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Issues with iConnectAudio4+ and Audiobus 3 (midisteps and MidiLFOS now solved)

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  • @Munibeast said:
    iConnectivity will not be able to follow the link that I sent them for this discussion unless it is changed back to what it was originally.

    They will. The old link will be auto-forwarded to the new one.

  • @Sebastian said:

    @Munibeast said:
    iConnectivity will not be able to follow the link that I sent them for this discussion unless it is changed back to what it was originally.

    They will. The old link will be auto-forwarded to the new one.

    I see. But still my problem has nothing to do with midisteps or midiLFOs so do we need a new thread for these AB3 ICA4+ problems?

  • @Munibeast said:

    @Sebastian said:

    @Munibeast said:
    iConnectivity will not be able to follow the link that I sent them for this discussion unless it is changed back to what it was originally.

    They will. The old link will be auto-forwarded to the new one.

    I see. But still my problem has nothing to do with midisteps or midiLFOs so do we need a new thread for these AB3 ICA4+ problems?

    Heh, if it makes you happy, I'll rename the thread again.

  • It's not about me being happy but about a thread title representing the problem correctly. Thanks! And I'm sorry if I'm getting on your nerves but you know I'll be happy when it finally works. We're not quite there yet...> @Sebastian said:

    @Munibeast said:

    @Sebastian said:

    @Munibeast said:
    iConnectivity will not be able to follow the link that I sent them for this discussion unless it is changed back to what it was originally.

    They will. The old link will be auto-forwarded to the new one.

    I see. But still my problem has nothing to do with midisteps or midiLFOs so do we need a new thread for these AB3 ICA4+ problems?

    Heh, if it makes you happy, I'll rename the thread again.

  • The issues do have a connection with AB3 also but that's okay o:)

  • Yes these issues are about Audiobus3 and audio interfaces, maybe it's not even related to the iCA4+ at all?

  • May I suggest "Issues with AB3 and iConnectAudio4+"? I think that would sum it up well.

  • @Carnbot said:
    Yes these issues are about Audiobus3 and audio interfaces, maybe it's not even related to the iCA4+ at all?

    So far I seem to be having issues on interfaces from 3 manufacturers. (NI, Novation and Iconnectivity) so it definitely isn't specific to the Ica4+. But I seem to have found issues and solutions to them that are specific to the Ica4+. For example:-

    Getting apps refusing to link to Audiobus ? Or keep disconnecting after a few seconds ?

    If you have multiple devices connected to the Ica4+, Say a desktop and audiobus3. Shut off all apps on the iOS device. On the desktop daw disable the ICA4+, reboot the ICA4+ and only then start audiobus3. After all the apps are arranged the way you like only then renable the Ica4+ on the desktop. It should solve any niggling pains with apps refusing to stay linked to Audiobus. I managed to have a session going for atleast 1.5hrs with no problems. Only reason I stopped is cause I had to go away from my desktop.

    From my understanding​ it seems to be that Audiobus 3 needs to link to the Ica4+ first. After that it doesn't really have a problem with another device accessing the interface. You can even unplug the iOS device and replug it and apps will still work.

  • @Carnbot said:
    Yes these issues are about Audiobus3 and audio interfaces, maybe it's not even related to the iCA4+ at all?

    Since this seems to be midiLFOs problem, an ICA4+ problem, and Audiobus 3 related problem I think it's a bit tricky. This is the Audiobus forum. Our current app is Audiobus 3. There are mainly problems with the ICA4+ (the midiFLO and STEPS issue has already been identified and I've talked to Art Kerns about it, so it's done). So I think this is an apt thread description.

    If you're having issues with other audio interfaces I highly recommend you contact me via the support portal so we can properly troubleshoot this without interference from other users who chime in with problems that might not be related. A reproduction would be nice. I think we even have a focusrite i18+1. Here's the link for that again: https://audiobus.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

  • So after talking to @gonekrazy3000 and asking him to do some tests it seem like the trick to get the ICA4+ working is to connect it to the device running Audiobus 3 first and then to connect it to the desktop.

