there. The interface is a bit hostile primarily because it collapses so many conceptual planes into one flat plane, which is almost akin to viewing billiards on a black and white telly.

  • @Enkerli said:
    Isn’t @RulesOfBlazon into VR?

    Dunno what that is. But I'm into outdoor cooking- you kill it, I'll grill it (or smoke it, as the case may be). Bee-yoo-tee-ful Texas weather this time a year, hope I can work in some time on the back porch this weekend with Gadget, a couple racks o' ribs, and some fine local cerveza. (And some VR, if it's something cool...)

  • The interface... I just cant. Kudos to anyone who uses Sunvox like a pro. I'd be there in a heartbeat if it were somehow reimagined but longtime users would be PISSED I'm sure. So that leaves me not using Sunvox. I like to play on the touchscreen and the keyboard is not good and in a weird spot so it all goes downhill from there.

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    @db909 said:
    The interface... I just cant. Kudos to anyone who uses Sunvox like a pro. I'd be there in a heartbeat if it were somehow reimagined but longtime users would be PISSED I'm sure. So that leaves me not using Sunvox. I like to play on the touchscreen and the keyboard is not good and in a weird spot so it all goes downhill from there.

    I get that. Ive had waves of being put off by the interface, over the years. Ultimately it became "form follows function" and I worked with the interface and learned to appreciate it for what lies beneath. Started to see beauty after a point, but if NightRadio changes the GUI I wouldn't bitch, I'd follow dude wherever he wants to take it.

    Adding easy import of PixiTracker projects into SunVox also made a big difference to my work with both apps...adding an easy (iSequence-style) clip entry front panel to what can then go deep (synthesis-wise, fx-wise, composition-wise and AB-wise etc etc) working inside SunVox is big. Also, you know the keyboard and everything else in the Sunvox GUI slides around and rescales with touch drag gestures...and buttons and text are also user scalable.

  • @Littlewoodg said:

    @db909 said:
    The interface... I just cant. Kudos to anyone who uses Sunvox like a pro. I'd be there in a heartbeat if it were somehow reimagined but longtime users would be PISSED I'm sure. So that leaves me not using Sunvox. I like to play on the touchscreen and the keyboard is not good and in a weird spot so it all goes downhill from there.

    I get that. Ive had waves of being put off by the interface, over the years. Ultimately it became "form follows function" and I worked with the interface and learned to appreciate it for what lies beneath. Started to see beauty after a point, but if NightRadio changes the GUI I wouldn't bitch, I'd follow dude wherever he wants to take it.

    Adding easy import of PixiTracker projects into SunVox also made a big difference to my work with both apps...adding an easy (iSequence-style) clip entry front panel to what can then go deep (synthesis-wise, fx-wise, composition-wise and AB-wise etc etc) working inside SunVox is big. Also, you know the keyboard and everything else in the Sunvox GUI slides around and rescales with touch drag gestures...and buttons and text are also user scalable.

    I'm grown to kind of like the interface, especially the part about being able to push all of the interface you don't need at the moment, out of the way.

  • @skiphunt said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @db909 said:
    The interface... I just cant. Kudos to anyone who uses Sunvox like a pro. I'd be there in a heartbeat if it were somehow reimagined but longtime users would be PISSED I'm sure. So that leaves me not using Sunvox. I like to play on the touchscreen and the keyboard is not good and in a weird spot so it all goes downhill from there.

    I get that. Ive had waves of being put off by the interface, over the years. Ultimately it became "form follows function" and I worked with the interface and learned to appreciate it for what lies beneath. Started to see beauty after a point, but if NightRadio changes the GUI I wouldn't bitch, I'd follow dude wherever he wants to take it.

    Adding easy import of PixiTracker projects into SunVox also made a big difference to my work with both apps...adding an easy (iSequence-style) clip entry front panel to what can then go deep (synthesis-wise, fx-wise, composition-wise and AB-wise etc etc) working inside SunVox is big. Also, you know the keyboard and everything else in the Sunvox GUI slides around and rescales with touch drag gestures...and buttons and text are also user scalable.

