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Old thread but hard to find something here....
It looks like a great physical modeling synth called Respiro will get an iOS player.
Yes, a player only so far but maybe someday it will be more.
I guess again it has more to do with the market and app prices since the engine seems to run fine on iOS then.
Check it out here for more info: https://www.imoxplus.com/site/
Lagrange from IceGear includes a few PM oscillator types..
(Plucked, Struck and Bowed Strings, Blow Pipe, Breath).
https://icegear.net/lagrange/
SpringSound
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/springsound/id866583243
New kids on the block: miRack and Drambo.
Haven't read through this thread, but Roli Noise has a lot of these kind of sounds, just a huge pity it's not more tweakable.
Gimme an app/synth that does this kind of physical modeling synthesis accurately, I'm serious!
This can be done with Logic Sculpture, although you’ll probably need more than one preset to approximate this, obviously…
I'll give it a spin, it's one of the 'deepest' synths in Logic and a good source for happy accidents
Now why didn't I think about that...
It actually sounds quite like a reed instrument to me
even though the action is more akin to a bowed string.
I can understand from a business model, why the SWAM instruments are each a very particular instrument. But I don't see why they or somebody wouldn't make a kind of , say, super-brass or super-string modeled synth that lets us play a wider note range and timbres. To allow some play in the sound construction.
Pianoteq has this ability with their modeled pianos; you can create very unusual instruments.
Completely agree. You should be able to go “off model” as much as you like. How would you like to play around with a violin as large as a canoe? Or a sousaphone resized for a mouse?
Definitely.... I know someone who tried to convince audio modeling to go down this route, they had their own vision and refused to take the idea on board. At least you can use fx on these to come up with your own unusual instruments.
Been there… heard something slightly different.
Lele told me that AM was open to this kind of thing… in the future, at some point, after having catered to their core audience (keyboard-based scorers, basically).
I can’t. Not with their approach to UX, workflow, etc.
The controls and such aren’t meant to make each instrument distinctive. They’re meant not to surprise their existing customers.
Also, PM allows for a lot more “particularity” than they have in each instrument. (In other words, you could possibly have a soprano sax which sounds like John Coltrane or a trumpet which sounds like Miles Davis. With SWAM versions, you get a generic instrument that you can tweak just so it can be a generic “Jazz” instrument…)
Tera Pro en Teraverse from VirSyn. These will suit your needs.
Apart from Sculpture, the obvious PM synth for this kind of thing would be AAS’s Chromaphone. Less obvious yet completely legit for this type of use is Rhizomatic’s Plasmonic (from Absynth creator Brian Clevinger). I also feel like you should be able to create something similar in Respiro.
Now, there’s a lot of subtlety in PM. You might end up with a sound which is completely different yet achieves the same overall effect. Or something remarkably similar which misses this one thing you need to satisfy your ears. So, tweaking might be needed.
Still thinking about this…
One way to put it is that SWAM instruments are like Yamaha’s student models, for band instruments. Not that you can’t play good music with them. Or that they “don’t sound like real instruments”. It’s mostly that they don’t respond so well, aren’t that flexible in terms of timbre, and don’t have much of a personality.
All of which may be fine when you’re scoring “orchestral-sounding” music and bump into the limitations of sampled instruments. Not fun when you want a software instrument that you can perform and adapt to your own personality.
Since I started this thread, there’s been some movement in the PM scene. There are now three implementations of SWAM instruments on iPadOS (those in ROLI Noise, those in GeoShred, and a bunch of first-party apps/plugins from Audio Modelling itself). Respiro came out on desktop and now has a companion app on iPadOS. Other desktop apps came out (like Plasmonic). And there’s new hardware like Aodyo’s Anyma Phi (along with a bunch of modules based on Émilie Gillet’s work). PM techniques are doable on a number of synths (including Drambo and such). There’s a bit more work done with these.
There’s still a lot of room in this space. We still don’t have the ideal PM synth on iPadOS. A lot of PM available tend to revolve around plucked (typically Karplus-Strong) and percussion (modal) sounds. It also remains quite difficult to do the sound design necessary for each PM patch we might want. And PM remains misunderstood.
All this to say… This small thread might remain somewhat relevant for a while.
Strange....Finger Fiddle is still the best for me for this kind of sinister string sounds, especially for live performance.
But sadly it was never developed further and since 3-D touch is also not a thing anymore it lost some fun.
Plasmonic is by far my favourite modelling tool, would fit nice (with an updated GUI) on a large iPad.
It is just the most alive synth I played with yet. Even the strange noises are kind of musical.
I see a number of suggestions here but has anyone tried to actually make a sound like in the crazy video @samu posted?
I do know Sculpture, Chromaphone, Tera Pro, Teraverse but I'm quite sure you won't get any sound close to the ones in the video out of them, although I'd love to be proven wrong.
@Clueless Thanks for suggesting Plasmonic, I didn't know that one! 😃
And indeed, I find Finger Fiddle quite good at bowed sound emulation and playability.
Sculpture is really good for what is done in the video. Prism and Chromaphone might fit too.
Since it is going into the Halloween saison i am right into these sounds yet again.
From all the tools I have I would say Sculpture is the best bet for this. But important to use also a proper reverb for the right acoustic touch.
Plasmonic is just incredible. Easily my favourite synth ever. Would love an ipad version.
Yes, mine too (together with P900 and Alchemy).
Most of the default presets also just scratch what it can do. It can do so much more. I have not much time for music these days but Plasmonic is still a must from time to time.