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Yamaha MDBT01 Wireless Bluetooth MIDI Adapter - They're Brilliant! (Edit: Check compatibility)

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  • Am using the USB version connected to a Linnstrument. Working fine controlling apps on an iPad. The Yamaha adapter is plugged into a USB battery pack, but an outlet charger would work as well.

  • But for those looking for a keyboard Bluetooth MIDI controller, the Korg Microkey Air-61 is great! Very light and portable, 61 keys, only a little latency. $199. Highly recommended.

  • @haulin_notes said:

    Am using the USB version connected to a Linnstrument. Working fine controlling apps on an iPad. The Yamaha adapter is plugged into a USB battery pack, but an outlet charger would work as well.

    That's a cool idea... I use the DIN-5 version with my Linnstrument 128 but I have to use a separate battery pack to charge the LS. Your solution is more elegant (probably able to velcro to the bottom?).

  • edited November 2017

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    That's a cool idea... I use the DIN-5 version with my Linnstrument 128 but I have to use a separate battery pack to charge the LS. Your solution is more elegant (probably able to velcro to the bottom?).

    Thanks! Actually, the whole bunch is just rubber-banded to the side to keep it from flopping around. Don't know if it is ready for a wild Keytar solo, but good enough for studio use.
    :smiley:

    Plus, by not plugging into the iPad directly it prevents that maddening "device not supported" message from showing up and ruining the vibe!

  • @haulin_notes said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    That's a cool idea... I use the DIN-5 version with my Linnstrument 128 but I have to use a separate battery pack to charge the LS. Your solution is more elegant (probably able to velcro to the bottom?).

    Thanks! Actually, the whole bunch is just rubber-banded to the side to keep it from flopping around. Don't know if it is ready for a wild Keytar solo, but good enough for studio use.
    :smiley:

    HA! Sounds like a good solution.

  • Velcro is a good idea. Will try that! :smile:

  • Ya I am using the standard (old skool) MIDI one, so...

  • I'm been using mine on an Omnichord, which has been amazing. The instrument works on three separate midi channels at once and is wireless. Good thing I had a guitar strap!

    I've read through the thread and it sounds like most people are having the same problem I'm having with the charge on the device running out. Yesterday it was intermittently turning off and on. Is there a remedy for this? I only have instruments with midi out, is that the problem?

  • @MikeyP said:

    @rs2000 said:
    Bluetooth Midi is great, especially for portable controllers.

    There is a qualifier to this that I am currently running into: Whereas before with my AX-7 connected via midi cable to my rack rig I used to get a couple shows out of a set of batteries, I am now finding that one set doesn't even last a whole show. Aside from the expense, this is a BIG problem. I cant be changing batteries mid-set, or be worrying that the thing is going to die on me mid-set. So it appears that powering the bluetooth adapter is a HUGE drain on the batteries

    If you use an adapter like the Yamaha MDBT01 or Quicco mi.1 then the power calculation is simple:
    MIDI out usually delivers 5V into 220+220 Ohms which results in around 10 milliamps max current. The Bluetooth adapter CANNOT pull more current than that, even if it did a complete short-circuit of the Midi Out pins.
    If your rechargable AA batteries have an average capacity of, say, 2000mAh, it would take 200 hours for the bluetooth adapter alone to draw your batteries completely empty. How long do the fully charged batteries really last without the BT adapter?
    I would say you should hardly notice any difference in battery lifetime with and without BT midi.

  • @haulin_notes said:
    Velcro is a good idea. Will try that! :smile:

    my people.

  • @SpookyZoo said:
    Just wanted to let anybody interested know that the...

    ** Yamaha MDBT01 Wireless Bluetooth MIDI Adapter **

    Is awesome. They work great and very low latency.

    They're currently on a littles sale in UK Amazon @ £32 from £39.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yamaha-MD-BT01-DBT-O1-Midi-Adaptor-x/dp/B01AXSYSLU

    I've got 3 of these now.

    1 plugged into my FCB1010, another into an X-Station 61 and another that I switch between various controllers.

    Even used it on the Novation Circuit as a fun experiment using the Circuit as a midi controller.

    I've not had any trouble getting the iPad to recognise and pair via bluetooth any device with the MDBT01 plugged in.

    EDIT:

    @Jes included a list by MidiSolutions of devices that don't give power to MIDI connections. Could be a similar issue with the MDBT01 so check this list first.

    http://www.midisolutions.com/faqs.htm#List

    How do these devices get power ?

    I was tying connect to bigsky.. simply refuses to power on..

  • edited January 2018

    I believe Strymon is unfortunately on that list above of devices that don’t work.

