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So I’ve been having an immense amount of creative fun with circuit. I had a couple of killer session song ideas, started building some sounds etc. Today I’ve uploaded some vintage drum boxes sample, then...
While messing around with sample packs I’ve overwritten bloody everything.
I know that I’ll soon forget the whole experience but to be honest I’d expect more from Novation. Yes, they brought in a great product and their support isn’t lacking but all the sysx business is so last century. Also why isn’t it all in one app? Why is it bloody browser based? Can there be a more fragile way of doing this? Especially with the not so obvious UI. Of course that’s not gonna deter me from using this amazing piece of gear but why does it have to be so fucking frustrating?!!
Now @AndyPlankton the question is: does the iPad app upload the samples or is it just for the synth sounds?
There's a seperate app you can run on your computer, you don't need to use the browser version. But yes I'd agree, all that power of the sample transfer and ability to back up your sessions, etc mean you need to be careful you know what you're doing to avoid losing data. Bummer man.
I just got an OB-6 this morning and have been using Circuit to drive that for a little bit. Does a really good job actually at working as a mini keyboard and sequencer. Not as velocity sensitive as my Push 2, but for a little , fairly cheap groovebox this thing continues to impress.
I’m using a separate app for editing synths and uploading them to circuit and that works quite well.
Did you mean there’s another app for uploading drums? I can’t find it anywhere.
I have done the exact same thing......the app seems capable of sending a pack you have already saved, cannot see how to do individual samples....
When using the components program my best advice, albeit too late..is always take a backup of you current sessions etc before trying to upload ...
Yep, lesson learned.
Another thing I’ve noticed is that if I normalise samples before uploading some of them distort or rather glitch. It’s strange because when I audition them in the web app they sound ok. I’m wondering whether circuit does some kind of normalisation while uploading.
When you upload it does (if needed) convert sample format...not sure if it does it when you add a sample to the app or when it uploads to the circuit. I usually normalise to -1 db and haven't noticed any strangeness.
@Tarekith Got any ideas on this one ?
In settings there are separate options for MIDI and CC...I think the MIDI settings are for note on/off ?
hold shift when you switch on circuit to get into settings...then the orange buttons toggle MIDI CC TX/RX (as long as your on 1.5 firmware or later), not sure which one does which.
I normalize my samples to -1dB as well and haven’t noticed any distortion either. Obviously you need to turn down the part volumes on the drum channels to compensate,
Well, my question came from the fact that I have OP sample pack from coockoo dude and when auditioning in the browser they sounded quite a bit hotter then samples I was dropping from my collection of vintage beat boxes. I don't have a dynamic batch converter so I just blindly added 5db on top with a consumer converter I own which resulted in some distortion. It didn’t occur me then that probably Circuit does some kind of auto optimisation on import.
Got the answer about the CC send
You must have missed Andy's answer Dom?
Good you got it sorted. The Updates to Circuit have been great.
It's very cool to own a box of fun that you know is constantly being improved.
True dis. I just played around with it again this morning and the microstep size feature from a previous update reminded me to update my opinion of this lil box. Looking forward to Chordflowing into it this weekend, then midi Circuiting out to Omnisphere /recording audio into BM3.
Haha, yes @SpookyZoo I did kinda miss it. I read the bit about Rx and tx which I knew about already so my brain switched off before getting to the orange buttons bit. Ah well, at least I made Novation support guys feel useful.
Just had another jam on a big PA with Loopy, Samplr, Turnado and Circuit. I have Samplr and Turnado synced directly to Circuit and Loopy slaved via MIDI link sync app ( cheers @AndyPlankton ). Bloody good app even though it irks me a bit to have to start it separately (another bit to remember) and wish it was somehow baked into AUM or Audiobus. The good thing is that once started it just stays there and does it’s job. And the sync is close enough acceptable.
On the negative note Circuit is as buggy as hell. There’s tiny audio dropouts everywhere (especially with phaser) and the audio generally has a rather dirty character to it. Circuit definitely colours the sound which actually is quite cool.
Ah, and that start button, mmm can’t tell how many times I got a stab instead of starting the session. I might look into hooking up my pedal board via midi in to start and stop it.
I have that start button issue too.
Hmmm me to, I didn't pay much attention to it....it's not always been there, I figured it was something I was doing, but it seems not. It started happening on or around the 1.5 update......
Interesting. They might have tweaked velocity responsiveness of pads and likely all pads are on the same circuit (no pun). I’ll write to them asking about it. We all should so they know it’s not just one guy with clumsy fingers. I actually get quite a bit of retriggering with the playing pads too. It would be good to have some kind of settings for pad sensitivity and velocity curve.
Even if this is not the cause, I love the deduction of it.
Yes it could well be
Haven't we all dreamed of being a private detective at some point in childhood. I most probably did.
Well, my question came from the fact that I have OP sample pack from coockoo dude and when auditioning in the browser they sounded quite a bit hotter then samples I was dropping from my collection of vintage beat boxes. I don't have a dynamic batch converter so I just blindly added 5db on top which resulted in distortion. Then I dialled it back to 3db which cured it.
The thing is though, I then tried to upload not normalised samples and despite them sounding low in the browser they were ok on the machine itself.
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Anyway, I hope they add an arp option in the next update, or at least a note repeat function.
Hmmm, spent a good chunk of yesterday with the updated Circuit and no issues here.
I'm gonna try an experiment on this......for now I am going to ensure i do a firm and considered press of the button, rather than trying to give it a quick tap to see if that helps...
My issue has been happening since day one, but never repeatable enough for me to raise a warranty issue with Novation. There’s a lot of people with the same issue on the Circuit group on Facebook, Novation is aware of it surely.
I have no doubt they do, just curious what they have to say about it.
I wrote to them but from the reply I’m gathering he didn’t know what I was talking about and ask for a video of it happening and that they were not aware of this issue.
I had a longe jam last night however and I think I’ve found the answer which unfortunately isn’t solvable afaik.
The problem IMO is in the silicon gel pads that they’re using. They’re simply too thick not to have a bounce. They look absolutely lovely with all those lights and feel amazingly nice to touch but as a playing surface they simply suck. This is a sole reason why Novation launch control didn’t work for me. Too much bounce and occasional retriggering.
Last night, rather than just jamming, I had a specific fast bass line I wanted to play. Because I had a video camera rolling I wanted to do it spot on without mistakes and I found it close to impossible and ended up playing a few notes at a time adding more with every loop. I admit it was a fairly fast and rhythmical (afrobeat) bass line.
I’m guessing with a lot of practice one might learn to play them just as if they were a real (rather hard to master) instrument.
Maybe if they used thinner pads with the same material it would make it a bit less bouncy but likely there was a reason for the current thickness (strength?). I hope future Novation products will have different pads as they fail as a surface for precise playing.
Of course though I might be completely wrong and everything will be resolved in future firmware updates.
I wonder if the LP Pro uses the same type of pads (I know the non Pro Launchpads don't)...and if that suffers the same thing ?
If it does use the same pads...and doesn't suffer the same re-triggering then there is hope
Not suitable for your one take video scenario, but you could record the bassline using a lower tempo then speed it up afterwards....just another option
I don't know if they are the same, but you can adjust the velocity sensitivity of the pads on the LPP. I'm also having the play button issue - also noticed from 1.5ish. I've not had any issues with the pads on the LPP.
LPP pads are much different from the Circuit to me.
I'm terrible at visual... but are the LPP's slightly larger?