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  • null____voidnull____void

    @MonzoPro said:
    The victims in all this rise and fall stuff are the musicians, who've spent years building profiles and friendships. I had a few thousand followers on MySpace - gone. Now built up a thousand on my main Soundcloud account - soon to be gone it seems. Starting from scratch with YouTube or whatever the latest thing is, is such a depressing prospect I doubt I'll bother, I'll probably just fire off my weirdness into the void.

    [Winking Emoji IRL]

  • hazardtearshazardtears
    edited July 2017

    @Zen210507 said:

    @hazardtears said:
    Orfium's been around for almost a year now and nothing has happened so i guess it's safe to say it's over, no?

    >

    Not until the fat lady sings. ;)

    Some people are using Orfium. Just not _en-mas_s, but then, familiarity and brand awareness is how the mega corporations dominate, not because they are necessarily any good. Even Giants can fall.

    A year is a very short time when building an on-line business and attempting to prize people away from the familiar. The SoundCloud model is failing, so maybe there is yet time enough fir something better. Be that Orfium, or a company yet to begin their rise.

    well, all the music i could find was very limited in style and number of tunes, and the same songs were on most of the charts. I get that some people might use it but after spending a good amount of time looking around, it seemed really hopeless. Since i dont have any stake in this, i'd gladly be proven wrong. Perhaps you could give some concrete examples of its features that have gotten traction? Do you use it yourself?

    Also, anyone can see for themselves how some of the same tracks are featured in different genres, and how featured tracks have merely tens of listens. Here: https://www.orfium.com/music/

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited July 2017

    @hazardtears said:

    Perhaps you could give some concrete examples of its features that have gotten traction? Do you use it yourself?

    Yes, a band I'm associated with is on Orfium, and other sites. But I honestly don't have the time or interest in convincing anyone to use the site. No offence intended. :) If you don't like what you see - I understand the shortcomings - then move on.

    FWIW, I agree with you as to the track rotation, and that much more promo needs to be done.

  • u0421793u0421793
    edited July 2017

    @MonzoPro said:
    The victims in all this rise and fall stuff are the musicians, who've spent years building profiles and friendships. I had a few thousand followers on MySpace - gone. Now built up a thousand on my main Soundcloud account - soon to be gone it seems. Starting from scratch with YouTube or whatever the latest thing is, is such a depressing prospect I doubt I'll bother, I'll probably just fire off my weirdness into the void.

  • hazardtearshazardtears

    @Zen210507 said:

    @hazardtears said:

    Perhaps you could give some concrete examples of its features that have gotten traction? Do you use it yourself?

    Yes, a band I'm associated with is on Orfium, and other sites. But I honestly don't have the time or interest in convincing anyone to use the site. No offence intended. :) If you don't like what you see - I understand the shortcomings - then move on.

    FWIW, I agree with you as to the track rotation, and that much more promo needs to be done.

    yeah i get that you dont want to bother, but since you brought it up, i really wanted to know more. so if anyone here has any more experiences abt it, would love to hear!
    anyway, let's see what happens :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited July 2017

    @hazardtears said:
    yeah i get that you dont want to bother, but since you brought it up,p

    >

    Actually, I don't want to 'bother' because I'm getting over major surgery, and having a rough patch. You are perfectly capable of doing your own research. Good luck.

  • KühlKühl

    Actually, I don't want to 'bother' because I'm getting over major surgery, and having a rough patch. You are perfectly capable of doing your own research. Good luck.

    I wish you a speedy recovery

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Kühl said:
    I wish you a speedy recovery

    Thanks, Kühl.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Zen210507 said:

    @hazardtears said:
    yeah i get that you dont want to bother, but since you brought it up,p

    >

    Actually, I don't want to 'bother' because I'm getting over major surgery, and having a rough patch. You are perfectly capable of doing your own research. Good luck.

    Ouch. :open_mouth: Get well soon. :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Ouch. :open_mouth: Get well soon. :)

    >

    Hopefully, the latest nonsense is just a hicup. Thanks for your good wishes.

  • RUST( i )KRUST( i )K

    @Cib said:
    They killed the great app and replaced it for that crap.
    They killed the better old desktop version.
    Then they killed the groups and it's also full of spam and scam.
    Soundcrap!

