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  • @midiSequencer said:

    @yowza said:

    Again I can extend these easily...

    How about play chord on nth loop else play step.
    And
    Play chord on RND loop instead of fixed nth loop else play step.

    This would be great for Jazz style adding another round of variation.
    I currently use the ' nice hot cup of tea' option (BRN) to add interesting jazzy variations.

  • @midiSequencer I know this has been asked before but I'm not sure it was answered (I can't find it, anyway).

    Is there a way to tie notes together? I know how to change the note length, but I'd like to do long pads and am unsure how to get there.

  • I must say I see great things with this app. One question is there any loaded presets that I am missing or place to grab so so I can learn from those?

  • @Chaztrip said:
    I must say I see great things with this app. One question is there any loaded presets that I am missing or place to grab so so I can learn from those?

    +1

  • @TimothyClyde said:

    @midiSequencer said:

    @yowza said:

    Again I can extend these easily...

    How about play chord on nth loop else play step.
    And
    Play chord on RND loop instead of fixed nth loop else play step.

    This would be great for Jazz style adding another round of variation.
    I currently use the ' nice hot cup of tea' option (BRN) to add interesting jazzy variations.

    so an ability to play all added notes or not. Will look at that.
    The rnd would require a reset of the loop counter....

  • @dvlmusic said:
    @midiSequencer I know this has been asked before but I'm not sure it was answered (I can't find it, anyway).

    Is there a way to tie notes together? I know how to change the note length, but I'd like to do long pads and am unsure how to get there.

    I've deliberately left out tie basically because of the core ability to modify steps during play. Having a tie really just elongates the length of the 1st step anyway and the note off is actually sent with the note on (so is precomputed).

    So I only see this useful if you want more than 24 ties (4/1D step time is x6 & 400% gate is also x4).

    If you can think of a reason to use it (other than long notes) let me know! I feel too it out to be there....

  • @Chaztrip said:
    I must say I see great things with this app. One question is there any loaded presets that I am missing or place to grab so so I can learn from those?

    Not yet - but I can create some. I'm starting to put a web page together which will have these.
    Quantum gets complex very quickly, anything in particular you are looking for?

    The next manual updates include midi input & follow actions.

    Here are three:
    Music box demo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulmlwuuoysfbi84/zeeon30sep17.qrk?dl=0
    Mixer demo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/53difau64gr50gz/mixerSeq3.qrk?dl=0
    Program Chg mid sequence: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qu0dkexy0e86t5n/PchgSeq.qrk?dl=0

  • @midiSequencer said:

    @Chaztrip said:
    I must say I see great things with this app. One question is there any loaded presets that I am missing or place to grab so so I can learn from those?

    Not yet - but I can create some. I'm starting to put a web page together which will have these.
    Quantum gets complex very quickly, anything in particular you are looking for?

    The next manual updates include midi input & follow actions.

    Here are three:
    Music box demo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulmlwuuoysfbi84/zeeon30sep17.qrk?dl=0
    Mixer demo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/53difau64gr50gz/mixerSeq3.qrk?dl=0
    Program Chg mid sequence: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qu0dkexy0e86t5n/PchgSeq.qrk?dl=0

    First of all great work on this! I know that you must be busy. My problem is I don’t read the manuals enough. I just discovered the inter active help feature. That is great!

    As far as presets..... I don’t really care. Just some arpeggios , sequences or other items that show case this? Your idea of a website will be awesome can’t wait for that.

  • @Chaztrip said:

    First of all great work on this! I know that you must be busy. My problem is I don’t read the manuals enough. I just discovered the inter active help feature. That is great!

    As far as presets..... I don’t really care. Just some arpeggios , sequences or other items that show case this? Your idea of a website will be awesome can’t wait for that.

    Yep - Quantum does custom arpeggios - one day it will have some pattern generating options for easy setup. I see patterns being useful in other places too (e.g. mute steps, selections etc)..

    I'm making available any bank I create on my showcase videos too.

  • edited October 2017

    @midiSequencer said:

    @dvlmusic said:
    @midiSequencer I know this has been asked before but I'm not sure it was answered (I can't find it, anyway).

    Is there a way to tie notes together? I know how to change the note length, but I'd like to do long pads and am unsure how to get there.

    I've deliberately left out tie basically because of the core ability to modify steps during play. Having a tie really just elongates the length of the 1st step anyway and the note off is actually sent with the note on (so is precomputed).

    So I only see this useful if you want more than 24 ties (4/1D step time is x6 & 400% gate is also x4).