  • @Sebastian said:
    So after talking to @gonekrazy3000 and asking him to do some tests it seem like the trick to get the ICA4+ working is to connect it to the device running Audiobus 3 first and then to connect it to the desktop.

    I'm actually curious to see if these issues persist with multiple IOS devices. Sadly I only own one capable of iOS 10.3. my iPad 3 is stuck in ios9.3.5. regardless I can run a few tests to see what happens. Will have to be tomorrow though..... For now I just want to focus on making music :)

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @rad3d said:
    @Sebastian - I was finally able to get MidiLFOs working 'without' being connected to the ICA4. I saved a preset with only MidiLFOs, exited both AB3 and MidiLFOs, reconnected the ICA4, and reloaded the preset. Doesn't appear to work when connected.

    It might be good to have someone try this with just a normal iConnectMidi (No Audio), to see if this causes a similar issue.

    midilfos is broken with all audio interfaces. its not specific to the Ica4+ unless you mean you got it to work somehow ?

    No - not working when I am connected to the ICA4+, though since it's a midi processing app only (no audio), I was wondering if it was somehow a different issue related only to the midi configurations with the ICA4 in AB3. If so, I'm assuming a test with a Midi only iConnect interface might help diagnose. But if you're saying it doesn't work with a specific audio-only (no additional midi connections) interface, then maybe it is specific to audio interfaces.

    MidiLFOs absolutely works in AB3 on it's own, but if I connect the ICA with MidiLFOs working, it immediately fails. If I disconnect the ICA4 and tap on MidiLFOs, it comes right back up. Just wondering if, in this case, it's having a hard time with the new midi ports found in AB3.

  • @rad3d said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @rad3d said:
    @Sebastian - I was finally able to get MidiLFOs working 'without' being connected to the ICA4. I saved a preset with only MidiLFOs, exited both AB3 and MidiLFOs, reconnected the ICA4, and reloaded the preset. Doesn't appear to work when connected.

    It might be good to have someone try this with just a normal iConnectMidi (No Audio), to see if this causes a similar issue.

    midilfos is broken with all audio interfaces. its not specific to the Ica4+ unless you mean you got it to work somehow ?

    No - not working when I am connected to the ICA4+, though since it's a midi processing app only (no audio), I was wondering if it was somehow a different issue related only to the midi configurations with the ICA4 in AB3. If so, I'm assuming a test with a Midi only iConnect interface might help diagnose. But if you're saying it doesn't work with a specific audio-only (no additional midi connections) interface, then maybe it is specific to audio interfaces.

    MidiLFOs absolutely works in AB3 on it's own, but if I connect the ICA with MidiLFOs working, it immediately fails. If I disconnect the ICA4 and tap on MidiLFOs, it comes right back up. Just wondering if, in this case, it's having a hard time with the new midi ports found in AB3.

    What i meant is any audio interface plugged into the IOS device, irrespective of the manufacturer, breaks midiLFO's and midiSTEPS. pretty sure even the iconnectmidi interfaces detect as a soundcard so it will break those 2 apps. testing with actual midi only interfaces like the irigMIDI (1st gen) and the Maudio MidisportX1 the apps work fine. a workaround is to host midiLFO's and midiSTEPS inside AUM or run them standalone outside AB3. in this manner they do not interfere with AB3 and are still functional. thanks to link they stay in perfect time with the rest as well. only thing you lose is AB3's start stop function.

  • edited April 2017

    @Sebastian said:

    When you're saying 'same behavior' you mean with the midiLFO/midiSTEPs apps or without?

    I can't use AB3 at all when connected to the 18i8 without getting the "tap to fix" message. That is with Midi or Audio. The "tap to fix" solution doesn't work either. If I unplug from the 18i8, it works instantly and then I can reconnect the 18i8 and all works fine.

    I have an Air 2 with iOS 10.3.1

  • @EssexGooner said:

    @Sebastian said:

    When you're saying 'same behavior' you mean with the midiLFO/midiSTEPs apps or without?

