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[Video] Actually making good music with apps

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  • I'm not so much into this sort of music, but for what this guy is doing, I think he's very talented. He's also working very hard to hone his craft, build audience, and has been hammering away at the Patreon thing for a good 3 years.

    I think if iOS music ever wants to really get out of the little niche forum dungeons ;) and enjoy much wider appeal and success, this is EXACTLY the kind of video that needs to get out there. Just like the video of that hip-hop producer someone posted a few days ago. Videos like this will catch on eventually like wildfire. More apps will be sold, prices may go up, more development and profit for everyone.

    Anyone who wants to see iOS sound come into it's own and get the respect it deserves, should not be the slightest bit dismissive about any video that promotes the platform.

  • Well, I think the world benefits from when we share unique things about ourselves. So... take that how you like ;-)
    There is always room for more of that content.

    And more Bebot also. We can all agree on that, I reckon.

  • @skiphunt said:
    I'm not so much into this sort of music, but for what this guy is doing, I think he's very talented. He's also working very hard to hone his craft, build audience, and has been hammering away at the Patreon thing for a good 3 years.

    I think if iOS music ever wants to really get out of the little niche forum dungeons ;) and enjoy much wider appeal and success, this is EXACTLY the kind of video that needs to get out there. Just like the video of that hip-hop producer someone posted a few days ago. Videos like this will catch on eventually like wildfire. More apps will be sold, prices may go up, more development and profit for everyone.

    Anyone who wants to see iOS sound come into it's own and get the respect it deserves, should not be the slightest bit dismissive about any video that promotes the platform.

    Indeed

    Any publicity is good publicity as they say....don't ask me who they are, because I don't know :)

  • edited April 2017

    Featuring Andrew but directed by someone else. If you don't like this we probably wouldn't be friends lol.

  • also some good points Skiphunt. I'm not dismissive of the videos, just not enjoying them personally.

    And actually your points somewhat reiterate my dislike: this type of video is essentially an advertisement, not really art and not really meaningful.

  • edited April 2017

    @Hmtx said:
    not really art and not really meaningful.

    Pow!

    What the world needs is more uniqueness and diversity with a more positive message, even if that message is just "create whatever the hell you want".

  • @OscarSouth said:

    just "create whatever the hell you want".

    I'd like to take this advice more often ;-)

  • @nw1 said:
    (Though the term "hater" would also perhaps imply some jealousy or a need to assure everyone that this isn't as good as they might think.)

    This is a good urban dictionary style definition, but there's also the flip side where the person being criticized (or their supporters) dismiss any negative comments as coming from haters. I'm not one to play the generational card, but this does seem to be a phenomenon with younger people where everyone is a winner just for participating.

    As for the video, it was interesting enough for a few minutes of my time, but I sort of knew what I was going to get with the title of "Actually making good music with apps" -- which struck me as haughty and presumptuous right of the bat.

    Anyway, good discussion here.

  • I'd take pop ecoolness over the opinion police who seems to think they can decide what constitutes art any day

    Kinda ironic to see people state things like positive message and create anything you like while judging someone for doing just that

    Also, the age old saying opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one and they all stink is as relevant as ever

    Finally, while it's great to form your own opinions , there is no law against considering when it's relevant to actually express them

  • @Igneous1 said:

    @nw1 said:
    So much hating in this thread.

    What is this new fangled 'hating' terminology ? Aren't we allowed to dislike something these days, or be underwhelmed by something without being described as a 'hater' ? I don't know who this feller is, I certainly don't hate him for his style of presentation, it's just not my thing. The word hate is being inappropriately used.

    What's going on here with some people is jealousy, plain and simple. Some young kid is talented and has a good life. Good for him. I'm not into his music, but i'm not the target demographic.

    Why worry about something like "ecool" It's the same when i watch teenagers on the street. I just smile and wish them the best :) We all were young once

  • edited April 2017

    Look. It's easy. He knows his target market and he speaks to that market very very well. Now every now and then if we allow ourselves to move beyond our comfort zones we can actually learn something new. And what is that "new" thing? Well, it's about potentially living an inspired life in which we share what is good and beautiful with the world so that others might be inspired and continue to grow as a person for the betterment of society.

    I dunno. I'm not saying we should "love" everything, but I am saying that if one takes their time to actually view something that clearly comes from a good and creative space, it is our duty as artists to seek the truth behind the intent so that we might extract a germ of truth which will inspire our very own souls.

