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Yah totally. The craft isn't mystery meat. The art and vision is the deal.
Keep in mind those tracks are (give or take) 25 years old. No fancy DAWs with timestretching/blingbling and whatnot back then. Takes some serious talent to put together all those earlier tracks like Howlett did.
They did take a nosedive when Reason entered the picture. But have released some great stuff since though:-)
Yah he probably just used hardware samplers and not protools. But I was refering to the new stuff the OP is talking about.
"Since 1993 I'd written everything in Cubase, with hardware synths and Akai samplers as my main setup," he says.
Here is an oldy from 2004...
https://www.soundonsound.com/people/the-prodigy
cool stuff. where did you find these old magazine articles on them?
Mystery meat, mmm glarrgghh
That was meant as an intro to the video, but you make a point I'll gladly take some credit for
Just working my way through the other great links in this thread on my compu'er (see
Amen. The spilling is even more important than the soaking.
Found them on another forum then did a reverse lookup which led me to here just now...
http://theprodigy.info/equipment/
yup, looks like he had a fancy sampler with timestretching...
their musicless video is hilarious
Dwahaha, so good! far too short!
Niice . Imagine the iTunes rating for an app that took 30 seconds to launch, then another minute to load the song (kids these days etc. See also: £3,000 per sample, or scrap the track) He used that K-Board til the lettering wore out.
As in the Future Music article, he played manually into the sequencer through the whole song. You can hear it in the bassline. This is getting closer to the 'How?', i.e. 'copy paste sounds boring because everyone is doing it'. That whole section 'Little bit o' drums' is great, as is the rest of the article. An artist who wanted to be heard, but on his own terms... which adapted. What is an artist without an audience?
p.s. I love the artists without audiences. When I come across them. (Fna.. .. must .. resist.. .... ..r... .
the bowie jagger dancin' in the streets musicless video is gut busting
Of course you could timestretch samples back then. But you didn't have the blinged out DAWs back then. You did actually need real talent and a whole lot of hard work to accomplish the things people like Howlett did. Today anyone can take his blueprints and replicate most of the tracks in DAWs, to at least some degree, slice/collage-fest -style.
The tools are the tools....and we can all get hold of those tools.....what makes Howlett special is his knowledge of recorded music (for this read knowing exactly which samples to use and where to find them) and knowning how to mess with the source samples to transform them and make them fit together...
Then you need the production knowledge to make it all sound cohesive and for it to become something much bigger than it's component parts....
Someone else who is a master of this is Norman Cook.
what future music issue is that?
@AndyPlankton Absolutely. Hence why I was talking about using blueprints someone else designed. Late 80s and the 90s spawned so much great new music. The limitations and boundaries of the samplers and MPCs at the time made people get really creative. Today, none of that exists, unless you put those limitations in place by yourself (e.g throw away ur daw, get a Digitakt)
Or turn auto-this and auto-that off
If I had the cash i'd get a Digitakt in an instant...much prefer working with tools where you need to play/listen to line up the dots.....and not just snap the dots visually to a grid....
Yea the daw/Digitakt was just a random example. But the Digitakt does make a good example I think if talking more recent toys, there's plenty of memory onboard that should be enough for most things (1gb storage, 64mb RAM), but it's mono samples, 8 tracks and no slicing or stretching anywhere. Yet you can get creative and still do all those things using a mixture of sequencing and parameter locking, or you can chop manually and again with a bit of creativity, sequence those slices/hits on just 1-2 tracks. Is it more work then just loading up a loop in Ableton (or iOS)? Yes. But it's still a whole lot more fun!:-) I'm finding myself gathering samples from all kinds of places/stuff, something I haven't really done in a long time:)
Stop it, your making me want one even more
For sure. But yes, again my daw comment was referring to the latest stuff and I was never negating the talent or work side.
I think someone posted this here not so long ago....worth a listen
Alpha Juno 2? Is there anything close on IOS ?
The one @AudioGus posted above, I was referencing the middle column on page 33
The Prodigy live albums and shows are even more incredible. The studio records are cool, but "World's on Fire (Live)" is next level. The crowd response on "breathe" and "omen" is killer.
To get an idea of what it's like, here's a video from them live in Kiev - they have Liam doing his thing, a live drummer/guitarist/bassist and the two dancers/mc's absolutely going nuts.
Studio is good, but live - I dunno what this is. Mosh pit dance? Electropunk? It's off the charts and the first thing that's made me want to work with a band again after becoming a solo performer specifically because working with a band can be a pain in the ass.
FIRESTARTER was actually my first MP3 file ever, as it was bundled with the first version of WinAmp
I'm gonna tell that to my grandkids someday