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Best IOS solutions (DAW) for reliable Midi Clock?
I'm looking for something that tight and reliably(!) Midi clocks my external gear.Pretty good results with Cubasis so far but it loses sync whenever it starts into a new loop/cycle.Auria Pro is not very Pro in this regard because there is no option to shift/delay the clock (Cubasis can do this and it's definitely needed).I've tried AUM as well (and possibly combine it with a Midi sequencer) and it starts great and very tight but starts to drift after half a minute or so.Gadget is out because i can't use it with my other Midi gear.Any other suggestions?Beatmaker 3 eventually?But in this case i would like to wait a few more updates.
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ok,scratch that.I found the best solution.I use an audio click (send to an unused interface output) to sync the Monologue (timing is absolutely rock solid with this method) and it turns out that the Mlogue still sends a midi clock on it's own then.So you can clock midi gear with the best possible timing if you use the Mlogue as a"converter".Should work with an electribe as well.Case closed
Indeed, that's a great way to sync many devices that use sync-pulse. The SQ-1 sequencer is also a good candidate.
I've done it that way with Mlogue before (and Tribe but i replaced it with TR8 now) but couldn't imagine they can send Midi Clock while being synced with a pulse.That's awesome
Monologue? Which app is this?
Could it be this
Nanologue by Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nanologue/id734323766?mt=8
The Korg Monologue Hardware Synth.In my initial post i was asking about sending Midi Clock to external gear.
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Does it drift also if you compare it with the built-in metronome in AUM?
The Cubasis thing is a bug i think...when looping, the midi clock is not correct....the second beat after the loop point comes too soon, hence the drift. If you are not looping the MIDI Clock is fine.
I am on a similar quest, but for a piece of hardware.....the multitrack recorders like the Zoom L12 and R24 have caught my eye as an alternative to getting a new iPad with more storage....if I used one of these devices I wouldn't need more space and getting one of those might be a better investment than a more expensive iPad....
Seemingly though none of them support MIDI Clock.....seems like I would need to go back to striping MTC or SMPTE on an audio track.....but I cannot seem to find a sync unit.....
I don't have Monologue....
Any other suggestions for some way of syncing a multitrack with Midi Sequencer ?
If it's pulse-to-midiclock you need then the Korg SQ-1 is the ticket. It's a fabulously useful little tool in the midi toolbag anyway.
I didn't check the details fully yet, but they advertize IOS compatibility
https://www.cymaticaudio.com/products/recorders-players/utrack-24
ps: there's a remote controlling app in the store.
Initially looked like an amazing unit, audio and standard midifile playback.....there is a gotcha though..the unit has no overdub when in standalone recorder mode.....you cannot playback some tracks and record onto others
.. a real shame..this would have probably been ideal otherwise. cheers for the tip on it.
That does look like it would do the job...so can I use the SQ1 to ?
1. Send pulse to audio track for striping....
2. Receive pulse from audio track/output midi clock to send to sequencer
Do any of the volca's do this trick too ?
As far as syncing goes, it does:
USB MIDI CLOCK -> PULSE OUT
PULSE IN -> DIN MIDI CLOCK,
PULSE IN -> PULSE OUT
Note #1: the SQ1 does not have DIN MIDI input
Note #2: MIDI output is actually minijack MIDI out, and it comes with a minijack->DIN MIDI cable
Yes (see above)
Since Volcas don't have MIDI out this won't work. I'm not sure if they send clock when modded with an output port.
The SQ1 can be powered by batteries, but they don't last long. I recommend powering over USB.. I'm using a spare iPad charger plug I still had lying around. So you don't have to buy a specific power brick for it, like with the Volcas.
Does it do pulse out without needing an incoming sync signal ?
I would be sending clock to Novation circuit so minijack works for this
Do you happen to know if you can use a headphone splitter as a merge when using minijack or would I need a proper MIDI Merge unit ?
Do you get a clock start/stop message when the incoming pulse starts/ends ?
Ahh, of course, I was forgetting they don't have DIN Midi out
Thanks Bram...some very useful info here ....
KLIK dual line level audio click to modular clock / trigger converter
@AndyPlankton haven't tried it myself but saw a sonic state video where one of those cheapo passive 1/8" headphone splitters worked as a midi thru box.
I'd like to see one working as a merge too
They're passive so it orta work in the other direction. Don't spend money based on that though! Maybe ask Nick in the comments to that video?
Brilliant. Can make my 4-track a 3-track+sync.
Want.
yes,that's what i was comparing it to.
Oh,that's also a great tip to use it with an additional output of the TR8.That makes it up for the missing trigger.Not needed now but i have an eye on the new Roland SH01a...
What iOS device model is this? When testing here, I've seen a very tiny amount of drift only (which I will try to improve in the next update) on my iPad Pro (1st gen).
Will do...cheers
Not worried about spending a coupl of quid on a splitter, just dont want to plug it all in and then smell smoke 
Will the modular clock work with circuit ? or would I still need to convert it to MIDI Clock.....if so then the SQ1 would seem a better bet.
Curcuit has only stereo output but you need an extra audio out only for this purpose.
@j_liljedahl i have an air 2 with 10.3.3 i tried it with two different interfaces with the same results and i cleared the memory/restarted the ipaf and even switched off WIFI before i tested.
I'm talking about circuit receiving the sync.....to sync it to a multitrack recorder like the Zoom R24 or LiveTrak12
OK so I found this video of a a volca synced to tape
So looks like the SQ1 would definitely do the job....use that instead of the volca....and then connect the MIDI Out to the circuit.
So question, or assumption,,,,the pulse sync must be audible range (20-20,000 khz) in order for it to be recordable on the audio track ?
That being the case, is it possible to sequence the pulse instead of striping a track ? and what type of sound does it need....(or is this the part of the puzzle that the KLIK would perform) I'm thinking of the Zoom R24 here, as it has sequencer tracks (this would help a lot as I wouldn't need to know up front how long my tune was going to be)
Rimshots are the classic pulse sound. Or if you like a WAV I probably still have the one I sampled from my Monotribe when I wanted to sync it with my ESX1SD.
I think I have with your help convinced myself to get the R24
What frequency does the pulse need to run at...per beat? per 16th ?