    I'm grown to kind of like the interface, especially the part about being able to push all of the interface you don't need at the moment, out of the way.

    What it is, is it's incredibly smart. And deep. Pretty is in the eye of the beholder, and access always has to be learned, but access issues are also very personal.

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  • @Littlewoodg said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @db909 said:
    The interface... I just cant. Kudos to anyone who uses Sunvox like a pro. I'd be there in a heartbeat if it were somehow reimagined but longtime users would be PISSED I'm sure. So that leaves me not using Sunvox. I like to play on the touchscreen and the keyboard is not good and in a weird spot so it all goes downhill from there.

    I get that. Ive had waves of being put off by the interface, over the years. Ultimately it became "form follows function" and I worked with the interface and learned to appreciate it for what lies beneath. Started to see beauty after a point, but if NightRadio changes the GUI I wouldn't bitch, I'd follow dude wherever he wants to take it.

    Adding easy import of PixiTracker projects into SunVox also made a big difference to my work with both apps...adding an easy (iSequence-style) clip entry front panel to what can then go deep (synthesis-wise, fx-wise, composition-wise and AB-wise etc etc) working inside SunVox is big. Also, you know the keyboard and everything else in the Sunvox GUI slides around and rescales with touch drag gestures...and buttons and text are also user scalable.

    I'm grown to kind of like the interface, especially the part about being able to push all of the interface you don't need at the moment, out of the way.

    What it is, is it's incredibly smart. And deep. Pretty is in the eye of the beholder, and access always has to be learned, but access issues are also very personal.

    Any suggestions that can help me understand this app more. Everytime I open it I get intimidated and flustered. Purely my shortcomings

  • edited April 2017

    @Arpseechord said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @db909 said:
    The interface... I just cant. Kudos to anyone who uses Sunvox like a pro. I'd be there in a heartbeat if it were somehow reimagined but longtime users would be PISSED I'm sure. So that leaves me not using Sunvox. I like to play on the touchscreen and the keyboard is not good and in a weird spot so it all goes downhill from there.

    I get that. Ive had waves of being put off by the interface, over the years. Ultimately it became "form follows function" and I worked with the interface and learned to appreciate it for what lies beneath. Started to see beauty after a point, but if NightRadio changes the GUI I wouldn't bitch, I'd follow dude wherever he wants to take it.

    Adding easy import of PixiTracker projects into SunVox also made a big difference to my work with both apps...adding an easy (iSequence-style) clip entry front panel to what can then go deep (synthesis-wise, fx-wise, composition-wise and AB-wise etc etc) working inside SunVox is big. Also, you know the keyboard and everything else in the Sunvox GUI slides around and rescales with touch drag gestures...and buttons and text are also user scalable.

    I'm grown to kind of like the interface, especially the part about being able to push all of the interface you don't need at the moment, out of the way.

    What it is, is it's incredibly smart. And deep. Pretty is in the eye of the beholder, and access always has to be learned, but access issues are also very personal.

    Any suggestions that can help me understand this app more. Everytime I open it I get intimidated and flustered. Purely my shortcomings

    Search SunVox, on YouTube there's a lot of material there. Solarlune playlist is good,

    Daedalus too
    And NightRadio of course

    @Max23 if you can't make something you like with it, (or not quickly enough?) I would definitely say: avoid it.

    The idea that it's unworthy (or troll-worthy) because [you, or anyone else] haven't heard anything you like made with it is the kind of twaddle I hear about music software a lot, and it doesn't get any less fallacious the more it's repeated. One could paint any piece of software on the forum with the same sloppy brush, Gadget, Auria Pro etc etc...

    A statement like that stands tall on two pillars of mush: your (or anyone's) musical taste - a dubious basis for any statement about anything, really...and worse still, your confusion of correlation with causation

  • @Littlewoodg said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @db909 said:
    The interface... I just cant. Kudos to anyone who uses Sunvox like a pro. I'd be there in a heartbeat if it were somehow reimagined but longtime users would be PISSED I'm sure. So that leaves me not using Sunvox. I like to play on the touchscreen and the keyboard is not good and in a weird spot so it all goes downhill from there.