    It sucks that 90% of messages I get are fake get listener crap with pics of 16 girls.............

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @u0421793 said:
    Garageband ios will do a direct upload to youtube, which is an interesting decision. Do any other apps do this?

    Yes...Launchpad

  • realdavidairealdavidai

    Maybe there could be a SOMTC playlist on YouTube? Is this possible @richardyot ?

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @realdavidai said:
    Maybe there could be a SOMTC playlist on YouTube? Is this possible @richardyot ?

    maybe, but I don't know how to do it.

  • supadomsupadom

    Bring in the robots

  • supadomsupadom

    @5pinlink said:

    @Lady_App_titude said:
    During the waning years of a mega media corporation where I worked for nearly 20 years, as we were watching the “digital revolution” begin to do to print media what it had in just a few years earlier done to record companies and the music industry, and how the “freemium” business model of “give away today monetize later “ was empty calorie economics destined to fail, one of my colleagues, a creative director, came up with this quote that I think perfectly sums up what we have seen time and time again during this era:

    “Nothing is more costly than something given away for free.”
    -- Jerome Sala

    Sorry, i am calling nonsense on this, Reaper uses the very model you say cant work, for the record, it is now one of the most used and most respected DAW softwares available, just because somebody said a notable quote does not make it true ;)

    I think quotes still stand their own ground it's just hard to apply them to today's world anymore. There's plenty of examples of lucrative freemium software but freemium is definitely not free so I wouldn't necessarily used the above quote for this.

  • u0421793u0421793

    640KB

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @RustiK said:

    @Cib said:
    They killed the great app and replaced it for that crap.
    They killed the better old desktop version.
    Then they killed the groups and it's also full of spam and scam.
    Soundcrap!

    It sucks that 90% of messages I get are fake get listener crap with pics of 16 girls.............

    Do you mean those girls aren't really digging my drone excursions topped with serial killer samples?
    Say it ain't so!

  • Lady_App_titudeLady_App_titude

    @5pinlink said:

    Sorry, i am calling nonsense on this, Reaper uses the very model you say cant work, for the record, it is now one of the most used and most respected DAW softwares available, just because somebody said a notable quote does not make it true ;)

    Didn't mean to suggest that it CAN'T work. On the contrary, it is the few high profile cases where it does work that serve as inspirational myth for the thousands that fail. As for Reaper, I don't if it is profitable or not, or how many years of losses might have had to be sustained in pursuit of hollow goals like "market share" or "branding" before it started being profitable. But surely one can think of better examples.

    In the case of the quote, we were talking specifically about Facebook and other "fake FREE" type models, where the people who think of themselves as the customer are actually the product. But when I read things like this Soundcloud story, a situation where you have music available for free from musicians who don't get paid, I find myself reflecting on that quote, however much it may nor may not perfectly apply to any and all e-commerce situations.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited July 2017
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  • High5deniedHigh5denied

    @Zen210507 said:
    Soundcloud is rubbish anyway. Orfium is the future, maybe.

    https://orfium.com/

    This site looks interesting. Simple and effective. So, this is where it's at now?

  • High5deniedHigh5denied

    @rickwaugh said:
    Folks, companies are not charity organizations. They are there to make money. If they are publically traded, (not sure if Soundcloud is,) they are required by law to do their damnedest to make money, to protect the shareholders interest. They are not some altruitistic charity for musicians.

    We all want cheap (read free) hosting, with millions of ears. That model doesn't make money. As to "monopolies", give me a break. They thrive because people use them. There is no end of other attempts to be the social media king. We made these things the way they are, because they do the things we want them to do.

    Excellent post sir.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited July 2017

    @rickwaugh said:
    As to "monopolies", give me a break. They thrive because people use them. There is no end of other attempts to be the social media king. We made these things the way they are, because they do the things we want them to do.

    Not strictly true. The big web companies thrive courtesy of a nurtured environment provided by other big web companies (or other facets of their own).

    The internet is not a level playing field. Like any other form of enterprise it's who, not what, you know. Might have been different 10 or 15 years ago, but it ain't now.

  • TrentsongsTrentsongs

    I've been getting emails from a service called "Songspace". Is anyone familiar?

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