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I think you need to play with the threshold for each node.
Here's the manual for the desktop version. I don't know if the iOS release is different: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1550/9885/files/Axon_2.0_Manual.pdf?8561226915577053189
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SAY...NO...MORE!
Really not understanding midi out on this. Manual says each drums midi output is hardwired to C-1 thru F#1 so doesn't matter what pitch the voice is set to, but it seems to trigger notes sporadically in the app it's sending midi too and not related to the timing of the neuron sequencer. Anyone having the same issue? Am I missing something?
Did you adjust the threshold of each node?
Yes. They all just trigger at the same time. Already snagged the manual from the AD site for the desktop version. Will dive back in later after my scrambled brain reconstitutes a little.
Yes, I also find the MIDI only button doesn't silence the app, just have to use the master volume. Zeeon was receiving intermittent pulses from it but nowhere near as often as notes were being triggered (and i made sure it was in poly mode). And the hardwiring means only a couple hits, notably the clap, register in Ruismaker.
Now that I think about it, maybe I need to a) crank up the release time in Zeeon, b) do the same in Axon, or both. Or try a different synth. There should be Midiflow workarounds, but shame it's not that easy to just set your output note.
Should also note than running the IAA and Zeeon together gave pretty consistent spikes of over 2400% in AUM!
Anyway, I'll report back if I get the hang of it.
Getting the hang of this now. But sometimes I can’t get one node to link to some nodes. Other nodes I can link to all other nodes. And, in my first custom neural sequence I can get node/neuron #5 to fire at all despite being linked to 4 nodes and threshold set to 0. Never fires at all. Not sure if it’s buggy, or if I’m doing something wrong.
It’s a neat thing, moving the Feedback/Filter XY quickly seems to crash the audio engine in standalone for me (needs a complete restart). Especially for preset 12, the oil drums.
Seems fine running as an AU though.
For the first part, It is programmed to prevent you from creating loops, so if you're not able to make a connection, that is why.
Yeah I tried on Zeeon, Model 15, DRC, and Ruismaker FM. Ruismaker got kick once I sitwched it to GM midi map, model 15 got nothing and I had the same issue with Zeeon. I made sure to use polyphonic material with sharp attacks and long release. You think that release time matters in Axon? Seems like it's only sending a basic trigger especially since the pitch of the node isn't relayed. Let me know what you find.
I had no joy trying with Animoog, Phosphor, and a couple others. Animoog's MIDI in activity was blinking in time with the Axon beat, but no sound. Adjusting the releases in either app didn't help anything.
Anyway, I'll come back to it once some light is shed, but I just want to play with the app itself for now instead of continue in frustration.
If you haven’t figured it out yet, you have to select each node/neuron and make each “midi only” separately. Though, I can’t get it to trigger much externally in stand-alone. Been trying to trigger Phosphor with only minimal luck.
I’m sure there’s something impressive here, but I’m not finding it all that intuitive so far.
Brilliant.
MIDI Only per node, thanks, that was driving me crackers.
I’ve just had it triggering some drum kits in ThumbJam seemingly reliably.
Animoog no joy despite seeing the activity light blinking.
iM1 seems responsive for drum kits if you transpose a bit (within iM1). Not having much joy with melodic instruments tho.
Thanks, hadn't noticed the separate MIDI outs. Still nothin doin though.
Yeah I had done exactly this on each node and had the volume up in the mixer (because velocity, apparently), but alas...
I’ve been through pretty much every setting and soloing to various drum synths, etc. And, I can’t figure out what or how anything externally gets triggered at all. But, I am getting even more of a handle on the internal synthesis and the sequencer setup.
Think I’ll take another break from it though and maybe hit the manual mañana.
Yeah maybe I should focus on what this thing's core purpose is before getting all fancy. The "sequencer" is fancy enough as it is!
Are these real sentences? I'm probably going to try this one out someday.
After a long session I like to wind down with this great scene.
Cheap. Good. Thank you.
I thought this would be an instabuy thing for me, particularly at the decent price, but all this talk of problems with nodes and neuron triggers has me hanging on to this fence in sheer terror.
This is a job for Soundtestroomman.
Jakob needs to get all over this.
Oh now I don’t know about all this midi thingy, but I know how to program it now and I just had eight of these running in AUM and a Phosphor and an AD Effect on at least five channels and my cpu was only just pushing 50%, it was mind bogglingly good fun, now my neuron network must sleep for a couple of hours, I will try and get a video done later
I thought that was a joke, but it's an actual thing.
Doug is on the night shift with it ! It must be good.
Yeah midi out is strange, better ask @Chris_Randall what's happening, most synths don't seem to like being triggered from it. I can see midi coming from Axon in midifire but not much luck in triggering by routing in AUM. Getting it to trigger some things but inconsistent.
Internally though it's a blast and pretty straightforward to play with. Great when you have multiple instances going.
Ab3 midi out for each node would be nice (or even just one port) along with a way of changing patterns on the fly, not sure if that's possible via midi yet.
Just think of 7 nodes (sound sources) each of which can be listening to another for a pulse (trigger). Node zero in the middle is the originator and the thresholds for each listening node are how many pulses it will take for it to sound (and pass the pulse on).
Each node has the ability to fine tune the sound using Frequency Modulation and Timbre parameters and can be tweaked with amplitude and pitch envelopes.
It's more straight-forward than it looks. But fun, especially when you have many going. Poly rhythmic fun.
Thanks Vim. How’s it working with other synths for you? I notice a few comments about issues with MIDI out. Maybe the internal synth is good enough on its own for now?
Is "the train" a euphemism?