    I get that. Ive had waves of being put off by the interface, over the years. Ultimately it became "form follows function" and I worked with the interface and learned to appreciate it for what lies beneath. Started to see beauty after a point, but if NightRadio changes the GUI I wouldn't bitch, I'd follow dude wherever he wants to take it.

    Adding easy import of PixiTracker projects into SunVox also made a big difference to my work with both apps...adding an easy (iSequence-style) clip entry front panel to what can then go deep (synthesis-wise, fx-wise, composition-wise and AB-wise etc etc) working inside SunVox is big. Also, you know the keyboard and everything else in the Sunvox GUI slides around and rescales with touch drag gestures...and buttons and text are also user scalable.

    I'm grown to kind of like the interface, especially the part about being able to push all of the interface you don't need at the moment, out of the way.

    What it is, is it's incredibly smart. And deep. Pretty is in the eye of the beholder, and access always has to be learned, but access issues are also very personal.

    Any suggestions that can help me understand this app more. Everytime I open it I get intimidated and flustered. Purely my shortcomings

    Search SunVox, on YouTube there's a lot of material there.

    Thanks seems like a program worth understanding and using

  • @Arpseechord said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @db909 said:
    The interface... I just cant. Kudos to anyone who uses Sunvox like a pro. I'd be there in a heartbeat if it were somehow reimagined but longtime users would be PISSED I'm sure. So that leaves me not using Sunvox. I like to play on the touchscreen and the keyboard is not good and in a weird spot so it all goes downhill from there.

    I get that. Ive had waves of being put off by the interface, over the years. Ultimately it became "form follows function" and I worked with the interface and learned to appreciate it for what lies beneath. Started to see beauty after a point, but if NightRadio changes the GUI I wouldn't bitch, I'd follow dude wherever he wants to take it.

    Adding easy import of PixiTracker projects into SunVox also made a big difference to my work with both apps...adding an easy (iSequence-style) clip entry front panel to what can then go deep (synthesis-wise, fx-wise, composition-wise and AB-wise etc etc) working inside SunVox is big. Also, you know the keyboard and everything else in the Sunvox GUI slides around and rescales with touch drag gestures...and buttons and text are also user scalable.

    I'm grown to kind of like the interface, especially the part about being able to push all of the interface you don't need at the moment, out of the way.

    What it is, is it's incredibly smart. And deep. Pretty is in the eye of the beholder, and access always has to be learned, but access issues are also very personal.

    Any suggestions that can help me understand this app more. Everytime I open it I get intimidated and flustered. Purely my shortcomings

    Search SunVox, on YouTube there's a lot of material there.

    Thanks seems like a program worth understanding and using

    It's pretty impressive once you figure out much of the stuff it's capable of. I barely know how to use it, but I know enough that I can sequence something, tweak some synths, make a beat, etc. It's an app that keeps revealing more depth the more you play with it. But, it's not has hard or intimidating to use as it looks.

  • @skiphunt said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @db909 said:
    The interface... I just cant. Kudos to anyone who uses Sunvox like a pro. I'd be there in a heartbeat if it were somehow reimagined but longtime users would be PISSED I'm sure. So that leaves me not using Sunvox. I like to play on the touchscreen and the keyboard is not good and in a weird spot so it all goes downhill from there.

    I get that. Ive had waves of being put off by the interface, over the years. Ultimately it became "form follows function" and I worked with the interface and learned to appreciate it for what lies beneath. Started to see beauty after a point, but if NightRadio changes the GUI I wouldn't bitch, I'd follow dude wherever he wants to take it.

    Adding easy import of PixiTracker projects into SunVox also made a big difference to my work with both apps...adding an easy (iSequence-style) clip entry front panel to what can then go deep (synthesis-wise, fx-wise, composition-wise and AB-wise etc etc) working inside SunVox is big. Also, you know the keyboard and everything else in the Sunvox GUI slides around and rescales with touch drag gestures...and buttons and text are also user scalable.