    I can't use AB3 at all when connected to the 18i8 without getting the "tap to fix" message. That is with Midi or Audio. The "tap to fix" solution doesn't work either. If I unplug from the 18i8, it works instantly and then I can reconnect the 18i8 and all works fine.

    I have an Air 2 with iOS 10.3.1

    The apps are broken on all audio interfaces. just need to wait for the developer to fix it. as a temporary workaround use them outside AB3.

  • edited April 2017

    I don't own Midisteps or Midi lfo, but my setup includes an ICM4+ , just Midi, and after restarting all of my devices (ICM4, KMix, Macbook, iPad), all of the issues first encountered went away, and all was smooth sailing, also with AB3 (even though I'm not really using the new Midistuff inside of it, I've kind of gotten used to the "promiscuous" Midi-behaviour of ios...). Maybe it helps...

  • Hi, yes this is a weird bug for my apps midiSTEPs and midiLFOs. I can reproduce it on my Komplete Audio 6. I am not sure of the cause, but the bottom line is it currently crashes the apps which is no good. While I try to figure it out, I have some workarounds implemented that I'll submit to Apple tonight that should make the apps work with the interfaces connected. Sorry for the trouble in the mean time.

  • Just wanted to bump this to see if there's been any success in finding the root of the problem with AB3 and ICA4+ or other audio interfaces. Any progress yet, @Sebastian? I want to love AB3 but this needs fixing first.

  • @Munibeast said:
    Just wanted to bump this to see if there's been any success in finding the root of the problem with AB3 and ICA4+ or other audio interfaces. Any progress yet, @Sebastian? I want to love AB3 but this needs fixing first.

    Nothing yet?

  • hmmmm, very quiet here

  • I have to say I can't pinpoint any real issues with the iCA4+ and AB3 since my initial problems. Since then it's been working fine for me.

  • @Carnbot said:
    I have to say I can't pinpoint any real issues with the iCA4+ and AB3 since my initial problems. Since then it's been working fine for me.

    That's not fair :angry:

  • @Munibeast said:

    @Carnbot said:
    I have to say I can't pinpoint any real issues with the iCA4+ and AB3 since my initial problems. Since then it's been working fine for me.

    That's not fair :angry:

    Which apps aren't working for you?

  • @Carnbot said:

    @Munibeast said:

    @Carnbot said:
    I have to say I can't pinpoint any real issues with the iCA4+ and AB3 since my initial problems. Since then it's been working fine for me.

    That's not fair :angry:

    Which apps aren't working for you?

    The better question would be which ones DO work...
    Basically everything Audio fails to load

  • Its working perfectly for me as well. only ones i had problems with before were midi-steps and midi-lfos and they're both fixed now.

  • I haven't bought the new Audiobus 3 app yet or I could do some testing with my ICA4+ as well. Might be my next app purchase.

  • @Munibeast said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @Munibeast said:

    @Carnbot said:
    I have to say I can't pinpoint any real issues with the iCA4+ and AB3 since my initial problems. Since then it's been working fine for me.

    That's not fair :angry:

    Which apps aren't working for you?

    The better question would be which ones DO work...
    Basically everything Audio fails to load

    Not sure why that would be, I didn't do anything special and I've got two iCa4's that AB3 seems fine with now.

  • As soon I disconnect from the ICA there's no problem loading apps in AB3 but with it pretty much everything is broken. The only possible way is to load everything before connecting to the ICA but that's ridiculous.

  • Just thought I'd try the newly updated to AB3 Animoog. Same thing: Tap to fix :angry:

  • @Carnbot said:

    @Munibeast said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @Munibeast said:

    @Carnbot said:
    I have to say I can't pinpoint any real issues with the iCA4+ and AB3 since my initial problems. Since then it's been working fine for me.

    That's not fair :angry:

    Which apps aren't working for you?

    The better question would be which ones DO work...
    Basically everything Audio fails to load

    Not sure why that would be, I didn't do anything special and I've got two iCa4's that AB3 seems fine with now.

    So you can load everything into AB3 consistently while connected to the ICA?

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