    For me what I extracted was that each and every day I should make something. No matter how short or long the piece, just keep playing and learning and posting. It's no different than sketching or writing everyday. Unleash the spirit through practice and embrace and tune the process.

    Press Repeat.

  • Hey what's not to be jealous of, he's young good looking, and seems to be having a lot of fun while making some money.

  • edited April 2017

    I'm enjoying this interesting discussion, although as the "everyone is awesome" point of view seems to be piling on a little forcefully, I'll share some 'philosophically augmented' opinion from the opposing point of view:

    The ideas represented in art frontrun the collective mind of society.

    Look at the artwork and fiction of any given era and the facts of the following decades. When the subject matter focussed on utopia and the infinite possibility of human ingenuity, we achieved amazing things and started (just started.. ) to build a peaceful and unified world. When fiction focusses on apocalypse and conspiracy, the rot starts to set in. We need a boost, yeah? It's us artists (every single one) on whom that responsibility falls.

    So when artists put out derivative 'Landfill [insert genre here]' content under a carefully crafted business/marketing model (and immaculately sculpted eyebrows), they're not just making content that doesn't contribute towards the furthering of their field, but are also shirking the societal responsibility of art for their own prosperity and egoistical satisfaction. Not that I'm taking a stand against that (we've all got to make a living) but when you choose to use a cultural platform to mass produce 'curated' content with no message beyond "Look at me!" to the widest possible audience you can 'strategically target', you're no longer an artist. You're simply running a business.

    That said though, this is nothing against "Andrew's" (first name terms?? .. ECOOL) work. He's just the businessman to coincidentally fall under the humourous line of fire. I watched a few of his other videos and he has some cool stuff. I like the concepts behind a lot of his work and they very competently uphold modern production 'norms', although his skill as a composer is left me uninspired. I liked his video of a track 'made from water'.. Great concepts, some really nice musical textures, great production, can't remember a single moment of the music.

  • @OscarSouth said:
    I'm enjoying this interesting discussion, although as the "everyone is awesome" point of view seems to be piling on a little forcefully, I'll share some 'philosophically augmented' opinion from the opposing point of view:

    The ideas represented in art frontrun the collective mind of society.

    Look at the artwork and fiction of any given era and the facts of the following decades. When the subject matter focussed on utopia and the infinite possibility of human ingenuity, we achieved amazing things and started (just started.. ) to build a peaceful and unified world. When fiction focusses on apocalypse and conspiracy, the rot starts to set in. We need a boost, yeah? It's us artists (every single one) on whom that responsibility falls.

    So when artists put out derivative 'Landfill [insert genre here]' content under a carefully crafted business/marketing model (and immaculately sculpted eyebrows), they're not just making content that doesn't contribute towards the furthering of their field, but are also shirking the societal responsibility of art for their own prosperity and egoistical satisfaction. Not that I'm taking a stand against that (we've all got to make a living) but when you choose to use a cultural platform to mass produce 'curated' content with no message beyond "Look at me!" to the widest possible audience you can 'strategically target', you're no longer an artist. You're simply running a business.

    That said though, this is nothing against "Andrew's" (first name terms?? .. ECOOL) work. He's just the businessman to coincidentally fall under the humourous line of fire. I watched a few of his other videos and he has some cool stuff. I like the concepts behind a lot of his work and they very competently uphold modern production 'norms', although his skill as a composer is left me uninspired. I liked his video of a track 'made from water'.. Great concepts, some really nice musical textures, great production, can't remember a single moment of the music.

    WHEN did we start a peaceful and unified world? You think just because some dudes dropped acid and had a blast in the 60s did it really changed the world?

    Your theory is utter bullshit. It is not Artists job to lead humanity. Hell no.

    Look at Richard Wagner. To me the greatest composer of all time, not even a close second. A raging antisemite. Hitler loved his music, and Hitler himself was a decent artist, his paintings were not bad. Artists are just people. Stop putting them on a pedestal, even if they are geniuses.

  • edited April 2017

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I'm enjoying this interesting discussion, although as the "everyone is awesome" point of view seems to be piling on a little forcefully, I'll share some 'philosophically augmented' opinion from the opposing point of view:

    The ideas represented in art frontrun the collective mind of society.