    I tried myself a few months back and it didn’t work.

    Sorry for the bad news.

  • @SpookyZoo said:
    I believe Strymon is unfortunately on that list above of devices that don’t work.

    I tried myself a few months back and it didn’t work.

    Sorry for the bad news.

    The big list of gear that may not put out the required power...

    This list might be questionable. I have an Akai MAX 49 and it works perfectly with the Yamaha MDBT

  • @AlexB said:

    @SpookyZoo said:
    I believe Strymon is unfortunately on that list above of devices that don’t work.

    I tried myself a few months back and it didn’t work.

    Sorry for the bad news.

    The big list of gear that may not put out the required power...

    This list might be questionable. I have an Akai MAX 49 and it works perfectly with the Yamaha MDBT

    Cool. This list was posted for the MidiSolutions device but there seemed to be some crossover with the BT01 as both had the issue of not receiving enough power from the devices.

  • I find posting this list here to be unreasonable. Firstly, several of the instruments/devices on this list works absolutely fine with the BT01. Secondly a number of the devices on the the are not in the target/scope for the BT01, like MIDI hubs and interfaces. This just gives the impression, that the BT01 is not very versatile. Which is contrary to my experiences as well a may others. And I am in no way affiliated with Yamaha - this is just my opinion.

  • @DeVlaeminck said:
    I find posting this list here to be unreasonable. Firstly, several of the instruments/devices on this list works absolutely fine with the BT01. Secondly a number of the devices on the the are not in the target/scope for the BT01, like MIDI hubs and interfaces. This just gives the impression, that the BT01 is not very versatile. Which is contrary to my experiences as well a may others. And I am in no way affiliated with Yamaha - this is just my opinion.

    Yep, The BT01 works with all my gear bar the Strymons.

    The list had been linked earlier in the thread as it appeared there was a lot of crossover between devices having issues with the MidiSolutions and the BT01.

    I’ll delete my pic of the list but the link is still available in the post by another member if peeps still want to refer to it.

  • @DeVlaeminck said:
    I find posting this list here to be unreasonable. Firstly, several of the instruments/devices on this list works absolutely fine with the BT01. Secondly a number of the devices on the the are not in the target/scope for the BT01, like MIDI hubs and interfaces. This just gives the impression, that the BT01 is not very versatile. Which is contrary to my experiences as well a may others. And I am in no way affiliated with Yamaha - this is just my opinion.

    Also, please do list here the devices that you have checked to be working from the MidiSolutions list. That would be super helpful for other folk.

    The BT01s work with my X-Station, Circuit, Peak, MonoStation, Digitakt, Launchpad Pro to name a few that I remember.

  • MT-BT01, works fine with Alesis Micron, Akai MPC4000, Z8, EWI 5000 (only out available of course, but fine)

  • @SpookyZoo said:
    Just wanted to let anybody interested know that the...

    ** Yamaha MDBT01 Wireless Bluetooth MIDI Adapter **

    Is awesome. They work great and very low latency.

    They're currently on a littles sale in UK Amazon @ £32 from £39.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yamaha-MD-BT01-DBT-O1-Midi-Adaptor-x/dp/B01AXSYSLU

    I've got 3 of these now.

    1 plugged into my FCB1010, another into an X-Station 61 and another that I switch between various controllers.

    Even used it on the Novation Circuit as a fun experiment using the Circuit as a midi controller.

    I've not had any trouble getting the iPad to recognise and pair via bluetooth any device with the MDBT01 plugged in.

    EDIT:

    @Jes included a list by MidiSolutions of devices that don't give power to MIDI connections. Could be a similar issue with the MDBT01 so check this list first.

    http://www.midisolutions.com/faqs.htm#List

    Very cool!! This might solve my dilemma for triggering some loops/samples on my iPad. So I can connect this Yamaha adapter to a MIDI foot controller, like the FCB1010, and then it will be available in my iOS apps? For example, I want to trigger a cool sound in Synthscaper, plus various other apps.

  • @Jes said:
    Although different products , here is an explanation as to why some devices do not power the midi port.
    Interestingly, the three devices I listed as not working with the Yamaha are also listed as not working with these Midi Solutions products. http://www.midisolutions.com/faqs.htm#List

    I don't find it unreasonable to spread information. I did state that this list is for a different product . And I did find that the devices I found not to work were also on this list.
    The point of linking this list was to highlight the point that many devices do not supply enough power to the midi port .

  • Anybody thinking of buying the bt01 should be aware that it's not definitely going to work with their device . MIDI Solutions are a font of information on midi port power and what does or doesn't work with their product.
    Yamaha are silent on the fact that this product may or may not work, depending on what it is plugged into.

