Quantum from midiSequencer dev is available now!!!

Carnbot

Yes custom scales and more scale options would be much appreciated.
The app is just brilliant though in the depth. It's like having 6x Thesys + more in one.

yowza

@RajahP said:

I guess this is what you meant by ‘modes

I don't think modes per se are there but if you want the sound of E Phrygian pick C major as your scale and make sure the emphasis is on the E note as in make that your destination in your melodies or play lots of E bass notes and even if you play a major scale from the root note (do, re, me etc) your ear is going to hear the mode of E Phrygian if you play E bass notes under it. If you want to hear F Lydian keep playing the same scale (C major) and start emphasizing F bass notes.

RajahP

@Carnbot said:
Yes custom scales and more scale options would be much appreciated.
The app is just brilliant though in the depth. It's like having 6x Thesys + more in one.

Sure is a brilliant app...

About Thesys, still love the performance features it has (Looping, gating, etc on the fly..).

Will

@bleep said:

@Philh0954 said:
I admit that when it comes to midi, I only have a basic understanding of it. When you say that Quantum is midi

A midi note is defined by a time-stamped note-on message and a time-stamped note-off message. The message itself only contains note number (pitch), velocity and midi channel. The concept of panning is sadly not included in the midi standard. When you apply panning in a daw track, that usually means sending midi CC 10 controller values to that channel, and the synth on that channel would pan the audio accordingly. All faders you see in Quantum only influence what can be represented by midi note messages.

Yep. To be clear, when you have a synth on a track in a DAW and automate the panning, you're not generally automating the synth—you're automating the pan control on the DAWs mixer.

@Philh0954 if you host synths in AUM, you can create a separate sequence to automate the pan control in AUM.

[Deleted User]

Question is it possible to use Navichord and send midi output to Quantum and have it follow the Chord progression?

@syrupcore said:

@bleep said:

@Philh0954 said:
I admit that when it comes to midi, I only have a basic understanding of it. When you say that Quantum is midi

A midi note is defined by a time-stamped note-on message and a time-stamped note-off message. The message itself only contains note number (pitch), velocity and midi channel. The concept of panning is sadly not included in the midi standard. When you apply panning in a daw track, that usually means sending midi CC 10 controller values to that channel, and the synth on that channel would pan the audio accordingly. All faders you see in Quantum only influence what can be represented by midi note messages.

Yep. To be clear, when you have a synth on a track in a DAW and automate the panning, you're not generally automating the synth—you're automating the pan control on the DAWs mixer.

@Philh0954 if you host synths in AUM, you can create a separate sequence to automate the pan control in AUM.

AndyPlankton

@RajahP said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@RajahP said:
Before I place my request for custom scales... I should ask if there is a way to do custom scales?
Seems like so much is under the hood...

+1 I was going to ask about having the modes available, and thought the same thing...perhaps they are here already somewhere

I guess this is what you meant by ‘modes

No...I mean things like Phrygian, Mixolydian etc...but that i sthe screen where they would go

AndyPlankton

@yowza said:

@RajahP said:

I guess this is what you meant by ‘modes

I don't think modes per se are there but if you want the sound of E Phrygian pick C major as your scale and make sure the emphasis is on the E note as in make that your destination in your melodies or play lots of E bass notes and even if you play a major scale from the root note (do, re, me etc) your ear is going to hear the mode of E Phrygian if you play E bass notes under it. If you want to hear F Lydian keep playing the same scale (C major) and start emphasizing F bass notes.

Good tip..thanks

Will

@MusicMan4Christ said:
Question is it possible to use Navichord and send midi output to Quantum and have it follow the Chord progression?

I'm not sure. You can use an external input (or app) to transpose the sequencers but I haven't tried sending in chords in that mode. If Navichord as a 'root note' output, that would for sure work.

[Deleted User]

I think Denis @Navichord is working on that, but right now I’m sending the Bass to Model 15 or Addictive Pro Synth and it hears the Bass just fine. Even if I don’t use the Midiflow Transposer or splitter. I’m stuck between this and Step Poly Arp. I’m using both iPhone and iPad but wonder if this would give me better results at tweaking my Bass track.

@syrupcore said:

@MusicMan4Christ said:
Question is it possible to use Navichord and send midi output to Quantum and have it follow the Chord progression?

I'm not sure. You can use an external input (or app) to transpose the sequencers but I haven't tried sending in chords in that mode. If Navichord as a 'root note' output, that would for sure work.

Will

@MusicMan4Christ said:
I think Denis @Navichord is working on that, but right now I’m sending the Bass to Model 15 or Addictive Pro Synth and it hears the Bass just fine. Even if I don’t use the Midiflow Transposer or splitter. I’m stuck between this and Step Poly Arp. I’m using both iPhone and iPad but wonder if this would give me better results at tweaking my Bass track.

@syrupcore said:

@MusicMan4Christ said:
Question is it possible to use Navichord and send midi output to Quantum and have it follow the Chord progression?

I'm not sure. You can use an external input (or app) to transpose the sequencers but I haven't tried sending in chords in that mode. If Navichord as a 'root note' output, that would for sure work.