    Look at the artwork and fiction of any given era and the facts of the following decades. When the subject matter focussed on utopia and the infinite possibility of human ingenuity, we achieved amazing things and started (just started.. ) to build a peaceful and unified world. When fiction focusses on apocalypse and conspiracy, the rot starts to set in. We need a boost, yeah? It's us artists (every single one) on whom that responsibility falls.

    So when artists put out derivative 'Landfill [insert genre here]' content under a carefully crafted business/marketing model (and immaculately sculpted eyebrows), they're not just making content that doesn't contribute towards the furthering of their field, but are also shirking the societal responsibility of art for their own prosperity and egoistical satisfaction. Not that I'm taking a stand against that (we've all got to make a living) but when you choose to use a cultural platform to mass produce 'curated' content with no message beyond "Look at me!" to the widest possible audience you can 'strategically target', you're no longer an artist. You're simply running a business.

    That said though, this is nothing against "Andrew's" (first name terms?? .. ECOOL) work. He's just the businessman to coincidentally fall under the humourous line of fire. I watched a few of his other videos and he has some cool stuff. I like the concepts behind a lot of his work and they very competently uphold modern production 'norms', although his skill as a composer is left me uninspired. I liked his video of a track 'made from water'.. Great concepts, some really nice musical textures, great production, can't remember a single moment of the music.

    WHEN did we start a peaceful and unified world? You think just because some dudes dropped acid and had a blast in the 60s did it really changed the world?

    Your theory is utter bullshit. It is not Artists job to lead humanity. Hell no.

    Look at Richard Wagner. To me the greatest composer of all time, not even a close second. A raging antisemite. Hitler loved his music, and Hitler himself was a decent artist, his paintings were not bad. Artists are just people. Stop putting them on a pedestal, even if they are geniuses.

    We're just (maybe slightly more than) a few years out of one of the most peaceful and prosperous periods in the history of Humankind. Have a look at the common themes in popular art and fiction preceding and towards the end of that period.

  • @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I'm enjoying this interesting discussion, although as the "everyone is awesome" point of view seems to be piling on a little forcefully, I'll share some 'philosophically augmented' opinion from the opposing point of view:

    The ideas represented in art frontrun the collective mind of society.

    Look at the artwork and fiction of any given era and the facts of the following decades. When the subject matter focussed on utopia and the infinite possibility of human ingenuity, we achieved amazing things and started (just started.. ) to build a peaceful and unified world. When fiction focusses on apocalypse and conspiracy, the rot starts to set in. We need a boost, yeah? It's us artists (every single one) on whom that responsibility falls.

    So when artists put out derivative 'Landfill [insert genre here]' content under a carefully crafted business/marketing model (and immaculately sculpted eyebrows), they're not just making content that doesn't contribute towards the furthering of their field, but are also shirking the societal responsibility of art for their own prosperity and egoistical satisfaction. Not that I'm taking a stand against that (we've all got to make a living) but when you choose to use a cultural platform to mass produce 'curated' content with no message beyond "Look at me!" to the widest possible audience you can 'strategically target', you're no longer an artist. You're simply running a business.

    That said though, this is nothing against "Andrew's" (first name terms?? .. ECOOL) work. He's just the businessman to coincidentally fall under the humourous line of fire. I watched a few of his other videos and he has some cool stuff. I like the concepts behind a lot of his work and they very competently uphold modern production 'norms', although his skill as a composer is left me uninspired. I liked his video of a track 'made from water'.. Great concepts, some really nice musical textures, great production, can't remember a single moment of the music.

    WHEN did we start a peaceful and unified world? You think just because some dudes dropped acid and had a blast in the 60s did it really changed the world?

    Your theory is utter bullshit. It is not Artists job to lead humanity. Hell no.

    Look at Richard Wagner. To me the greatest composer of all time, not even a close second. A raging antisemite. Hitler loved his music, and Hitler himself was a decent artist, his paintings were not bad. Artists are just people. Stop putting them on a pedestal, even if they are geniuses.

    We've just come out of the most peaceful and prosperous periods in the history of Humankind. Have a look at the common themes in popular art and fiction preceding and towards the end of that period.

    Yea the "artist" that gave us this "peace" period was Richard Oppenheimer. Look him up, he had two MEGA hits...