    If you can think of a reason to use it (other than long notes) let me know! I feel too it out to be there....

    I was just looking to do long notes - pads that would hold for the length of 16 steps. I have a number of sequences using the full 64 steps, and it would be nice to have a pad that could hold for a full 16 - four chord changes per loop. Or longer and then I could change chords with transpose.....

    Is there a workaround to get long notes you suggest?

  • PlayMute - play step only on the nth loop, mute otherwise

    Hubba hubba!

    @midiSequencer said:

    @TimothyClyde said:

    @midiSequencer said:

    @yowza said:

    Again I can extend these easily...

    How about play chord on nth loop else play step.
    And
    Play chord on RND loop instead of fixed nth loop else play step.

    This would be great for Jazz style adding another round of variation.
    I currently use the ' nice hot cup of tea' option (BRN) to add interesting jazzy variations.

    so an ability to play all added notes or not. Will look at that.
    The rnd would require a reset of the loop counter....

    This sounds somewhat like what we've discussed before with regard to adding a clock-less 'subsequence' of sorts on a step basis. You could put a chord onto a step and instead of playing the chord, it would play a single note from the chord on each loop. Adding an option to play the entire chord every N loops might work for both stories.

  • edited October 2017

    @dvlmusic said:

    I was just looking to do long notes - pads that would hold for the length of 16 steps. I have a number of sequences using the full 64 steps, and it would be nice to have a pad that could hold for a full 16 - four chord changes per loop. Or longer and then I could change chords with transpose.....

    Is there a workaround to get long notes you suggest?

    you work on a slower song tempo - this gives you longer notes - then make the faster ones run at normal speed to compensate.
    Song tempo = 15 (1 step per second)
    S1 at 1:16 (your slow notes) - plays 1 step every 16 seconds
    S2 at 4:1 (normal notes) - plays 4 steps every second (so 64 per 1 of S1).

    so using ratios between S1,S2 etc & balancing song tempo (so you don't need more than x6 or less than 1/16 tempo divisions) should give you what you want.

    I rarely stay at 60BPM song anymore.

  • btw, reworked the trigger conditions:

    If n is the loop it triggers on (so loop 1,n,n+n etc) then:
    Off - ignores it
    Mute - mutes on nth loop
    Skip - skips on nth loop
    Chord - mutes the chord on the step (not the step note) on nth loop

    but I've added a third control to invert n - so the above apply on every loop except 1,n,n+n etc.

    I feel this works better to add variety and easy to add new trigger types. Will finish testing it tomorrow & release to beta testers.

  • @midiSequencer said:

    @dvlmusic said:

    I was just looking to do long notes - pads that would hold for the length of 16 steps. I have a number of sequences using the full 64 steps, and it would be nice to have a pad that could hold for a full 16 - four chord changes per loop. Or longer and then I could change chords with transpose.....

    Is there a workaround to get long notes you suggest?

    you work on a slower song tempo - this gives you longer notes - then make the faster ones run at normal speed to compensate.
    Song tempo = 15 (1 step per second)
    S1 at 1:16 (your slow notes) - plays 1 step every 16 seconds
    S2 at 4:1 (normal notes) - plays 4 steps every second (so 64 per 1 of S1).

    so using ratios between S1,S2 etc & balancing song tempo (so you don't need more than x6 or less than 1/16 tempo divisions) should give you what you want.

    I rarely stay at 60BPM song anymore.

    There's also clock per step (via the TIME show button). I can't recall exactly how it interrelates with the sequence clock though and I'm not in front of it at the moment. Also, there's the 'Latch' button in step edit.

  • In the mixer, if I have just one sequence with multiple parts, the link fader button does not work. But if I add more sequences, the link fader button works again, and the parts and sequences are linked like they are supposed to be.

  • @syrupcore said:

    There's also clock per step (via the TIME show button). I can't recall exactly how it interrelates with the sequence clock though and I'm not in front of it at the moment. Also, there's the 'Latch' button in step edit.

    steps are played in a time interval determined by song bpm * sequence time division * step time division. The note is then gated on that interval.

  • @CracklePot said:
    In the mixer, if I have just one sequence with multiple parts, the link fader button does not work. But if I add more sequences, the link fader button works again, and the parts and sequences are linked like they are supposed to be.

    That's a bug - I've fixed it now.

  • quick start manual updated - session 5 covers the walkthrough of loop actions - your way of programming changes to sequences.

    http://www.amssoftware.org/manual/QuantumManual.pdf

    next session will be on midi input...

