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Zeeon Universal + new presets IAP

Just bought Brice bank! Great as allways!

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  • And me instant buy when I saw it just putting on my iPhone now cool.

  • Is this now universal or 2 separate versions as the app on my iPhone is asking for payment £9.99 but I already own it on iPad ?

  • Is universal. i didnt have to pay a penny

  • @Jumpercollins said:
    Is this now universal or 2 separate versions as the app on my iPhone is asking for payment £9.99 but I already own it on iPad ?

    According to Apple, you shouldn't be charged twice. Its a single universal app, that you already own. I hope there are no problems with this.

  • @Jumpercollins said:
    Is this now universal or 2 separate versions as the app on my iPhone is asking for payment £9.99 but I already own it on iPad ?

    Log out and log in again to your appstore account solves the problem.

  • New presets sound amazing. One thing I notice I appreciate in other apps is when the preset makers can add notes to their presets. Model-15 and LayR allows this, and it usually give me an idea of how to use the preset, and/or what to tweak to make it even better. Just saying I notice I'm missing that in most other synths, including Zeeon, as I know @brice usually have surprises hidden in there when things are being tweaked, but now I literally have to test tweak everything (which perhaps is not a bad thing per se, but which also can be destructive and can use up quite a lot of time).

    Regarding "universal": yes, for me the phone also asks me to pay for it again, but it does exist in my "previous purchases" too.

  • edited November 2017

    I was told it cost £9.99 but when I clicked on Buy another dialog popped up and said it would be free as I had already purchased. It's a rubbish way to order the dialogs but it does the right thing, eventually.

  • Can’t see it on the German App Store on my iPhone, already have the iPad version

  • Wow new zeeon sound pack ?xmas is definitely here already

  • @Jocphone said:
    I was told it cost £9.99 but when I clicked on Buy another dialog popped up and said it would be free as I had already purchased. It's a rubbish way to order the dialogs but it does the right thing, eventually.

    Agreed - it won't stop sales to devs, but may stop you enjoying it on the move. But it is misleading forcing you to check the description for 'universal app'...

  • @handed said:
    Can’t see it on the German App Store on my iPhone, already have the iPad version

    It doesn't find it using keywords (yet) - look for sunrizer/beepstreet

  • Both sound packs are inspiring :)

  • Oh, finally it´s there. Bought it and the both IAP too since i want to support universal versions.
    Also the synth itself is so cheap that i feel better to pay a bit for some extra patches to get inspired.
    Now i hope to find some time to dive in and see what i get out of this.

  • edited November 2017

    So a little review after the first contact. It´s not all positive, so beware if you just want to hear that common "it´s all amazing" thing which i hear a bit too often in the iOS world. I also think it doesn´t help developers or undecided customers. But in general i really really like it!
    It´s def. in my top list.
    The default patches are O.K. but not as good as the IAP.
    I´m especially a fan from the Brice patches because they fit my style and a lot of these patches are made also for performance and act great if you play them with different velocities etc. like you would play an acoustic instrument like f.e. a piano.
    Also a lot of these patches are really on a pro level like i would expect from sound designers like Kevin Schroeder or Howard Scarr.
    Zeeon synth engine itself is great and i like especially the filters and the envelopes can be very snappy (good for drums and percussive sounds, but Dagger seems a bit better here).
    The FX are good but not outstanding. The biggest downside is the delay which gets terrible artefacst if you change the delay time. The delay in Model 15 is still the very best in iOS land.
    The chorus is my fav here. Sounds tasty. The phaser and Reverb are good too but not top of the line (just my opinion of course).
    The mod-matrix is great and offers a lot options to go wild and go even close in some areas to a modular environment.
    This thing can great create some great pads and especially brass sounds. Some great keys and percussive sounds are possible too. The bass.....awesome. The low end is almost to much and it´s hard to get the "dirt" out of this synth but this is part of Zeeon´s character so it´s not a negative thing at all. Just sometimes hard to fit that juice in a mix :)
    Of course i will dive a lot deeper into it and see how far i can go with it.
    It´s a really fantastic synth and in the vintage/analog area it´s my favorite one together with Model 15 which is maybe more versatile due to it´s modular environment but Zeeon anyway won´t cover that Moog area but nearly everything else which was famous ;)
    The unison is powerful too but the best unison in any iOS synth is still iOdyssei for me. It just sound more massive than everything else and don´t get thinner and phase out so much if you turn it up. But Zeeon is the second here for me.
    Audio rate stuff seems great in Zeeon and live tweaking of parameters sound smooth like i want it.
    I def. will also (try to) make a patch bank (or several small which focus on certain themes/style of sounds).
    For the price.....get it and it´s def. worth to get both the IAP which are great and also very playable.