  • @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I'm enjoying this interesting discussion, although as the "everyone is awesome" point of view seems to be piling on a little forcefully, I'll share some 'philosophically augmented' opinion from the opposing point of view:

    The ideas represented in art frontrun the collective mind of society.

    Look at the artwork and fiction of any given era and the facts of the following decades. When the subject matter focussed on utopia and the infinite possibility of human ingenuity, we achieved amazing things and started (just started.. ) to build a peaceful and unified world. When fiction focusses on apocalypse and conspiracy, the rot starts to set in. We need a boost, yeah? It's us artists (every single one) on whom that responsibility falls.

    So when artists put out derivative 'Landfill [insert genre here]' content under a carefully crafted business/marketing model (and immaculately sculpted eyebrows), they're not just making content that doesn't contribute towards the furthering of their field, but are also shirking the societal responsibility of art for their own prosperity and egoistical satisfaction. Not that I'm taking a stand against that (we've all got to make a living) but when you choose to use a cultural platform to mass produce 'curated' content with no message beyond "Look at me!" to the widest possible audience you can 'strategically target', you're no longer an artist. You're simply running a business.

    That said though, this is nothing against "Andrew's" (first name terms?? .. ECOOL) work. He's just the businessman to coincidentally fall under the humourous line of fire. I watched a few of his other videos and he has some cool stuff. I like the concepts behind a lot of his work and they very competently uphold modern production 'norms', although his skill as a composer is left me uninspired. I liked his video of a track 'made from water'.. Great concepts, some really nice musical textures, great production, can't remember a single moment of the music.

    WHEN did we start a peaceful and unified world? You think just because some dudes dropped acid and had a blast in the 60s did it really changed the world?

    Your theory is utter bullshit. It is not Artists job to lead humanity. Hell no.

    Look at Richard Wagner. To me the greatest composer of all time, not even a close second. A raging antisemite. Hitler loved his music, and Hitler himself was a decent artist, his paintings were not bad. Artists are just people. Stop putting them on a pedestal, even if they are geniuses.

    We've just come out of the most peaceful and prosperous periods in the history of Humankind. Have a look at the common themes in popular art and fiction preceding and towards the end of that period.

    Yea the "artist" that gave us this "peace" period was Richard Oppenheimer. Look him up, he had two MEGA hits...

    Ok cool, anyway I'm waiting for the interesting philosophical debate to continue.

  • @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I'm enjoying this interesting discussion, although as the "everyone is awesome" point of view seems to be piling on a little forcefully, I'll share some 'philosophically augmented' opinion from the opposing point of view:

    The ideas represented in art frontrun the collective mind of society.

    Look at the artwork and fiction of any given era and the facts of the following decades. When the subject matter focussed on utopia and the infinite possibility of human ingenuity, we achieved amazing things and started (just started.. ) to build a peaceful and unified world. When fiction focusses on apocalypse and conspiracy, the rot starts to set in. We need a boost, yeah? It's us artists (every single one) on whom that responsibility falls.

    So when artists put out derivative 'Landfill [insert genre here]' content under a carefully crafted business/marketing model (and immaculately sculpted eyebrows), they're not just making content that doesn't contribute towards the furthering of their field, but are also shirking the societal responsibility of art for their own prosperity and egoistical satisfaction. Not that I'm taking a stand against that (we've all got to make a living) but when you choose to use a cultural platform to mass produce 'curated' content with no message beyond "Look at me!" to the widest possible audience you can 'strategically target', you're no longer an artist. You're simply running a business.

    That said though, this is nothing against "Andrew's" (first name terms?? .. ECOOL) work. He's just the businessman to coincidentally fall under the humourous line of fire. I watched a few of his other videos and he has some cool stuff. I like the concepts behind a lot of his work and they very competently uphold modern production 'norms', although his skill as a composer is left me uninspired. I liked his video of a track 'made from water'.. Great concepts, some really nice musical textures, great production, can't remember a single moment of the music.

    WHEN did we start a peaceful and unified world? You think just because some dudes dropped acid and had a blast in the 60s did it really changed the world?

    Your theory is utter bullshit. It is not Artists job to lead humanity. Hell no.

    Look at Richard Wagner. To me the greatest composer of all time, not even a close second. A raging antisemite. Hitler loved his music, and Hitler himself was a decent artist, his paintings were not bad. Artists are just people. Stop putting them on a pedestal, even if they are geniuses.