  • @Lt_Core said:

    @SpookyZoo said:
    Just wanted to let anybody interested know that the...

    ** Yamaha MDBT01 Wireless Bluetooth MIDI Adapter **

    Is awesome. They work great and very low latency.

    They're currently on a littles sale in UK Amazon @ £32 from £39.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yamaha-MD-BT01-DBT-O1-Midi-Adaptor-x/dp/B01AXSYSLU

    I've got 3 of these now.

    1 plugged into my FCB1010, another into an X-Station 61 and another that I switch between various controllers.

    Even used it on the Novation Circuit as a fun experiment using the Circuit as a midi controller.

    I've not had any trouble getting the iPad to recognise and pair via bluetooth any device with the MDBT01 plugged in.

    EDIT:

    @Jes included a list by MidiSolutions of devices that don't give power to MIDI connections. Could be a similar issue with the MDBT01 so check this list first.

    http://www.midisolutions.com/faqs.htm#List

    Very cool!! This might solve my dilemma for triggering some loops/samples on my iPad. So I can connect this Yamaha adapter to a MIDI foot controller, like the FCB1010, and then it will be available in my iOS apps? For example, I want to trigger a cool sound in Synthscaper, plus various other apps.

    Yeah, pretty sure I had them working on the FCB1010 too.

    Will do a quick check.

  • @Jes said:

    @Jes said:
    Although different products , here is an explanation as to why some devices do not power the midi port.
    Interestingly, the three devices I listed as not working with the Yamaha are also listed as not working with these Midi Solutions products. http://www.midisolutions.com/faqs.htm#List

    I don't find it unreasonable to spread information. I did state that this list is for a different product . And I did find that the devices I found not to work were also on this list.
    The point of linking this list was to highlight the point that many devices do not supply enough power to the midi port .

    Yeah, I think it’s a valid source of info. Certainly helped shorten my Strymon frustration and look for an alternative midi solution. Got a couple of iConnectivity MIO’s for them.

  • @SpookyZoo said:
    I believe Strymon is unfortunately on that list above of devices that don’t work.

    I tried myself a few months back and it didn’t work.

    Sorry for the bad news.

    Very strange because my timeline works but not big sky

  • @hisdudeness said:

    @SpookyZoo said:
    I believe Strymon is unfortunately on that list above of devices that don’t work.

    I tried myself a few months back and it didn’t work.

    Sorry for the bad news.

    Very strange because my timeline works but not big sky

    Ah, interesting.

    I made have only tested the Big Sky and not the Timeline.

    I’ll report back.

  • edited January 2018

    I was interested in buying the adapter but since virtually all midi controllers require wired power anyway (not battery operated), I don't see much benefit in going Bluetooth since I won't be wireless. Something like the Nanokey Studio, for example, is appealing because it is truly wireless.

  • @ipadthai said:
    I was interested in buying the adapter but since virtually all midi controllers require wired power anyway (not battery operated), I don't see much benefit in going Bluetooth since I won't be wireless. Something like the Nanokey Studio, for example, is appealing because it is truly wireless.

    Yes I agree that optimum wireless means the controller is also self powered.
    Fortunately my Xstation and little Kawai midi controller both run on rechargeables and support the BT01.

  • @Jes said:

    @ipadthai said:
    I was interested in buying the adapter but since virtually all midi controllers require wired power anyway (not battery operated), I don't see much benefit in going Bluetooth since I won't be wireless. Something like the Nanokey Studio, for example, is appealing because it is truly wireless.

    Yes I agree that optimum wireless means the controller is also self powered.
    Fortunately my Xstation and little Kawai midi controller both run on rechargeables and support the BT01.

    Yup, use my BT01 with the X-Station mainly and it's flawless.

    For truly wireless, I use the CMKEY 37 bluetooth edition. That's lovely for just keys but I miss the knobs and sliders of the X-Station.

  • I have the MT-BT01 and it works great with my Yamaha MOX6; Edirol PCR-M1; and my Korg taktile 49 midi controllers.

    Has anyone tried the Puc+? It would be great for my midi controllers that only have USB midi out.
    https://jamstik.com/products/pucplus

  • edited January 2018

    @hisdudeness said:

    @SpookyZoo said:
    I believe Strymon is unfortunately on that list above of devices that don’t work.

    I tried myself a few months back and it didn’t work.

    Sorry for the bad news.

    Very strange because my timeline works but not big sky

    I just tried the BT01 in the Timeline and no joy.

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