  • @Cib said:
    So a little review after the first contact. It´s not all positive, so beware if you just want to hear that common "it´s all amazing" thing which i hear a bit too often in the iOS world. I also think it doesn´t help developers or undecided customers. But in general i really really like it!
    It´s def. in my top list.
    The default patches are O.K. but not as good as the IAP.
    I´m especially a fan from the Brice patches because it´s fit my style and a lot of these patches are made also for performance and act great if you play them with different velocities etc. like you would play a acoustic instruments like f.e. a piano.
    Also a lot of these patches are really on a pro level like i would expect from sound designers like Kevin Schroeder or Howard Scarr.
    Zeeon synth engine itself is great and i like especially the filters and the envelopes can be very snappy (good for drums and percussive sounds, but Dagger seems a bit better here).
    The FX are good but not outstanding. The biggest downside is the delay which gets terrible artefacst if you change the delay time. The delay in Model 15 is still the very best in iOS land.
    The chorus is my fav here. Sounds tasty. The phaser and Reverb are good too but not top of the line (just my opinion of course).
    The mod-matrix is great and offers a lot options to go wild and go even close in some areas to a modular environment.
    This thing can great some great pads and especially brass sounds. Some great keys and percussive sounds are possible too. The bass.....awesome. The low end is almost to much and it´s hard to get the "dirt" out of this synth but this is part of Zeeon´s character so it´s not a negative thing at all. Just sometimes hard to fit that juice in a mix :)
    Of course i will dive a lot deeper into it and see how far i can go with it.
    It´s a really fantastic synth and in the vintage/analog area it´s my favorite one together with Model 15 which is maybe more versatile due to it´s modular environment but Zeeon anyway won´t cover that Moog area but nearly everything else which was famous ;)
    The unison is powerful too but the best unison in any iOS synth is still iOdyssei for me. It just sound more massive than everything else and don´t get thinner and phase out so much if you turn it up. But Zeeon is the second here for me.
    Audio rate stuff seems great in Zeeon and live tweaking of parameters sound smooth like i want it.
    I def. will also (try to) make a patch bank (or several small which focus on certain themes/style of sounds).
    For the price.....get it and it´s def. worth to get both the IAP which are great and also very playable.

    That’s fair. No synth is perfect and perfect reviews are a tad pointless lol

  • @Cib said:

    The default patches are O.K. but not as good as the IAP.

    That’s how it should be :) Paid patches should take things to another level IMO

  • Yay!!

    See? iPhone versions are considered important by this senior developer.

    Beep street is a veteran and I’m grateful for his output over the years. Sunrizer is still one of the very best.

    Thanks @giku_beepstreet

    You have my money

  • Remember that iap presets were made by people who spent time “crafting”.

    Just a little time and effort pays off... if one understands how aspects of a synth change the original sine or saw, then crafting your own is not a drag, rather a pleasure

    I can’t wait to launch this on my phone

  • It’s not universal until it comes to my Apple Watch. I have four watches on my arm ready for a synth-extravaganza performance.

  • @Cib Thanks for this fair review. I agree with everything. Delay crackles during knob twiddling, this sucks. Smoothing this took a lot of CPU, working on this. Reverb is the same as in Sunrizer. Spent a lot of time on chorus and BBD simulation. Im quite happy about phaser as well- its zero delay architecture - lets play with feedback.

  • edited November 2017

    Woohoot! Nice new patches!

  • Thanks for the IAPs (dev and crafters). Happy to spend my Friday money supporting this kind of effort, especially from known offenders :)

  • @ipadthai said:
    It’s not universal until it comes to my Apple Watch. I have four watches on my arm ready for a synth-extravaganza performance.

    Lmao.
    ...
    ...
    You're kidding, right?

  • Anyone else having trouble buying/loading the IAPs? I updated Zeeon, purchased the BB pack, and the spinning wheel appears to show it DLing, but no presets appear. I've tried iPad reset, restoring purchases, and even re-purchasing, all to no avail. Frustrating!

  • edited November 2017

    I still can't see it in the app store on my phone. Is the new version iOS 11 only (I'm on 10.3.3)?

    Nevermind. Signed out and back in to app store and it showed up in my purchased. All good. Thanks! Buying some presets now!

  • edited November 2017

    Edit: never mind

  • @giku_beepstreet said:

    @Jumpercollins said:
    Is this now universal or 2 separate versions as the app on my iPhone is asking for payment £9.99 but I already own it on iPad ?

    Log out and log in again to your appstore account solves the problem.

    It seems the way it works now, is that you just have to go to your "purchased" apps, then get the iPhone version from there. It used to be that if you already owned it, that it'd just show up as available to download. But now, any app you own on the iPad, that goes universal... if you go to purchased instead of straight to the app in the top level of the store, it shows up as available to download.

    This way/change makes sense, but it's confusing if you're used to it being a different way for so long.

  • @sch said:
    Anyone else having trouble buying/loading the IAPs? I updated Zeeon, purchased the BB pack, and the spinning wheel appears to show it DLing, but no presets appear. I've tried iPad reset, restoring purchases, and even re-purchasing, all to no avail. Frustrating!

    Works fine here (12.9/latest).

  • I need to keep my appoholism down but I got both the patchbanks and FoldR.
    Next one will be Odessa and then I'll stay put until the Gadget and Cubasis updates drop...

  • edited November 2017

    Coming from hardware (and computer plugins), I’m still amazed at how cheap everything is in the land of iOS. $16 total for the synth and all those IAP presets. Crazy times we live in.

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