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New iPad Pro 12.9” (2017) - problem with latency and digital noise... SEEMS TO BE FIXED iOS 11.1 b2

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  • edited August 2017

    I'm almost sure it's a software issue... Incidentally, I haven't had an issue since the last time I posted, only BM 3 bugs.

  • edited August 2017

    @animal said:
    I hate to say it, but this problem doesn't seem to be happening only on the new devices. I've had the latency-and -crackling-issues time and again with Air2, as well as with Pro9.7, in my case mostly with interface connected (kmix/ICM4+). Recently I also noticed issues with latency just switching Apps (it takes a moment to actually graphically represent the switch). And yesterday Logic on my Macbook Pro played up on me, taking various seconds to show newly instantiated Auxiliary-busses.... . I don't own any of the new iPad Models, but my experiences seem very similar to what everybody here goes through.

    Unplugging/replugging, hard reset, reboot only work sometimes. No networking, no Wlan, no Bluetooth is activated.

    The bad news is, it seems to be a thing more widespread, the good news is, this will also make it more obvious, and fixes will be in place sooner (i believe).

    Headaches, but then again, it's nice outside, and I try to take it as a sign to shut down devices, look at gardens and skies and use my feet and breathing organs for a while.... .

    Cheers, t

    so wierd. i get none of that on either the headphones or my Ica4+. Air2 64gb on ios 10.3.2.

  • edited August 2017

    Sounds like fake news/rumours to me. That this should be a general problem, that is.

    Never experienced anything like the behaviour described in this thead on any of my decices (Air2, Mini2, Ipad4, + Iphones 5s, 6 and SE).

    The IOS audio system has got a solid head start, beeing the only mobile OS with an acceptable latency. Which is basically why we are here.Could it really be true, that Apple woud ignore a major flaw in their PRO line due to the fact that (IOS musickers) we are an insignificant minority, even if they could get away with it (legally).

    Hoping that some major/influental player brings the issues to common knowledge somehow. And bring on some clarification.

    Currently I'm staying on the fence till this is acknowleged/sorted.

    Just my 2 cents.

  • @DeVlaeminck - Your opinion is quite surprising. We have not decided to make fake news about our real experience.

  • edited August 2017

    @Voicey said:
    @DeVlaeminck - Your opinion is quite surprising. We have not decided to make fake news about our real experience.

    Agreed. So you have hands on experienced the latency bug with non pro iDevices?

  • @DeVlaeminck said:

    @Voicey said:
    @DeVlaeminck - Your opinion is quite surprising. We have not decided to make fake news about our real experience.

    Agreed. So you have hands on experianced the latency bug with non pro iDevices?

    Just to clear some facts here:

    I was the guy that started this thread, and, yes, my NEW iPad Pro 12.9" is behaving strange (the latency bla bla bla)...

    BUT, my old iPad Pro 12.9" has NOT this kind of problem, or any other issue with the music apps!
    I've been in front of my old 12.9" more than 2000 hours since late 2015, and, that must be pretty enough to be sure that this latency thing belongs to the AX10 iPads...

  • @ErrkaPetti said:

    @DeVlaeminck said:

    @Voicey said:
    @DeVlaeminck - Your opinion is quite surprising. We have not decided to make fake news about our real experience.

    Agreed. So you have hands on experianced the latency bug with non pro iDevices?

    Just to clear some facts here:

    I was the guy that started this thread, and, yes, my NEW iPad Pro 12.9" is behaving strange (the latency bla bla bla)...

    BUT, my old iPad Pro 12.9" has NOT this kind of problem, or any other issue with the music apps!
    I've been in front of my old 12.9" more than 2000 hours since late 2015, and, that must be pretty enough to be sure that this latency thing belongs to the AX10 iPads...

    Exactly what I thought. Thanks Errka.

  • edited August 2017

    Skiphunt reported latency using the Pen on an old drawing app, but not on a recently updated one. The problem seems to be general on the Pro2, ie not just audio latency - and to be app related.

    I didn't notice lag on my Air2 or ipad3, but didn't look for it either.

  • edited August 2017

    Please ignore this post. I am being blind. Carry on :)

  • iOS 11 beta 5 is out... would be interested to hear if any devs can test the audio issues

  • edited August 2017

    @Voicey said:
    Skiphunt reported latency using the Pen on an old drawing app, but not on a recently updated one. The problem seems to be general on the Pro2, ie not just audio latency - and to be app related.

    I didn't notice lag on my Air2 or ipad3, but didn't look for it either.

