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Is the electric guitar dead?

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  • @JeffChasteen said:
    "Wagner of rock" is a nice title for him.

    . _"It was long ago and it was faraway,
    And it was so much better than it is today."
    _

    • Paradise by Dashboard Light - Meatloaf.
  • To me it's about good music & bad music. If someone says I don't like Zeppelin, Clapton, Metallica, Joe Satriani, etc. because they think it's bad music, fine.

    But if it's disqualified as "that's shit" because it's guitar driven music I think that's foolish. Dismissal of an entire genre or instrument is short sighted. I'm not a huge hip hop/rap fan but loved Nate Dogg and Dr. Dre's production; don't care for pop country but older Willie Nelson "Red Headed Stranger" era stuff is incredibe.

    It's like racism. There's far too many reasons to dislike someone individually than to write off an entire seqment of the population.

    Guitar isn't going anywhere. If it isn't your cup of tea there's plenty of others in the cupboard...

  • both gibson and fender are in apparent financial trouble

  • @vpich said:
    both gibson and fender are in apparent financial trouble

    Yes but, Chibson and Chender are doing fine.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @vpich said:
    both gibson and fender are in apparent financial trouble

    Yes but, Chibson and Chender are doing fine.

    Love my chibson

  • edited July 2017

    @vpich said:

    If I put my ear up close to that photo, I can hear the main riff to “Outside Woman Blues.”

  • edited July 2017

    @JRSIV said:
    To me it's about good music & bad music. If someone says I don't like Zeppelin, Clapton, Metallica, Joe Satriani, etc. because they think it's bad music, fine.

    But if it's disqualified as "that's shit" because it's guitar driven music I think that's foolish. Dismissal of an entire genre or instrument is short sighted. I'm not a huge hip hop/rap fan but loved Nate Dogg and Dr. Dre's production; don't care for pop country but older Willie Nelson "Red Headed Stranger" era stuff is incredibe.

    It's like racism. There's far too many reasons to dislike someone individually than to write off an entire seqment of the population.

    Guitar isn't going anywhere. If it isn't your cup of tea there's plenty of others in the cupboard...

    Good post @JRSIV

    Many instruments/sounds come in and out of fashion, but electric guitar remains a constant, just for the sheer frill of it's liveliness and variables.
    Filters and fx keep it relevant. Many would be surprised about some sounds on modern songs that are created on guitar, then put through filters that make it sound nothing like a guitar.
    It's all about the song, the innovation and the passion

  • @kgmessier said:

    @vpich said:

    If I put my ear up close to that photo, I can hear the main riff to “Outside Woman Blues.”

    In the right hands it could do the main riff of just about anything. Not my hands of course.

  • Funnily enough I've just got back into playing mine after a couple of years of bass work, and I seem to be coming up with a whole new bunch of stuff and playing better than ever. Just a lovely, calming feeling being able to pick it up and noodle away. Buying a guitar as a teenager was one of the best things I ever did.

  • @JRSIV said:
    To me it's about good music & bad music. If someone says I don't like Zeppelin, Clapton, Metallica, Joe Satriani, etc. because they think it's bad music, fine.

    But if it's disqualified as "that's shit" because it's guitar driven music I think that's foolish. Dismissal of an entire genre or instrument is short sighted. I'm not a huge hip hop/rap fan but loved Nate Dogg and Dr. Dre's production; don't care for pop country but older Willie Nelson "Red Headed Stranger" era stuff is incredibe.

    It's like racism. There's far too many reasons to dislike someone individually than to write off an entire seqment of the population.

    Guitar isn't going anywhere. If it isn't your cup of tea there's plenty of others in the cupboard...

    The beatles were passed up early on because "guitar music was on the way out".

    So many subgenres in all music. I find it so hard to explain the types of electronic music i like hearing and making because there's so much. I hate edm with a passion and find myself at a loss of words explaining the difference between techno genres. But guitar sales ARE down. Making music alone is so much easier than dealing with a band. And figuring out software is way easier than dominating a guitar. But If push came to shove the last piece of music gear that gets pried out of my dead hands is my taylor acoustic i have had for 20 years.

  • No. And you can help keep it alive. Play "Limelight." Alex Lifeson will show you how. (Seriously, if you're a guitarist, this is what my son would call LIT :sunglasses:):

  • No.
    Despite my best efforts.
    "Baby, don't you know that I hurt you so only because I love you so?"

  • edited August 2017

    @JRSIV said:
    It's like racism. There's far too many reasons to dislike someone individually than to write off an entire seqment of the population.