    I'm grown to kind of like the interface, especially the part about being able to push all of the interface you don't need at the moment, out of the way.

    What it is, is it's incredibly smart. And deep. Pretty is in the eye of the beholder, and access always has to be learned, but access issues are also very personal.

    Any suggestions that can help me understand this app more. Everytime I open it I get intimidated and flustered. Purely my shortcomings

    Search SunVox, on YouTube there's a lot of material there.

    Thanks seems like a program worth understanding and using

    It's pretty impressive once you figure out much of the stuff it's capable of. I barely know how to use it, but I know enough that I can sequence something, tweak some synths, make a beat, etc. It's an app that keeps revealing more depth the more you play with it. But, it's not has hard or intimidating to use as it looks.

    That's good to know. I'd be happy to sequence, tweak and make a beat....I'd be ecstatic :)
    Guess I'll start with youtube vids and slowly get there or optimistically swiftly get there!

  • Incredible.

  • @RulesOfBlazon said:

    @Enkerli said:
    Isn’t @RulesOfBlazon into VR?

    Dunno what that is. But I'm into outdoor cooking- you kill it, I'll grill it (or smoke it, as the case may be). Bee-yoo-tee-ful Texas weather this time a year, hope I can work in some time on the back porch this weekend with Gadget, a couple racks o' ribs, and some fine local cerveza. (And some VR, if it's something cool...)

    Only lived in ATX for a little while (was supposed to settle down, there, but life got in the way). If memory serves, weather and pecans were pretty Gadget-friendly, by this time of year. (After SxSW...)

  • edited April 2017

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @db909 said:
    The interface... I just cant. Kudos to anyone who uses Sunvox like a pro. I'd be there in a heartbeat if it were somehow reimagined but longtime users would be PISSED I'm sure. So that leaves me not using Sunvox. I like to play on the touchscreen and the keyboard is not good and in a weird spot so it all goes downhill from there.

    I get that. Ive had waves of being put off by the interface, over the years. Ultimately it became "form follows function" and I worked with the interface and learned to appreciate it for what lies beneath. Started to see beauty after a point, but if NightRadio changes the GUI I wouldn't bitch, I'd follow dude wherever he wants to take it.

    Adding easy import of PixiTracker projects into SunVox also made a big difference to my work with both apps...adding an easy (iSequence-style) clip entry front panel to what can then go deep (synthesis-wise, fx-wise, composition-wise and AB-wise etc etc) working inside SunVox is big. Also, you know the keyboard and everything else in the Sunvox GUI slides around and rescales with touch drag gestures...and buttons and text are also user scalable.

    I'm grown to kind of like the interface, especially the part about being able to push all of the interface you don't need at the moment, out of the way.

    What it is, is it's incredibly smart. And deep. Pretty is in the eye of the beholder, and access always has to be learned, but access issues are also very personal.

    Any suggestions that can help me understand this app more. Everytime I open it I get intimidated and flustered. Purely my shortcomings

    Search SunVox, on YouTube there's a lot of material there. Solarlune playlist is good,

    Daedalus too
    And NightRadio of course

    @Max23 if you can't make something you like with it, (or not quickly enough?) I would definitely say: avoid it.

    The idea that it's unworthy (or troll-worthy) because [you, or anyone else] haven't heard anything you like made with it is the kind of twaddle I hear about music software a lot, and it doesn't get any less fallacious the more it's repeated. One could paint any piece of software on the forum with the same sloppy brush, Gadget, Auria Pro etc etc...

    A statement like that stands tall on two pillars of mush: your (or anyone's) musical taste - a dubious basis for any statement about anything, really...and worse still, your confusion of correlation with causation

    Thanks for the tutorial link, I just watched part one of solarlune and I'm feeling better about it. I've been blown away listening to some songs made with Sunvox and I'm excited to delve in!

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