    We've just come out of the most peaceful and prosperous periods in the history of Humankind. Have a look at the common themes in popular art and fiction preceding and towards the end of that period.

    Yea the "artist" that gave us this "peace" period was Richard Oppenheimer. Look him up, he had two MEGA hits...

    Ok cool, anyway I'm waiting for the interesting philosophical debate to continue.

    You are full blown delusional lol. It's kinda funny and sad at the same time :D

  • @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I'm enjoying this interesting discussion, although as the "everyone is awesome" point of view seems to be piling on a little forcefully, I'll share some 'philosophically augmented' opinion from the opposing point of view:

    The ideas represented in art frontrun the collective mind of society.

    Look at the artwork and fiction of any given era and the facts of the following decades. When the subject matter focussed on utopia and the infinite possibility of human ingenuity, we achieved amazing things and started (just started.. ) to build a peaceful and unified world. When fiction focusses on apocalypse and conspiracy, the rot starts to set in. We need a boost, yeah? It's us artists (every single one) on whom that responsibility falls.

    So when artists put out derivative 'Landfill [insert genre here]' content under a carefully crafted business/marketing model (and immaculately sculpted eyebrows), they're not just making content that doesn't contribute towards the furthering of their field, but are also shirking the societal responsibility of art for their own prosperity and egoistical satisfaction. Not that I'm taking a stand against that (we've all got to make a living) but when you choose to use a cultural platform to mass produce 'curated' content with no message beyond "Look at me!" to the widest possible audience you can 'strategically target', you're no longer an artist. You're simply running a business.

    That said though, this is nothing against "Andrew's" (first name terms?? .. ECOOL) work. He's just the businessman to coincidentally fall under the humourous line of fire. I watched a few of his other videos and he has some cool stuff. I like the concepts behind a lot of his work and they very competently uphold modern production 'norms', although his skill as a composer is left me uninspired. I liked his video of a track 'made from water'.. Great concepts, some really nice musical textures, great production, can't remember a single moment of the music.

    WHEN did we start a peaceful and unified world? You think just because some dudes dropped acid and had a blast in the 60s did it really changed the world?

    Your theory is utter bullshit. It is not Artists job to lead humanity. Hell no.

    Look at Richard Wagner. To me the greatest composer of all time, not even a close second. A raging antisemite. Hitler loved his music, and Hitler himself was a decent artist, his paintings were not bad. Artists are just people. Stop putting them on a pedestal, even if they are geniuses.

    We've just come out of the most peaceful and prosperous periods in the history of Humankind. Have a look at the common themes in popular art and fiction preceding and towards the end of that period.

    Yea the "artist" that gave us this "peace" period was Richard Oppenheimer. Look him up, he had two MEGA hits...

    Ok cool, anyway I'm waiting for the interesting philosophical debate to continue.

    You are full blown delusional lol. It's kinda funny and sad at the same time :D

    Go away.

  • @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I'm enjoying this interesting discussion, although as the "everyone is awesome" point of view seems to be piling on a little forcefully, I'll share some 'philosophically augmented' opinion from the opposing point of view:

    The ideas represented in art frontrun the collective mind of society.

    Look at the artwork and fiction of any given era and the facts of the following decades. When the subject matter focussed on utopia and the infinite possibility of human ingenuity, we achieved amazing things and started (just started.. ) to build a peaceful and unified world. When fiction focusses on apocalypse and conspiracy, the rot starts to set in. We need a boost, yeah? It's us artists (every single one) on whom that responsibility falls.

    So when artists put out derivative 'Landfill [insert genre here]' content under a carefully crafted business/marketing model (and immaculately sculpted eyebrows), they're not just making content that doesn't contribute towards the furthering of their field, but are also shirking the societal responsibility of art for their own prosperity and egoistical satisfaction. Not that I'm taking a stand against that (we've all got to make a living) but when you choose to use a cultural platform to mass produce 'curated' content with no message beyond "Look at me!" to the widest possible audience you can 'strategically target', you're no longer an artist. You're simply running a business.

    That said though, this is nothing against "Andrew's" (first name terms?? .. ECOOL) work. He's just the businessman to coincidentally fall under the humourous line of fire. I watched a few of his other videos and he has some cool stuff. I like the concepts behind a lot of his work and they very competently uphold modern production 'norms', although his skill as a composer is left me uninspired. I liked his video of a track 'made from water'.. Great concepts, some really nice musical textures, great production, can't remember a single moment of the music.