  • @midiSequencer said:
    quick start manual updated - session 5 covers the walkthrough of loop actions - your way of programming changes to sequences.

    http://www.amssoftware.org/manual/QuantumManual.pdf

    next session will be on midi input...

    Greatly appreciated! Your app is pure genius. I love it.

  • @midiSequencer said:
    btw, reworked the trigger conditions:

    If n is the loop it triggers on (so loop 1,n,n+n etc) then:
    Off - ignores it
    Mute - mutes on nth loop
    Skip - skips on nth loop
    Chord - mutes the chord on the step (not the step note) on nth loop

    but I've added a third control to invert n - so the above apply on every loop except 1,n,n+n etc.

    I feel this works better to add variety and easy to add new trigger types. Will finish testing it tomorrow & release to beta testers.

    Which is great until you get Link involved or want to sync with other apps. 15 bpm doesn’t work out too great with drum sequencers or sync delays really. Would it make sense to have an “internal clock divider” at the song level or something so that the external sync sent or received could remain higher?

  • @wim said:

    @midiSequencer said:
    btw, reworked the trigger conditions:

    If n is the loop it triggers on (so loop 1,n,n+n etc) then:
    Off - ignores it
    Mute - mutes on nth loop
    Skip - skips on nth loop
    Chord - mutes the chord on the step (not the step note) on nth loop

    but I've added a third control to invert n - so the above apply on every loop except 1,n,n+n etc.

    I feel this works better to add variety and easy to add new trigger types. Will finish testing it tomorrow & release to beta testers.

    Which is great until you get Link involved or want to sync with other apps. 15 bpm doesn’t work out too great with drum sequencers or sync delays really. Would it make sense to have an “internal clock divider” at the song level or something so that the external sync sent or received could remain higher?

    Not sure you are referring to the trigger conditions but an earlier topic on tempo divisions (song bpm->sequence tempo division->step time division)?

  • edited November 2017

    @CracklePot said:

    @midiSequencer said:
    quick start manual updated - session 5 covers the walkthrough of loop actions - your way of programming changes to sequences.

    http://www.amssoftware.org/manual/QuantumManual.pdf

    next session will be on midi input...

    Greatly appreciated! Your app is pure genius. I love it.

    thx - geting abit lost in moog talk - but I'm working on a Moog model 15 project which ties both together - M15 app (which I am still a beta tester for but under NDA) is my main reason for writing Quantum and now its AU I can really show off the sequencer!

  • @midiSequencer said:

    @CracklePot said:

    @midiSequencer said:
    quick start manual updated - session 5 covers the walkthrough of loop actions - your way of programming changes to sequences.

    http://www.amssoftware.org/manual/QuantumManual.pdf

    next session will be on midi input...

    Greatly appreciated! Your app is pure genius. I love it.

    thx - geting abit lost in moog talk - but I'm working on a Moog model 15 project which ties both together - M15 app (which I am still a beta tester for but under NDA) is my main reason for writing Quantum and now its AU I can really show off the sequencer!

    That is exciting to hear. I just picked-up Model 15 on sale, and I too think these 2 apps are a perfect match. Sadly, I can only get 2-3 Model 15's going simultaneously, but I have some other synths and drum samplers and whatnot, so I am not too bummed out about it.

  • @CracklePot said:

    @midiSequencer said:

    @CracklePot said:

    @midiSequencer said:
    quick start manual updated - session 5 covers the walkthrough of loop actions - your way of programming changes to sequences.

    http://www.amssoftware.org/manual/QuantumManual.pdf

    next session will be on midi input...

    Greatly appreciated! Your app is pure genius. I love it.

    thx - geting abit lost in moog talk - but I'm working on a Moog model 15 project which ties both together - M15 app (which I am still a beta tester for but under NDA) is my main reason for writing Quantum and now its AU I can really show off the sequencer!

    That is exciting to hear. I just picked-up Model 15 on sale, and I too think these 2 apps are a perfect match. Sadly, I can only get 2-3 Model 15's going simultaneously, but I have some other synths and drum samplers and whatnot, so I am not too bummed out about it.

    you can do a lot with Quantum & 1 instance of M15 (AU or standalone):

  • @midiSequencer said:

    @CracklePot said:

    @midiSequencer said:

    @CracklePot said:

    @midiSequencer said:
    quick start manual updated - session 5 covers the walkthrough of loop actions - your way of programming changes to sequences.

    http://www.amssoftware.org/manual/QuantumManual.pdf

    next session will be on midi input...

