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The AUMmperor is in the naughty corner here today, as it failed to record a ten minute live jam I did last night.
AUM is a great app, but it's over a year since the last update and I'm finding its reliability an issue.
Me too. AUMmperor caused repeated glitches during our band's MIDI demo session last night with the group's music teacher on-the-clock. ThumbJam kept going into perpetual note sustain, which devastated the "Wow!" effect I was hoping for. The only other app running was Animoog, which worked fine (no note sustain). AB3 was closed so I don't believe AB3 had anything to do with the perpetual note sustain, but maybe that's wrong - sometimes audio apps (iTunes or iOS Music app) seems to run in the background even when they appear to be closed. I shut down AUM, ThumbJam and Animoog multiple times and restarted them from within AUM but the sustain problem kept coming back. Of course that didn't happen yesterday morning when I was preparing for our group's rehearsal.
Agreed that AB3 has its own set of glitches. It took me forever to get Animoog and ThumbJam to play nicely together in Midiflow Splitter. Both audio apps wanted to hog the entire keyboard despite a split in the middle. I tried setting this up five or six times before it "clicked in" and started working. Once I got MF Splitter to work and saved the patch off in AB3 it kept working just fine thereafter. The group "wow" was present when our keyboardist played his bass notes through Animoog on his right hand, and the mid-tone notes through ThumbJam on his left hand. (BTW, ThumbJam doesn't appear to support "octave up / octave down" from MF Splitter yet, but I think it can be done within the app.)
I remain apprehensive about the reliability of either AUM or AB3 in the live performance setting. Only time will tell how often we have such problems. We will keep using analogue guitar cords from our keyboard to the mixer as a fallback strategy in case iPad MIDI glitches. We cannot have concerts destroyed because of MIDI weirdness.
Slightly off topic: Does anybody have suggestions for a ThumbJam replacement that's more reliable with AUM and AB3? We like TJ's simplicity and its instruments. We need something that plays well with Auria Pro and doesn't have 48/44.1 kHz problems discussed 11-14 posts back in the thread. Thanks.
Suggestion: send up a query to @sonosaurus to troubleshoot your issues with TJ, he's a presence here on the forum, and really knows his stuff
Good idea. Unfortunately with issues that only happen once (one rehearsal) it can be difficult to track exactly what sequence of events caused the problem. I will write TJ if it happens again, making careful note of the order of events. We had been doing a bunch of audio sample comparisons, and the interminable sustain only began after our tenth or twelfth instrument was loaded... then it happened with instruments that previously didn't have any problem.
Was it a TJ bug? Was it an AUM problem? Was it something else? This sort of thing must be incredibly frustrating from a Developer's standpoint when the customer cannot clearly articulate what happened.
@Loose_Strings indeed,
Tricky realm, is iOS music. I had the interminable sustain a couple days ago in a AB2 setup, a combination of several apps, and no idea which was the culprit.
I mentioned the dev in TJs case as I can't imagine replacing it, and have (probably way overmuch) faith in its stability etc.
I had that sustain too. Not sure which app is the faulty one.
Another thing happen sometimes, i was using 4 apps in Audiobus 3 and switched force and back, played a bit and Animoog goes back to the default patch.
Yep, that multi-apps iOS thing is still a bit masochism.
Maybe it's because apps are not Audiobus 3 ready?
AB3 readiness for a multichannel midi sequencer (just one, Genome or Modstep) would pretty much clinch the tech for me- having a sequencer for multiple instances of AUx items, and a few IAA fellas with the midi play already available will be the win
Or sadism... it just depends which end of the pitchfork you're on.
If I keep going, will get this thread shut down for sure.
I had this happen several times yesterday morning... fortunately, Animoog was a champion while the band was present.
I reported the endless sustain to ThumbJam Support.
Thanks, let's handle this via email for now (I already replied), but we'll post any solutions/explanations here when we find them.
@sonosaurus
I spent more time last night and again this morning in AUM with Thumbjam, Animoog and DM1 as inputs, +/- Magellan as an insert below Thumbjam. I did not experience any endless-sustain problems. I did have a challenge getting each of the apps to re-load in AUM if I quit AUM without quitting each of the other apps before restarting AUM. I expect this is normal AUM behavior... but still learning. The AUM Youtube videos suggest some apps need to be pre-loaded whereas others do not.
I will email you if I have another encounter with 'endless sustain.' For now, I cannot reproduce the behavior.