    WHEN did we start a peaceful and unified world? You think just because some dudes dropped acid and had a blast in the 60s did it really changed the world?

    Your theory is utter bullshit. It is not Artists job to lead humanity. Hell no.

    Look at Richard Wagner. To me the greatest composer of all time, not even a close second. A raging antisemite. Hitler loved his music, and Hitler himself was a decent artist, his paintings were not bad. Artists are just people. Stop putting them on a pedestal, even if they are geniuses.

    We've just come out of the most peaceful and prosperous periods in the history of Humankind. Have a look at the common themes in popular art and fiction preceding and towards the end of that period.

    Yea the "artist" that gave us this "peace" period was Richard Oppenheimer. Look him up, he had two MEGA hits...

    Ok cool, anyway I'm waiting for the interesting philosophical debate to continue.

    You are full blown delusional lol. It's kinda funny and sad at the same time :D

    Go away.

    Like your ability to think reasonably?

  • edited April 2017

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I'm enjoying this interesting discussion, although as the "everyone is awesome" point of view seems to be piling on a little forcefully, I'll share some 'philosophically augmented' opinion from the opposing point of view:

    The ideas represented in art frontrun the collective mind of society.

    Look at the artwork and fiction of any given era and the facts of the following decades. When the subject matter focussed on utopia and the infinite possibility of human ingenuity, we achieved amazing things and started (just started.. ) to build a peaceful and unified world. When fiction focusses on apocalypse and conspiracy, the rot starts to set in. We need a boost, yeah? It's us artists (every single one) on whom that responsibility falls.

    So when artists put out derivative 'Landfill [insert genre here]' content under a carefully crafted business/marketing model (and immaculately sculpted eyebrows), they're not just making content that doesn't contribute towards the furthering of their field, but are also shirking the societal responsibility of art for their own prosperity and egoistical satisfaction. Not that I'm taking a stand against that (we've all got to make a living) but when you choose to use a cultural platform to mass produce 'curated' content with no message beyond "Look at me!" to the widest possible audience you can 'strategically target', you're no longer an artist. You're simply running a business.

    That said though, this is nothing against "Andrew's" (first name terms?? .. ECOOL) work. He's just the businessman to coincidentally fall under the humourous line of fire. I watched a few of his other videos and he has some cool stuff. I like the concepts behind a lot of his work and they very competently uphold modern production 'norms', although his skill as a composer is left me uninspired. I liked his video of a track 'made from water'.. Great concepts, some really nice musical textures, great production, can't remember a single moment of the music.

    WHEN did we start a peaceful and unified world? You think just because some dudes dropped acid and had a blast in the 60s did it really changed the world?

    Your theory is utter bullshit. It is not Artists job to lead humanity. Hell no.

    Look at Richard Wagner. To me the greatest composer of all time, not even a close second. A raging antisemite. Hitler loved his music, and Hitler himself was a decent artist, his paintings were not bad. Artists are just people. Stop putting them on a pedestal, even if they are geniuses.

    We've just come out of the most peaceful and prosperous periods in the history of Humankind. Have a look at the common themes in popular art and fiction preceding and towards the end of that period.

    Yea the "artist" that gave us this "peace" period was Richard Oppenheimer. Look him up, he had two MEGA hits...

    Ok cool, anyway I'm waiting for the interesting philosophical debate to continue.

    You are full blown delusional lol. It's kinda funny and sad at the same time :D

    Go away.

    Like your ability to think reasonably?

    There are some other adults in this thread who have interesting and varied opinions which they're willing to share in the context of a philosophical discussion. I'd hoped to hear them! Please stop this obnoxious attack and let the discussion continue.

  • @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @hexagonsun83 said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I'm enjoying this interesting discussion, although as the "everyone is awesome" point of view seems to be piling on a little forcefully, I'll share some 'philosophically augmented' opinion from the opposing point of view:

    The ideas represented in art frontrun the collective mind of society.

    Look at the artwork and fiction of any given era and the facts of the following decades. When the subject matter focussed on utopia and the infinite possibility of human ingenuity, we achieved amazing things and started (just started.. ) to build a peaceful and unified world. When fiction focusses on apocalypse and conspiracy, the rot starts to set in. We need a boost, yeah? It's us artists (every single one) on whom that responsibility falls.