I don't own Navichord. Maybe someone here who owns it could try it for you?

Navichord

@MusicMan4Christ said:
I think Denis @Navichord is working on that, but right now I’m sending the Bass to Model 15 or Addictive Pro Synth and it hears the Bass just fine. Even if I don’t use the Midiflow Transposer or splitter. I’m stuck between this and Step Poly Arp. I’m using both iPhone and iPad but wonder if this would give me better results at tweaking my Bass track.

@syrupcore said:

@MusicMan4Christ said:
Question is it possible to use Navichord and send midi output to Quantum and have it follow the Chord progression?

I'm not sure. You can use an external input (or app) to transpose the sequencers but I haven't tried sending in chords in that mode. If Navichord as a 'root note' output, that would for sure work.

Navichord can split chords and send to separate MIDI channels.

[Deleted User]

Thanks Denis!
I think just sending voice 1 would be it I think. I’m going to check my preset.

@Navichord said:

@MusicMan4Christ said:
I think Denis @Navichord is working on that, but right now I’m sending the Bass to Model 15 or Addictive Pro Synth and it hears the Bass just fine. Even if I don’t use the Midiflow Transposer or splitter. I’m stuck between this and Step Poly Arp. I’m using both iPhone and iPad but wonder if this would give me better results at tweaking my Bass track.

@syrupcore said:

@MusicMan4Christ said:
Question is it possible to use Navichord and send midi output to Quantum and have it follow the Chord progression?

I'm not sure. You can use an external input (or app) to transpose the sequencers but I haven't tried sending in chords in that mode. If Navichord as a 'root note' output, that would for sure work.

Navichord can split chords and send to separate MIDI channels.

Phil999

@midiSequencer said:

Micro-tuning is on my list of things to do - as you say not everyone uses ET.

great. Looking forward to it.

[Deleted User]

So if say I place Navichord in AB3 midi slot as sender and where would i put Quantum if it’s supposed to send the received midi to Model 15 or whichever synth? If I am sending it to Model 15, would i put Model 15 in the Midi output slot of AB3?

@syrupcore said:

@MusicMan4Christ said:
Question is it possible to use Navichord and send midi output to Quantum and have it follow the Chord progression?

I'm not sure. You can use an external input (or app) to transpose the sequencers but I haven't tried sending in chords in that mode. If Navichord as a 'root note' output, that would for sure work.

midiSequencer

@MusicMan4Christ said:
Question is it possible to use Navichord and send midi output to Quantum and have it follow the Chord progression?

Are you trying to get Quantum sequences to follow Navichord's split midi note outputs?
Not sure it could do this - if anything it would be easier outside of AB3 midi (using coreMidi) as a per sequence input.

RajahP

@midiSequencer said:

@MusicMan4Christ said:
Question is it possible to use Navichord and send midi output to Quantum and have it follow the Chord progression?

Are you trying to get Quantum sequences to follow Navichord's split midi note outputs?
Not sure it could do this - if anything it would be easier outside of AB3 midi (using coreMidi) as a per sequence input.

I think he is referring to having Quantum operate as a ‘phase arp’ as SteoPolyArp does in AB3.

Philh0954

@syrupcore said:

@bleep said:

@Philh0954 said:
I admit that when it comes to midi, I only have a basic understanding of it. When you say that Quantum is midi

A midi note is defined by a time-stamped note-on message and a time-stamped note-off message. The message itself only contains note number (pitch), velocity and midi channel. The concept of panning is sadly not included in the midi standard. When you apply panning in a daw track, that usually means sending midi CC 10 controller values to that channel, and the synth on that channel would pan the audio accordingly. All faders you see in Quantum only influence what can be represented by midi note messages.

Yep. To be clear, when you have a synth on a track in a DAW and automate the panning, you're not generally automating the synth—you're automating the pan control on the DAWs mixer.

@Philh0954 if you host synths in AUM, you can create a separate sequence to automate the pan control in AUM.

Thanks for clearing that up. Very helpful!

Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

@AndyPlankton said:

No...I mean things like Phrygian, Mixolydian etc...but that i sthe screen where they would go

Those church modes use the same pitch collection as the major scale. You bring out the flavor of each mode via your compositional choices. Not sure what a button would accomplish in this context.

aplourde

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@AndyPlankton said:

No...I mean things like Phrygian, Mixolydian etc...but that i sthe screen where they would go

Those church modes use the same pitch collection as the major scale. You bring out the flavor of each mode via your compositional choices. Not sure what a button would accomplish in this context.

Yeah, modes really don't make sense as there's no indication in Quantum for the tonic or scale degree. That said, it would save you from the 2 second consideration of desired mode vs its relative Ionian counterpart....

Custom scales, however, would be incredibly useful. A major limitation of the interface of traditional step sequencers like this is that selecting exact notes can be incredibly fiddly (yes you can limit the range, but what if you want massive octave shifts, but only a few different notes?) Being able to select a blues, hirajoshi, or whatever scale and slide the faders around would be fantastic.