    Greatly appreciated! Your app is pure genius. I love it.

    thx - geting abit lost in moog talk - but I'm working on a Moog model 15 project which ties both together - M15 app (which I am still a beta tester for but under NDA) is my main reason for writing Quantum and now its AU I can really show off the sequencer!

    That is exciting to hear. I just picked-up Model 15 on sale, and I too think these 2 apps are a perfect match. Sadly, I can only get 2-3 Model 15's going simultaneously, but I have some other synths and drum samplers and whatnot, so I am not too bummed out about it.

    you can do a lot with Quantum & 1 instance of M15 (AU or standalone):

    Holy smokes! I see your point. That was sounding freakin' amazing! Shook my place when that bass kicked in, too.

  • @midiSequencer said:

    @wim said:

    @midiSequencer said:
    btw, reworked the trigger conditions:

    If n is the loop it triggers on (so loop 1,n,n+n etc) then:
    Off - ignores it
    Mute - mutes on nth loop
    Skip - skips on nth loop
    Chord - mutes the chord on the step (not the step note) on nth loop

    but I've added a third control to invert n - so the above apply on every loop except 1,n,n+n etc.

    I feel this works better to add variety and easy to add new trigger types. Will finish testing it tomorrow & release to beta testers.

    Which is great until you get Link involved or want to sync with other apps. 15 bpm doesn’t work out too great with drum sequencers or sync delays really. Would it make sense to have an “internal clock divider” at the song level or something so that the external sync sent or received could remain higher?

    Not sure you are referring to the trigger conditions but an earlier topic on tempo divisions (song bpm->sequence tempo division->step time division)?

    What I mean is, if you set the master tempo to 15 BPM with Link enabled or sending MIDI clock, all other apps will run at 15 BPM as well. That’s usually not desirable. I was wondering if it might not be possible to multiply the Link / Clock tempo that is sent - to allow a low BPM in Quantum without adversely affecting other apps. Or, to flip it around, to be able to receive a higher Link / Clock rate and divide it to have a slower master tempo internally.

    I know you can do this at the rack and part level, but you’ve mentioned more than once that you use very slow master tempos - in this case to get longer notes. That’s often not great for playing with other apps.

  • @wim said:

    @midiSequencer said:

    @wim said:

    @midiSequencer said:
    btw, reworked the trigger conditions:

    If n is the loop it triggers on (so loop 1,n,n+n etc) then:
    Off - ignores it
    Mute - mutes on nth loop
    Skip - skips on nth loop
    Chord - mutes the chord on the step (not the step note) on nth loop

    but I've added a third control to invert n - so the above apply on every loop except 1,n,n+n etc.

    I feel this works better to add variety and easy to add new trigger types. Will finish testing it tomorrow & release to beta testers.

    Which is great until you get Link involved or want to sync with other apps. 15 bpm doesn’t work out too great with drum sequencers or sync delays really. Would it make sense to have an “internal clock divider” at the song level or something so that the external sync sent or received could remain higher?

    Not sure you are referring to the trigger conditions but an earlier topic on tempo divisions (song bpm->sequence tempo division->step time division)?

    What I mean is, if you set the master tempo to 15 BPM with Link enabled or sending MIDI clock, all other apps will run at 15 BPM as well. That’s usually not desirable. I was wondering if it might not be possible to multiply the Link / Clock tempo that is sent - to allow a low BPM in Quantum without adversely affecting other apps. Or, to flip it around, to be able to receive a higher Link / Clock rate and divide it to have a slower master tempo internally.

    I know you can do this at the rack and part level, but you’ve mentioned more than once that you use very slow master tempos - in this case to get longer notes. That’s often not great for playing with other apps.

    +1

  • I believe you can set the master tempo to match link but you can set your sequence or pert tempo to rum at multiples of the main tempo. The upper area with improper fractions give you slower tempos and the lower area with regular fractions give you faster tempos.

    Sorry if this isn't what you are looking for.

  • wimwim
    edited November 2017

    @CracklePot said:
    I believe you can set the master tempo to match link but you can set your sequence or pert tempo to rum at multiples of the main tempo. The upper area with improper fractions give you slower tempos and the lower area with regular fractions give you faster tempos.

    Sorry if this isn't what you are looking for.

    Thanks, but that doesn’t quite do it. Sure you can divide or multiply per rack and part, but there are some advantages to having a very slow master tempo. That doesn’t play that well with other apps. But I appreciate you taking the time to advise. B)

    Honestly it’s not a big deal for me. I was just offering a feature suggestion for consideration.

    - Cheers!

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