    An update on this observation specifically... I think it's just a bug in the ArtRage app. I'm not seeing anything similar in any of my other drawing apps. I only mentioned it because it's an extreme lag that wasn't related to audio. And it's only when I'm drawing at full screen. Zoomed in there's no lag at all. All other drawing apps work perfectly.

    I don't think it's evidence of anything other than ArtRage has a bug. It was updated last in May, so I'm betting there's a 10.5 screen res update already in the works.

  • Wow, that's something. Tried to let everybody know my personal experiences, and its marked as "fake news". Guess I won't take the time anymore to post, since I feel less and less inclined to participate. Will lurk further, and try to ignore the growing unfriendliness around.
    Cheers, t

  • edited August 2017

    Hey animal! We're all frieds, fiends... oops friends :-)

    Skiphunt, the art bug code may have some common aspect with the audio bug. I don't think it's irrelevant.

  • @animal said:
    Wow, that's something. Tried to let everybody know my personal experiences, and its marked as "fake news". Guess I won't take the time anymore to post, since I feel less and less inclined to participate. Will lurk further, and try to ignore the growing unfriendliness around.
    Cheers, t

    Sorry if I offended you. I can see that my statements was out of order. I appologize!
    Was only trying to keep the general problems with cracks, pops and latency from the specific problems with the new pro's.
    Peace.

  • I contacted Tim Webb from discchord.com and he'll also be looking into the problem also which is great as he'll publicise his personal findings on his very popular blog site

  • @DeVlaeminck said:

    @animal said:
    Wow, that's something. Tried to let everybody know my personal experiences, and its marked as "fake news". Guess I won't take the time anymore to post, since I feel less and less inclined to participate. Will lurk further, and try to ignore the growing unfriendliness around.
    Cheers, t

    Sorry if I offended you. I can see that my statements was out of order. I appologize!
    Was only trying to keep the general problems with cracks, pops and latency from the specific problems with the new pro's.
    Peace.

    Tank you for this. I am a little raw, maybe. Peace.

  • Just to say, I had a flawless session on Beatmaker 3 with my external speaker yesterday. The only thing I did differently was to load up Beatmaker 3 and the AUs I wanted BEFORE plugging the speaker in.

  • @willhindson said:
    iOS 11 beta 5 is out... would be interested to hear if any devs can test the audio issues

    Don't update!!
    The beta 5 kills both Beatmaker 3 and Auria Pro!

  • @ErrkaPetti said:

    @willhindson said:
    iOS 11 beta 5 is out... would be interested to hear if any devs can test the audio issues

    Don't update!!
    The beta 5 kills both Beatmaker 3 and Auria Pro!

    Seems like beta 5 is causing chaos, maybe Apple are trying to fix the latency bug, fingers crossed.

  • I contacted Tim Webb from discchord.com and he'll also be looking into the problem also which is great as he'll publicise his personal findings on his very popular blog site> @ErrkaPetti said:

    @willhindson said:
    iOS 11 beta 5 is out... would be interested to hear if any devs can test the audio issues

    Don't update!!
    The beta 5 kills both Beatmaker 3 and Auria Pro!

    What happens? Crashing?

  • @knewspeak my thoughts exactly

  • @Thelast27 said:
    I contacted Tim Webb from discchord.com and he'll also be looking into the problem also which is great as he'll publicise his personal findings on his very popular blog site> @ErrkaPetti said:

    @willhindson said:
    iOS 11 beta 5 is out... would be interested to hear if any devs can test the audio issues

    Don't update!!
    The beta 5 kills both Beatmaker 3 and Auria Pro!

    What happens? Crashing?

    BM3 and AP just would’nt start... A glimpse of the startscreen and then fraction of a seconds your’e back at homescreen :-(

  • Errka, have you tried using AUM as the host?

  • edited August 2017

    @Voicey said:
    Errka, have you tried using AUM as the host?

    To do what?

    The latency thing is everywhere...

  • edited August 2017

    You say that BM3 and AP won't start but that is a different problem. Also, I don't think the latency problem is anything to do with the hosting function of apps. Ah, by host apps, I mean apps such as AP, AUM or Audiobus that can host other apps.

    Do the dedicated hosting apps AUM or AB crash in the new ios11 beta?

    Btw, this latency bug in the new ipad pros is really not a problem for me, as unplugging/reinserting the jack solves it, and it doesn't come back during the session.

    My 10.5" is great all round :-)

  • It's been a little quiet here for a few days, anyone else had continued success with ErrkaPetti temp solution?

  • edited August 2017

    I've had my 10.5 pro for almost 2 weeks now. Although I vaguely noticed some of what could be called latency with BM3, etc. within the first couple of days of having the new iPad, I haven't noticed any more issues since. No latency at all. I'm guessing that maybe my new install was getting slowed down by the fresh install/restore and iOS search function was re-indexing everything in the background.