    So when artists put out derivative 'Landfill [insert genre here]' content under a carefully crafted business/marketing model (and immaculately sculpted eyebrows), they're not just making content that doesn't contribute towards the furthering of their field, but are also shirking the societal responsibility of art for their own prosperity and egoistical satisfaction. Not that I'm taking a stand against that (we've all got to make a living) but when you choose to use a cultural platform to mass produce 'curated' content with no message beyond "Look at me!" to the widest possible audience you can 'strategically target', you're no longer an artist. You're simply running a business.

    That said though, this is nothing against "Andrew's" (first name terms?? .. ECOOL) work. He's just the businessman to coincidentally fall under the humourous line of fire. I watched a few of his other videos and he has some cool stuff. I like the concepts behind a lot of his work and they very competently uphold modern production 'norms', although his skill as a composer is left me uninspired. I liked his video of a track 'made from water'.. Great concepts, some really nice musical textures, great production, can't remember a single moment of the music.

    WHEN did we start a peaceful and unified world? You think just because some dudes dropped acid and had a blast in the 60s did it really changed the world?

    Your theory is utter bullshit. It is not Artists job to lead humanity. Hell no.

    Look at Richard Wagner. To me the greatest composer of all time, not even a close second. A raging antisemite. Hitler loved his music, and Hitler himself was a decent artist, his paintings were not bad. Artists are just people. Stop putting them on a pedestal, even if they are geniuses.

    We've just come out of the most peaceful and prosperous periods in the history of Humankind. Have a look at the common themes in popular art and fiction preceding and towards the end of that period.

    Yea the "artist" that gave us this "peace" period was Richard Oppenheimer. Look him up, he had two MEGA hits...

    Ok cool, anyway I'm waiting for the interesting philosophical debate to continue.

    You are full blown delusional lol. It's kinda funny and sad at the same time :D

    Go away.

    Like your ability to think reasonably?

    There are some other adults in this thread who have interesting and varied opinions which they're willing to share in the context of a philosophical discussion. I'd hoped to hear them! Please stop this obnoxious attack and let the discussion continue.

    I know that must be hard for you to hear, but you aren't the center of the universe, and this discussion does not revolve around you. And this wasn't an attack, it was a natural reaction to your utter delusional post. The only reason for this what you are calling "peace" is the nuclear bomb, it is that simple. You did nothing to even try to counterargument my post, because you don't have any arguments.

    Get back to reality man!

  • Oscar, you have been heard. There's no profit in arguing with this. The discussion will continue.

    And one last thing: How great to know that someone believes that Wagner is the greatest composer in human history. Saves me so much time. Hex, I wish you a speedy recovery from adolescence or whatever anger issues you are facing.

  • I think I t's cool that everyone has different opinions on this. Personally I think it's cool. He's raising awareness with potential new young "producers" about how to do more with the little cool loops you create on a mobile device. He did it in a fun way and while I didn't learn anything really new per se he did raise my awareness of wretchup with looks like fun.

  • I use cool too much. Please substitute e-cool for one of my above uses.

  • @robertreynolds said:
    I think I t's cool that everyone has different opinions on this. Personally I think it's cool. He's raising awareness with potential new young "producers" about how to do more with the little cool loops you create on a mobile device. He did it in a fun way and while I didn't learn anything really new per se he did raise my awareness of wretchup with looks like fun.

    Yeah that was the best part of the video.

  • @robertreynolds said:
    I use cool too much. Please substitute e-cool for one of my above uses.

    It was assumed. You're among friends.

  • Do we have a resurrection of Inspector Bait?

  • As an older person who has a really tough time finishing songs, partially due to self-doubt setting in before I have time to finish an idea, I am inspired by his fearless believe in himself. Being a terrible singer doesn't stop him from doing it anyway in front of probably hundreds of thousands of people, but here I am unable to finish anything, because it isn't up to some personal standard even though it will never be heard by anybody.

    Anyway, I also got a kick out of him; eyebrows, shiny shoes, painted nails, and all. Not ready to subscribe to his channel, but I watched several of his other videos and enjoy them (for a while).

  • @DeVlaeminck said:
    Do we have a resurrection of Inspector Bait?

    I was wondering the same thing. :/

    Dunno about the jealousy or hating on superficial things (manscaping jokes aside), but there's not much to be learned here about "actually making good music with apps."

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