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Future Drummer by Lumbeat / on sale today 4/9/20!

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  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    Another question, apologies for the bombardment...is it possible to remove/uninstall the onboard sounds ? I may want to keep a single kit for standalone use but will mostly use this with MIDI out.

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    Loving this overall... but a few things:

    1. Crashes a lot now on my iPhone - I can't for example access any user saved grooves without it instantly crashing (also selecting a midi port for midi out crashes it)
    2. I really wish it would remember (or let you save) the midi note configuration you set up for midi-out. It's a real pain having to spend 10mins setting up all the midi notes every time you re-start the app
    3. Strange that the medium strength hit defaults to a midi out velcoity of 127 whereas the full strength hit (the red one) defaults to a midi out hit of 100. Is this is a mistake? (It's another thing you have to change every time you set up midi - which seems like every time you restart the app)
    4. Bit weird that all the factory grooves only use 3 drums (kick, snare and hat) - what about the other two drums?

    Anyone else getting any of these issues?

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Another question, apologies for the bombardment...is it possible to remove/uninstall the onboard sounds ? I may want to keep a single kit for standalone use but will mostly use this with MIDI out.

    haven't seen any way to remove the sounds. but the app itself is extremely small. and you can mute the master volume of the app.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Another question, apologies for the bombardment...is it possible to remove/uninstall the onboard sounds ? I may want to keep a single kit for standalone use but will mostly use this with MIDI out.

    haven't seen any way to remove the sounds. but the app itself is extremely small. and you can mute the master volume of the app.

    It is the space that makes me want to do this, being on a 16Gb device means I have to be very select about which inbuilt samples I have on my device. :|

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

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    @oat_phipps said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    I love the jam and fills features in this, really useful for crap drummers like me. Only thing holding me back is the fact I've got a ton of drum apps already, and it's twenty quid.

    remember that these same jams and fills can be redirected to ruismaker, elastic drummer, gadgets drummers and whatever drum apps you have that have midi input. its awesome for a live context :)

    Are the MIDI out notes assignable or are they restricted to standard MIDI mapping? Man, I wish Patterning had MIDI in since all my good drum samples are in there and it has the best sorting/preview.

    they're assignable. although all notes send to the exact same midi channel (which is selectable)

    Was about to click buy, then saw this....so is it one channel for the whole app ? or a channel for each drum ?

    channel per app sadly :/ still. i worked around this in ruismaker by building my own single drum instances in aum each responding to a single note. this can also be done in gadget by unloading the drum sounds you dont want. so you can still do multitrack drums in either gadget or aum. its still a fantastic tool. and for my volca sample the Mf-Vs works wonders.

    Damn! I want to record the MIDI multitrack, to avoid copying tracks and deleting notes after recording, I guess I would have to use AB3 and Filters to achieve this ?

    Also, is the MIDI sync stable...I would also want to record MIDI into Circuit and having a stable MIDI sync really helps with this....

    im using link mostly and its rock solid. and yes. midifilters should work well for this. along with the mf-adapter. will do some tests myself as soon as i'm able.

    Thanks @gonekrazy3000 , I already have other apps I can use for drum sequencing (patterning), but this has a couple of features that make it very inviting....The JAM feature with MIDI out and being able to change patterns using blueboard, this will make jamming with my guitar and keys a lot more fluid as I wont have to mess around trying to swap patterns with my already busy hands :)

    I really want to use MIDI clock instead of link to get the start stop that Link doesn't have, with guitar in hand, pressing one button to start makes life a lot easier :)

    Midiflow should totaly handle the 'note to a channel' and then 'Link to Midi' for syncng Circuit.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @AudioGus said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    I love the jam and fills features in this, really useful for crap drummers like me. Only thing holding me back is the fact I've got a ton of drum apps already, and it's twenty quid.

    remember that these same jams and fills can be redirected to ruismaker, elastic drummer, gadgets drummers and whatever drum apps you have that have midi input. its awesome for a live context :)

    Are the MIDI out notes assignable or are they restricted to standard MIDI mapping? Man, I wish Patterning had MIDI in since all my good drum samples are in there and it has the best sorting/preview.

    they're assignable. although all notes send to the exact same midi channel (which is selectable)

    Was about to click buy, then saw this....so is it one channel for the whole app ? or a channel for each drum ?

    channel per app sadly :/ still. i worked around this in ruismaker by building my own single drum instances in aum each responding to a single note. this can also be done in gadget by unloading the drum sounds you dont want. so you can still do multitrack drums in either gadget or aum. its still a fantastic tool. and for my volca sample the Mf-Vs works wonders.