@midiSequencer Please consider this!

aplourde

@midiSequencer On the topic of scales: there's a minor graphical glitch in that longer scale names don't fit in the scale name display

This is on an iPhone 6S, but it's also on the iPad 9.7"

Mayo

More scales - Definitely !

Also - some preset patches so we can learn what it is capable of

• it comes empty of any presets which is very odd.
  As the other topic on fugue confirms - there is confusion on how to set this up.
  @midiSequencer - A few demo / example patches in the next update would really help us get going

Will

@Mayo said:
More scales - Definitely !

Also - some preset patches so we can learn what it is capable of

• it comes empty of any presets which is very odd.
  As the other topic on fugue confirms - there is confusion on how to set this up.
  @midiSequencer - A few demo / example patches in the next update would really help us get going

Cool idea. Makes we want a "patch notes" feature though. Something that would be displayed in the help window when the preset is loaded. Mainly thinking about 'example' or demonstration patches so the particulars of the preset can be pointed out but it would also be useful for notes-to-self ("patch rack 2 to sunrizer preset Blah"...)

midiSequencer

If anyone is struggling to enable Ableton Link - go to the Settings app & enable it there
I'm updating in-app help to make this clearer, and once I'm finished with bug fixing will update the manual.

.

midiSequencer

@aplourde said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@AndyPlankton said:

No...I mean things like Phrygian, Mixolydian etc...but that i sthe screen where they would go

Those church modes use the same pitch collection as the major scale. You bring out the flavor of each mode via your compositional choices. Not sure what a button would accomplish in this context.

Yeah, modes really don't make sense as there's no indication in Quantum for the tonic or scale degree. That said, it would save you from the 2 second consideration of desired mode vs its relative Ionian counterpart....

Custom scales, however, would be incredibly useful. A major limitation of the interface of traditional step sequencers like this is that selecting exact notes can be incredibly fiddly (yes you can limit the range, but what if you want massive octave shifts, but only a few different notes?) Being able to select a blues, hirajoshi, or whatever scale and slide the faders around would be fantastic.

@midiSequencer Please consider this!

noted - I'm adding custom scales & micro tuning soonish....

midiSequencer

@aplourde said:
@midiSequencer On the topic of scales: there's a minor graphical glitch in that longer scale names don't fit in the scale name display

This is on an iPhone 6S, but it's also on the iPad 9.7"

thx - I just fixed that (& other help related issues).

midiSequencer

@Mayo said:
More scales - Definitely !

Also - some preset patches so we can learn what it is capable of

• it comes empty of any presets which is very odd.
  As the other topic on fugue confirms - there is confusion on how to set this up.
  @midiSequencer - A few demo / example patches in the next update would really help us get going

I'm planning on doing more audio sessions (no talkie just playing) like the 3 zeeons one and will make the banks available as I go along.

here is my zeeon one.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulmlwuuoysfbi84/zeeon30sep17.qrk?dl=0

AndyPlankton

@midiSequencer said:

@aplourde said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@AndyPlankton said:

No...I mean things like Phrygian, Mixolydian etc...but that i sthe screen where they would go

Those church modes use the same pitch collection as the major scale. You bring out the flavor of each mode via your compositional choices. Not sure what a button would accomplish in this context.

Yeah, modes really don't make sense as there's no indication in Quantum for the tonic or scale degree. That said, it would save you from the 2 second consideration of desired mode vs its relative Ionian counterpart....

Custom scales, however, would be incredibly useful. A major limitation of the interface of traditional step sequencers like this is that selecting exact notes can be incredibly fiddly (yes you can limit the range, but what if you want massive octave shifts, but only a few different notes?) Being able to select a blues, hirajoshi, or whatever scale and slide the faders around would be fantastic.

@midiSequencer Please consider this!

noted - I'm adding custom scales & micro tuning soonish....

Modes would also help those who are browsers and do not know music theory in depth enough to understand modes...you know...happy accidents and all that
Custom scales is more useful..I agree...and this could be used to create the modes anyway

BiancaNeve

@midiSequencer said:
If anyone is struggling to enable Ableton Link - go to the Settings app & enable it there
I'm updating in-app help to make this clearer, and once I'm finished with bug fixing will update the manual.

.

Just being picky but Middle C (i.e. the C below the A at 440hz) is always midi 60 by definition whether you call midi 60 c3 or c4 etc is subject to debate.

Carnbot

+1 for session notes, you can have very deep projects with this so if you leave them for a while it'll be easy to forget what instruments you were using etc.
Demo projects (which you can load) are also a very good idea top illustrate how things work.

midiSequencer

@BiancaNeve said:

@midiSequencer said:
If anyone is struggling to enable Ableton Link - go to the Settings app & enable it there
I'm updating in-app help to make this clearer, and once I'm finished with bug fixing will update the manual.

.

Just being picky but Middle C (i.e. the C below the A at 440hz) is always midi 60 by definition whether you call midi 60 c3 or c4 etc is subject to debate.

Maybe worded badly? It's for Apple Logic users (I'm not one) I believe which is an octave down. I never use it myself.