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Humanise app?
It got me thinking while I was commenting on another post. Is there an app that can 'humanise' pre recorded midi tracks? Keeping some notes on the quantise, while at the same time, moving others ever so slightly.
My drum programming could definitely benefit from this, and on various other rhythmic instruments too. Hope I'm not being daft and there is already an app for this?
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There should be. Or should be a randomize button built into Cubasis. Or better yet, built into every drum machine and generative music app.
Sure, the midiflow randomizer filter in AB3 works great for me. The notes randomization is useless to me but the timing and velocity randomization work well for me...
The randomizer plug in is useful, but not a true humanizer. I wish there was a probability filter attached to each parameter, rather than just range of variation, and the Times section can only move notes back in time— all limitations of being a live chained effect.
It really needs to be something built into the sequencer where the midi resides so that the app can non-destructively adjust the midi while you tweak. I'm sure Auria has it, but that's about it, afaik. @LFS Would be a lovely addition to Cubasis if they're looking for ideas.
One of the reasons I love DrumPerfect Pro. From the manual:
2.12 Humanize
A human drummer will inherently suffer from small variations in timing and velocity
during play. DPP mimics this by imposing small random variations on
timing and velocity via the Humanize button, which turns coloured on activation.
In the current version, the maximum random variation in timing of the
strokes is +/- 100 samples (2.3 ms). The maximum random variation in velocity
is +/-15% on a velocity scale from 0 to 1. The Humanize option is saved in the
pattern.
Yeah. I thought of DPP, but it's too much of a closed box to consider useful throughout a composition, not to mention pricey if that's all you want it for.
It wouldn't be optimum, but I would be happy with a super simple app where you simply paste the original (1 track)midi from the clipboard, and it instantly adjusts and copies back to the clipboard humanized midi based on your settings. Keep loading it back into your DAW until it sounds right to you. As the DPP manual snippet above illustrates, it's no rocket science. Two sliders, basically. Three if you add quantized release for non-drum applications.
humanized release, I mean, for non-drums.
Nice idea.
Thanks, I'm still one of the luddites using AB2, so I'll look into this.
@aaronpc This is exactly the idea I was thinking of. It surely can't be difficult for an app to move midi notes around and change velocities?
I usually end up tweaking individual notes myself, but can only move the notes to a set point. It is also very time consuming!!
while there's a natural randomness in performance, humans don't act exactly 'random', but self adjust to the specific deviations of their co-players.
The whole thing is called a recursive loop mathematically and 'groove' in performace terms.
There's a famous quote of a 'Blue Note' Jazz recording engineer, who said you could see it in their eyes when the band hit 'that spot' - and added it was pointless to roll the tape unless this was reached.
I think a very smart developer could code this into Link!
Not really possible— true harmonize, or groove for that matter, move notes forward and back in time by milliseconds. You would have to incorporate a pre-roll delay, or a time machine.
Groove would be really need to be integrated into the sequencer (I believe Auria does this, too, of course) or it would be downright impossible to get the feel right. I'm not greedy, though. I just want some dev to make a simple harmonize app so I can not sound like a robot. This is a big reason why I take all work onto the laptop at some point.
Come to think of it, Link already has to do a pre-roll to sync everything up. Still— ain't happening. They have bigger fish.
If I understand the original post specific question correctly, I believe midiFILTR-PG can do this.
midiFILTr-PG Probability Gate MIDI Effect by Arthur Kerns
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/midifiltr-pg-probability-gate-midi-effect/id1226296557?mt=8
Nice idea, but it doesn't look like it alters timing at all--only mutes random notes. It's a start.
Ahhh, indeed. However, midiFILTR-PG does do a nice job of just giving a little bit of randomness if you want it. And you can target specific notes only if you want. It's a nifty little app once you get the hang of it.
2 years on, what would be the best app for this job in 2019?
Mozaic. Invent any humanise method you like.
Thanks for suggestion. I’m more of a StreamByter/MidiFire guy myself but I’m actually thinking of a non-live solution.
Humanising of a midi-file after the fact.
Quantum and Auria Pro will both do this. Xequence may as well (not looked, but I should).
Ah, Quantum, interesting.
I’m mainly after humanising the timing and velocity of a midi file. Notes should be able to remain static as I’d likely be using this with drum and melodic clips.
Cality?
LINK has too much averaging built in. MIDI clock would work with hardware but unlikely on iOS.
Genome MIDI is a MIDI sequencer with groove templates for humanisation and user-definable groove styles.
Three + years on, any further ideas? Linked to my recent post about my wish to humanise notes on the grid in DigiStix 2. In the desktop world of Studio One, you just select the notes you want to humanise, hit “H”, then you have a bunch of options to humanise according to user inputted criteria. I’d have thought this would be relatively straightforward for an iOS app, but maybe not.
Drambo lol, in all seriousness I don't really like it's humanize module that much, but it's there
I know it's weird, but I use Drambo only for one thing: humanize drum tracks in Cubasis...
Yes, I know it's like having a Ferrari in the garage for only one purpose, taking the kids to school twice a month...
That sounds interesting. What should I do in Drambo to set it up so I can humanise MIDI?
Wow, I’ve had Drambo only a month or so and am yet to dive in. Any guidance on midi humanising gratefully received.
insert drambo as a midi fx, add the humanizer module, and I think that's all that there is to it
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/43976/drum-track-humanizer-midi-fx
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