    Damn! I want to record the MIDI multitrack, to avoid copying tracks and deleting notes after recording, I guess I would have to use AB3 and Filters to achieve this ?

    Also, is the MIDI sync stable...I would also want to record MIDI into Circuit and having a stable MIDI sync really helps with this....

    im using link mostly and its rock solid. and yes. midifilters should work well for this. along with the mf-adapter. will do some tests myself as soon as i'm able.

    Thanks @gonekrazy3000 , I already have other apps I can use for drum sequencing (patterning), but this has a couple of features that make it very inviting....The JAM feature with MIDI out and being able to change patterns using blueboard, this will make jamming with my guitar and keys a lot more fluid as I wont have to mess around trying to swap patterns with my already busy hands :)

    I really want to use MIDI clock instead of link to get the start stop that Link doesn't have, with guitar in hand, pressing one button to start makes life a lot easier :)

    Midiflow should totaly handle the 'note to a channel' and then 'Link to Midi' for syncng Circuit.

    I don't have MIDIFlow app, just the FX for AB3....I would have to use multiple splitters, is state saving working properly for the splitters ? I got stung by it not working for randomiser or Core Midi adapter after building quite a complex setup for doing this from ModStep......I really want to end up with MIDI as clock source, I know I can use Midi link sync, and i do when i am doing a performance (to myself as i cannot lock the doors to stop the family leaving the room LOL), but it is a bit fiddly when jamming and starting/stopping the midi a lot as it will get out of phase and need to swap to the app to get it back in phase.
    The reason i want to have MIDI as clock source.....Circuit...so I can use the the tempo knob :)

    If the MIDI sync in Future Drummer works fine then all is happy days on that front :)

  • realdavidairealdavidai
    • Can't get this to sync with anything at all
    • Crashes frequently

    Back burner for now

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo

    @AndyPlankton it's got the smallest footprint of all his drum apps. 121 MB vs 386 MB for SoftDrummer. MIDI out is worth it as well as the Jam feature especially if you don't have any of his other apps.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @audiblevideo said:
    @AndyPlankton it's got the smallest footprint of all his drum apps. 121 MB vs 386 MB for SoftDrummer. MIDI out is worth it as well as the Jam feature especially if you don't have any of his other apps.

    Thanks for the info, that is small enough to handle....I do have funk drummer so it is really the Jam direct to MIDI Out that is the selling point for me....just need some happy stories about MIDI sync now and I'm convinced :)

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    @realdavidai said:

    • Can't get this to sync with anything at all
    • Crashes frequently

    Back burner for now

    strange. what device are you on ? do you mean that ableton link doesn't work ?

  • wimwim

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @audiblevideo said:
    @AndyPlankton it's got the smallest footprint of all his drum apps. 121 MB vs 386 MB for SoftDrummer. MIDI out is worth it as well as the Jam feature especially if you don't have any of his other apps.

    Thanks for the info, that is small enough to handle....I do have funk drummer so it is really the Jam direct to MIDI Out that is the selling point for me....just need some happy stories about MIDI sync now and I'm convinced :)

    The setup for the midi out mapping is a pain in the ass. The selectors for the notes are difficult to get the right note set. There appears to be only one setting, so if you have multiple target apps that each need different note mapping you'd have to set it up each time. State saving in AB3 doesn't work, so no help there.

    I haven't experienced the problem of needing to set up midi note mapping each time the app is restarted though. Maybe that only happens if the app crashes.

    MidiFlow remapping is probably a must in order to use the midi out practically with a number of other apps.