    After several hours, I can sometimes notice a bit of audio/crackling, but a memory clear takes care of it without having to plug/unplug, or do any magical dances. For me, there's no latency issues at all, other than ArtRage stylus tracking at full screen, but that's ONLY that one app and isn't effected at all by any of my other graphics apps. So, certainly just an ArtRage bug.

    Maybe I got lucky, but my new 10.5 iPad pro has been 99.9% trouble-free thus far.

  • @skiphunt said:
    I've had my 10.5 pro for almost 2 weeks now. Although I vaguely noticed some of what could be called latency with BM3, etc. within the first couple of days of having the new iPad, I haven't noticed any more issues since. No latency at all. I'm guessing that maybe my new install was getting slowed down by the fresh install/restore and iOS search function was re-indexing everything in the background.

    After several hours, I can sometimes notice a bit of audio/crackling, but a memory clear takes care of it without having to plug/unplug, or do any magical dances. For me, there's no latency issues at all, other than ArtRage stylus tracking at full screen, but that's ONLY that one app and isn't effected at all by any of my other graphics apps. So, certainly just an ArtRage bug.

    Maybe I got lucky, but my new 10.5 iPad pro has been 99.9% trouble-free thus far.

    I'm genuinely curious. Can you run more than 3 Instances of any Au I n AUM ? So far it seems that trying to run more than 3 instances of quatromod, etc can cause crashes. While my air2 has no problems with 8 instances.

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I've had my 10.5 pro for almost 2 weeks now. Although I vaguely noticed some of what could be called latency with BM3, etc. within the first couple of days of having the new iPad, I haven't noticed any more issues since. No latency at all. I'm guessing that maybe my new install was getting slowed down by the fresh install/restore and iOS search function was re-indexing everything in the background.

    After several hours, I can sometimes notice a bit of audio/crackling, but a memory clear takes care of it without having to plug/unplug, or do any magical dances. For me, there's no latency issues at all, other than ArtRage stylus tracking at full screen, but that's ONLY that one app and isn't effected at all by any of my other graphics apps. So, certainly just an ArtRage bug.

    Maybe I got lucky, but my new 10.5 iPad pro has been 99.9% trouble-free thus far.

    I'm genuinely curious. Can you run more than 3 Instances of any Au I n AUM ? So far it seems that trying to run more than 3 instances of quatromod, etc can cause crashes. While my air2 has no problems with 8 instances.

    Funny you should ask... I was playing with Shoom in AUM earlier today. I had 4 AUs of Quatromod going on the same channel (each different, chorus, diffuser, flanger, freqshift) AND I also had 2 instances AUs of Replicant 2 going on the same AUM channel. No problems at all.

  • edited August 2017

    @skiphunt said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I've had my 10.5 pro for almost 2 weeks now. Although I vaguely noticed some of what could be called latency with BM3, etc. within the first couple of days of having the new iPad, I haven't noticed any more issues since. No latency at all. I'm guessing that maybe my new install was getting slowed down by the fresh install/restore and iOS search function was re-indexing everything in the background.

    After several hours, I can sometimes notice a bit of audio/crackling, but a memory clear takes care of it without having to plug/unplug, or do any magical dances. For me, there's no latency issues at all, other than ArtRage stylus tracking at full screen, but that's ONLY that one app and isn't effected at all by any of my other graphics apps. So, certainly just an ArtRage bug.

    Maybe I got lucky, but my new 10.5 iPad pro has been 99.9% trouble-free thus far.

    I'm genuinely curious. Can you run more than 3 Instances of any Au I n AUM ? So far it seems that trying to run more than 3 instances of quatromod, etc can cause crashes. While my air2 has no problems with 8 instances.

    Funny you should ask... I was playing with Shoom in AUM earlier today. I had 4 AUs of Quatromod going on the same channel (each different, chorus, diffuser, flanger, freqshift) AND I also had 2 instances AUs of Replicant 2 going on the same AUM channel. No problems at all.

    So far on the thread here:- https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/20439/trouble-starting-several-au-instances/p1 it's been mostly the 12.9 users reporting crashes. Maybe the 10.5 is less crash happy. I'm curious. Can you go beyond 8 instances of quatromod ?
    I've managed 4 instances of phosphor, 4 instances of replicant and 8 instances of quatromod with no issues on my Air2. The pro should be able to at least double that.
    Also. The crashes happen when on multiple channels. Could you test with 4 channels in AUM at least ?

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