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Will apple eventually phase out iaa in favor of AU?
This is total conjecture, of course. But, it got me thinking because I’ve been using iOS 11 for a month now, and in the last two updates, iaa is still wonky and the app icons are not rendering correctly in AUM or garage band.
Obviously, they can’t get rid of iaa overnight, but I think the sooner the better. Maybe a few years down the road, they’ll phase it out?
In my perfect future iPad music utopia, everything will be AU.
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I'll ask Tim Cook. We're playing golf together today.
Speaking strictly as a developer and not a user, IAA is like the racist uncle that comes to the family holiday dinner. You put up with him, and he'll be there if you really really need him, but you don't want to spend any time with him.
Pretty much like that for users too. Except that he farts a lot and tries to hit on your sister.
I have quite a lot of IAA synths that I don't suppose will ever be converted to AU so I hope they don't get rid of it too quickly.
That said I won't be buying any NEW synths that come along unless they are AU.
I've been using it a lot while I do the Phosphor development, and I'll say that it's good for programming synth sounds, since you get the bigger UI, but when it comes time to actually make music, the AUv3 is, in all cases, more better. So for that one use case, or connecting two different apps to move audio about (AudioShare and AUM or whatever) it's very useful. But for normal makin' music time, it kind of blows. And I don't even want to imagine trying to use it live. What a mess.
I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that it has been deprecated
I sure won't miss IAA when it goes. If I need to record a sound into Cubasis/Auria Pro/BM3/whathaveyous and an app doesn't support AUv3 yet, I got AB2 AND 3.
The only thing more stable than AU: just using gadget. Yes it's a closed sandbox, but what a glorious sandbox it is! I hope they'll allow gadget to host AU someday.
Except of course AB2 is essentially an IAA wrapper (at Apple's insistence as their previous method had some security implications as I recall).
Does AU support custom keyboards? For instance, Bram Bos designed an awesome sequencer but I can't find how to use it in GarageBand via AU. I can't imagine hosting Model 15 in an AU window, and using the host's keyboard would completely change Animoog.
Are these hard restrictions or is there more flexibility in the format than I realize?
To get IAA (audio / generator) working with a Swift app (totally undocumented AFAIK and was a bit of a nightmare) you actually have to do quite a lot of AU type "stuff". For example, calling AudioOutputUnitPublish() to make your app visible and listening for AudioUnitPropertyChanged() events when other apps connect or disconnect. FWIW, I think it's more of a IAA -> AU migration thing that's already happening, than a case of ditching IAA per se.
Did I hear somewhere that iOS11 supports full screen AUv3 editing or was it just a floaty type dream I had one day?
AU midi is not present, but coming in iOS 11
Me and Tim just finished our game. He said
And that was even after I let him win.
Check https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2017/501/, slide 86 onwards. The host and the AU kind of negotiate the AU screen size. Also, it seems full screen support is also included, if you check the code
(a config of "default full size" must always be supported). At least, I hope it is that.
IAA is a pig. The only reason I put up with it is because people kept giving me 1-star reviews because my apps weren't standalone. I can't wait for it to go away.
The new AU features are going to be great: we can have bigger UIs and MIDI OUT. But then people will be complaining that they have to update to iOS 11 and they'll lose [insert obscure abandoned 32 bit app here].
I can't wait for the au versions of your sequencers. Specially REDACTED.
It would make total sense that they would; what does IAA offer that AU does not? Pretty much a certainty. As is the certainty that there will be 45 threads whining about the fact that Apple is so cruel because people are going to lose access to [insert obscure abandoned IAA only app here].
Dunno - I've spent lots of time making patches in DRC which is not exactly an obscure app. If IAA goes, then I hope an AU version is created.
Why are we discussing IAA and AU on an Audiobus forum though?
Next time you see Tim please thank him for the great work they've done on getting Siri ready for controlling Home appliances. Oh and also we love ITunes! *sarcasm
Speaking of Audiobus: that's a geat example of how APIs should be: easy to implement and well documented. Getting my apps AB3 ready was a pretty painless experience.
You're right, we should take this over to the IAA and AU forums. Not sure I have the link. Can you post it please? Thanks!
Seriously though, IAA and AU are both integral to and supported by AB3, so why not? And you could way more easily ask the same question about 99.9% of the threads here. It's never been only about AudioBus.
An internet search on IAA/AU brought me to this forum, it took me way too long to even figure out what Audiobus itself was
So I am not on iOS 11 beta. Would full screen AU and AU MIDI allow you to use Animoog and Ripplemaker exactly as they appear in standalone? Or nearly?
AniMoog is not AU compatible. Ripplemaker in AU mode would still be missing it's sequencer.
The developers would have to update them, but it’s theoretically possible.
I’ve heard animoog will get updated this fall with AU.
When apple announced AU coming to iOS in the 2015 WWDC (I think). The guy doing the talk said something like:
We are not deprecating IAA... for now but The future is AU.
So at some point... yeah IAA will be doomed.