    That said, I'm glad enough to have this app. It's worth it to break out of the rut I've gotten into with my Electronic Drum sequences, and the amount of time it takes to set up fills and variation.

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    @wim said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @audiblevideo said:
    @AndyPlankton it's got the smallest footprint of all his drum apps. 121 MB vs 386 MB for SoftDrummer. MIDI out is worth it as well as the Jam feature especially if you don't have any of his other apps.

    Thanks for the info, that is small enough to handle....I do have funk drummer so it is really the Jam direct to MIDI Out that is the selling point for me....just need some happy stories about MIDI sync now and I'm convinced :)

    The setup for the midi out mapping is a pain in the ass. The selectors for the notes are difficult to get the right note set. There appears to be only one setting, so if you have multiple target apps that each need different note mapping you'd have to set it up each time. State saving in AB3 doesn't work, so no help there.

    I haven't experienced the problem of needing to set up midi note mapping each time the app is restarted though. Maybe that only happens if the app crashes.

    MidiFlow remapping is probably a must in order to use the midi out practically with a number of other apps.

    That said, I'm glad enough to have this app. It's worth it to break out of the rut I've gotten into with my Electronic Drum sequences, and the amount of time it takes to set up fills and variation.

    Well. The default mapping is gm midi. I just switched ruismaker to gm midi and was ready to go instantly. Gadgets reciefe also accepts the mapping as is immediately.

  • DchildDchild

    Regarding the note config not saving, could you not just use the Transposer midi flow affect, and save the preset in AB3. Pretty sure Transposer has state saving?

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @wim said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @audiblevideo said:
    @AndyPlankton it's got the smallest footprint of all his drum apps. 121 MB vs 386 MB for SoftDrummer. MIDI out is worth it as well as the Jam feature especially if you don't have any of his other apps.

    Thanks for the info, that is small enough to handle....I do have funk drummer so it is really the Jam direct to MIDI Out that is the selling point for me....just need some happy stories about MIDI sync now and I'm convinced :)

    The setup for the midi out mapping is a pain in the ass. The selectors for the notes are difficult to get the right note set. There appears to be only one setting, so if you have multiple target apps that each need different note mapping you'd have to set it up each time. State saving in AB3 doesn't work, so no help there.

    I haven't experienced the problem of needing to set up midi note mapping each time the app is restarted though. Maybe that only happens if the app crashes.

    MidiFlow remapping is probably a must in order to use the midi out practically with a number of other apps.

    That said, I'm glad enough to have this app. It's worth it to break out of the rut I've gotten into with my Electronic Drum sequences, and the amount of time it takes to set up fills and variation.

    Well. The default mapping is gm midi. I just switched ruismaker to gm midi and was ready to go instantly. Gadgets reciefe also accepts the mapping as is immediately.

    I'm holding fire until the state saving is sorted.....then I'm letting loose..until then, back to what I was doing before....

  • wimwim
    edited April 2017

    @Dchild said:
    Regarding the note config not saving, could you not just use the Transposer midi flow affect, and save the preset in AB3. Pretty sure Transposer has state saving?

    That transposes all notes by semitones. It would need something that can transpose each note to an arbitrary target. This is something I hope very much @JohannesD is considering making.

  • jefflovvjefflovv

    I haven't been able to get any midi out of the app on my IPhone 6 Plus. I set up midiflow adapter as a midi input in AB3, set the midi out of Future Drummer to an MF adapter input and set Ruismaker as the midi out in AB3, but don't get anything. Is my setup wrong?

  • DchildDchild

    @wim said:

    @Dchild said:
    Regarding the note config not saving, could you not just use the Transposer midi flow affect, and save the preset in AB3. Pretty sure Transposer has state saving?

    That transposes all notes by semitones. It would need something that can transpose each note to an arbitrary target. This is something I hope very much @JohannesD is considering making.

    What about the splitter device?

  • DchildDchild

    @jefflovv said:
    I haven't been able to get any midi out of the app on my IPhone 6 Plus. I set up midiflow adapter as a midi input in AB3, set the midi out of Future Drummer to an MF adapter input and set Ruismaker as the midi out in AB3, but don't get anything. Is my setup wrong?