    Sure. I find something to like in most genres. With rap and hip hop, I'm much more in tune with the early inspirational people, such as Gil Scott Heron or even LL Cool J. Mainly because they mixed melody with words that meant something, and to which all ages and ethnicities could relate. Latter day exponents became more focussed on an area or issue pertinent to them and theirs.

    As for the old gods of the guitar, while I respect their place in music history, and their masterworks, some have been living on fumes for 40 years, and these days couldn't write a great song to save their lives. Yet more current exponents struggle for air play while being as good. Sometimes better.

    For example, my all time favourite guitarist is Jeff Healey, who few have heard about, despite recording a long version of 'All Along The Watchtower' which, for me, was much better than the constantly played Hendrix classic.

    https://youtu.be/Ah5Hs770twM

  • @vpich said:
    The beatles were passed up early on because "guitar music was on the way out".

    Great point. The infamous Dick James line, "Guitar groups are dead, Brian."

    Or as Dick Jaws put it in The Rutles, "They asked to see my door, but I wouldn't show it to them." :p

  • @Zen210507 Jeff Healey! My god, he got some notoriety through some Patrick Swayze film (I'm betting that's the first time HIS name has been mentioned on the forum, lol) but he deserved better than that.

    Blind cat who played guitar like Stevie Wonder played clav. Just drenched in talent.

    @vpich You're right the numbers on guitar are down but in my previous comment in the early part of this thread awhile back before it was bumped kind of explained my take on capitalism "success" variables.

    I will say this: there are scores of products & services that compete with guitar/musical instruments in general. A 16 year old kid can spend $500 on a MIM Strat and an amp but many today choose to spend that $500 on a PlayStation 4 and a few games, and then the PlayStation also has Netflix, HBO Go, etc. i.e. more entertainment choices.

    I believe there's also something to be said for the huge increases in quality that the foreign suppliers began turning out in the early '90's. My favorite guitar is my '91 MIM Strat. Although the Ensenada factory had just opened that year and rumor has it finished & completed assembly on US bodies & necks early on, the MIM's are an amazing value. The new one's made today are outstanding as well so there isn't as much turnover with people buying new ones out of necessity.

  • @JRSIV said:
    Blind cat who played guitar like Stevie Wonder played clav. Just drenched in talent.

    Yeah. Man can't see what he's doing, yet plays with such feeling and sings blue-eyed soul style. Such a pity he passed away. :'(

  • @JRSIV said:
    @Zen210507 Jeff Healey! My god, he got some notoriety through some Patrick Swayze film (I'm betting that's the first time HIS name has been mentioned on the forum, lol) but he deserved better than that.

    Blind cat who played guitar like Stevie Wonder played clav. Just drenched in talent.

    @vpich You're right the numbers on guitar are down but in my previous comment in the early part of this thread awhile back before it was bumped kind of explained my take on capitalism "success" variables.

    I will say this: there are scores of products & services that compete with guitar/musical instruments in general. A 16 year old kid can spend $500 on a MIM Strat and an amp but many today choose to spend that $500 on a PlayStation 4 and a few games, and then the PlayStation also has Netflix, HBO Go, etc. i.e. more entertainment choices.

    I believe there's also something to be said for the huge increases in quality that the foreign suppliers began turning out in the early '90's. My favorite guitar is my '91 MIM Strat. Although the Ensenada factory had just opened that year and rumor has it finished & completed assembly on US bodies & necks early on, the MIM's are an amazing value. The new one's made today are outstanding as well so there isn't as much turnover with people buying new ones out of necessity.

    Road House!
    I have some friends who belong to the Road House camp cult, but it has never clicked for me.
    Mandingo, Showgirls, and The Room on the other hand, though...

  • No... but my strings are!

  • @rcf said:
    No... but my strings are!

    :D I hate to change mine til they snap! I know they're supposed to sound brighter when new, but life is too short.

  • rcfrcf
    edited August 2017

    That's what decent flatwounds are for; I've had a set on one of my instruments for 2.5 years lol ;-) I don't like particularly like 'brighter' strings; though once they refuse to stay in tune, or intonate properly, then I'll reluctantly junk them.

  • Far too clean... I could almost eat my dinner off it ;-)

  • I feel there's a subtle message/lesson from Johnny happening in the last post, which I am failing to see. Does it have anything to do with Thomas Crapper, god (not that I'm a believer) rest his soul?

  • That's one mean, clean, latrine...so...

    Meet me in the John, John.... :o

  • LH drive as well... I've never flushed with my left hand before.

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