    I'm having the same problem. Looks like midi out isn't working when you select the adapter port

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    @Dchild said:

    @jefflovv said:
    I haven't been able to get any midi out of the app on my IPhone 6 Plus. I set up midiflow adapter as a midi input in AB3, set the midi out of Future Drummer to an MF adapter input and set Ruismaker as the midi out in AB3, but don't get anything. Is my setup wrong?

    I'm having the same problem. Looks like midi out isn't working when you select the adapter port

    Seems like it might be a problem with ab3 midi. Even zMors port doesn't work through the adapter. For now I'm using modstep to route the midi.

  • wimwim

    Future drummer in AB3 audio input with Future Drummer set to its own Virtual out to
    Midiflow input with Note mapping to
    MidiFlow adapter in AB3 Midi input to
    Ruismaker or Ruismaker FM in the AB3 Midi Output

    Had fun for a couple hours and then went back to the internal kits and decided I liked that way a whole lot better.

    But ... it works.

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000
    edited April 2017

    @wim said:
    Future drummer in AB3 audio input with Future Drummer set to its own Virtual out to
    Midiflow input with Note mapping to
    MidiFlow adapter in AB3 Midi input to
    Ruismaker or Ruismaker FM in the AB3 Midi Output

    Had fun for a couple hours and then went back to the internal kits and decided I liked that way a whole lot better.

    But ... it works.

    Any chance you could share the ab3 preset ?

    Edit:- Never mind. I though you had managed to filter out each note to separate ruismakers. Ignore my request :)

  • kobamotokobamoto

    I guess if it had sample import midi out issues would have a nice work around :( but I digress

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    i agree with sample import being needed in this app. the sound selection is just a tad too small for electronic music. @LuisMartinez could we please get sample import ? more than any of your other apps this definitely needs it. i have tons of amazing sounds in audioshare. would very much like to use them in this brilliant app.

  • BartlinuxBartlinux

    When I load FD in Aum, set Midi out to aum, it crashs every time, can someone confirm?

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    @Bartlinux said:
    When I load FD in Aum, set Midi out to aum, it crashs every time, can someone confirm?

    confirmed. For now inside aum set it to listen to FD's port. It works fine that way.

  • BartlinuxBartlinux

    Yes, thanks

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000
    edited April 2017

    Lots of posts! Just caught up a little bit.

    Tempted, but could someone tell me, is this only worth it if you want 'Rock Drums' or are there other styles like Funk, Dub, 'Latin' styles, Drum and Bass, House etc?

    And does it create intelligent fills and variations like Garage Band or Luiz's apps?

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Lots of posts! Just caught up a little bit.

    Tempted, but could someone tell me, is this only worth it if you want 'Rock Drums' or are there other styles like Funk, Dub, 'Latin' styles, Drum and Bass, House etc?

    And does it create intelligent fills and variations like Garage Band or Luiz's apps?

    It has what you seek Master 2K

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    @AudioGus said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Lots of posts! Just caught up a little bit.

    Tempted, but could someone tell me, is this only worth it if you want 'Rock Drums' or are there other styles like Funk, Dub, 'Latin' styles, Drum and Bass, House etc?

    And does it create intelligent fills and variations like Garage Band or Luiz's apps?

    It has what you seek Master 2K

    Really. Cool. Thanks 'Gus. Gonna hit buy then....

    I only just bought Future Drummer (brilliant). But I'm getting really into 'intelligent drum apps'.

    Do you have FD?

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Lots of posts! Just caught up a little bit.

    Tempted, but could someone tell me, is this only worth it if you want 'Rock Drums' or are there other styles like Funk, Dub, 'Latin' styles, Drum and Bass, House etc?

    And does it create intelligent fills and variations like Garage Band or Luiz's apps?

    It has what you seek Master 2K

    Really. Cool. Thanks 'Gus. Gonna hit buy then....

    I only just bought Future Drummer (brilliant). But I'm getting really into 'intelligent drum apps'.

    Do you have FD?

    Yes, I love sending it to NI Battery on my laptop.

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