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AUM channel presets?
I've not kept abreast of AUM development. Is there a way to save a channel preset, separate from a project preset? Ideally something that could be appended to the current setup?
The main use case I'm after is being able to recall incoming MIDI CC to AU parameter mappings. So I could, say, load my "Ripplemaker channel" preset and have CC71 will always map to filter cut off without doing it manually each time.
I realize I can create a single instance of Ripplemaker and save this as an AUM preset with mailings intact. I'm specifically wondering about appending that single channel preset to a current set of loaded AUM channels instead of replacing it.
And, perhaps, hopefully, having the MIDI channel mapping correspond to the current channel number by default the way Volume does. That way, I could load two instances of the preset and just switch the MIDI channel on my control to flip between controlling instance one and instance two.
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Channel presets is an interesting idea. Perhaps by long-pressing the big + button, a popup would show all channel presets/templates. But I wonder if it would not be more useful for you to have save/load for AU--param-midi-mappings? So after loading some specific AU, one could go into the corresponding midi mapping view and recall a previously saved mapping.
Some way to quickly change the MIDI channel for all parameters in a group is on my TODO already. Or perhaps better, a special AUTO midi channel value that uses the channel strip's index/position as MIDI channel.
I would use these features a lot, both channel presets and save/load midi mappings
Without getting too complicated in structure with projects AND templates wouldn't it be easier just to have the chance to load a project into another one? Like I already have a bunch of tracks and want to add my usual sends(not the best choice because it implies routing) so I open up the load menu, select my UsualSends proj and a pop up tells me if I want to load session(tempo and routing) or just the tracks?
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Any/all of that would work for my specific needs here. Love the idea of long pressing the +.
One additional benefit of channel presets is the ability to quickly load your favorite "master" channel. Or even default channel... I'm personally partial to one pre and one post fader and send per channel. My default AUM 'template' that I load has this set for four channels but if I add another another channel, I do it by hand. I also almost always have a HPF on effect returns (or those where I'm not using AUFX anyway). Being able to pull up my default Duplicat channel would be dreamy!
import/merge channels from saved presets would be useful too.
This is exactly the workflow I was hoping I missed. I agree that it seems a very simple way to go about it. It makes it a little more awkward to save single channels — you either have to make a project with the intent on doing that or the save dialog has to add noise asking if you want to save a specific channel (bad!). But it also makes it easier to save sets of channels (which could not easily be brought up via long press on the big plus), like different delay+reverb+master compressor channel combos. I could see the sets version being even more appealing in a post-Odessa universe.
It would make a bit awkward to save a project with only one track but no extra pop ups, no extra file format for templates or project(at least for the end user). And it would be easier, as you said, to merge projects which would be great for multi out apps such as SeekBeats eg.
And now some fantasies.
I think that bussing should be left out of this equation, even if it is internal(8 parts+fx sending 1 master) since busses channels are no more than 8 and it will eventually cause logic conflicts when trying to add a non existent bus. But then how would be possible to exclude bussing on load?
Here's one idea of how it could be done:
^sounds great, some way of organising the sessions with folders would be useful too along with this
Yep! It already handles opening session in folders (you can arrange with the Files app) but needs a way to select/create a folder when saving.
This sounds basically perfect to me. None of it gets in the way of the current UX. Maybe one day there could be a hidden flag set on single-channel 'projects' (or those saved via channel edit anyway) so that when you long-press the big + button, channel strips are grouped together or presented first or whatever.
More I think about it, the more I love this. Would/could the channel strips MIDI channel filter override the index/position channel? Not sure how needed that would be in practice. Just wondering.
The abilit to add/merge projects to existing projects, especially with (de)select option is !!!!!
One feature I've wanted in AUM since forever is the ability to move more quickly from channel to channel. Sometimes I swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe, etc. to get to the reverb bus for example. Maybe simple jump-arrows near the top to skip eight (or user-defined amount) channels over.
Supercool feature request!
Can we catch a screenshot of your default AUM setup?
One feature I recently wished was in AUM was to have the ability of making midi bindings to the 'intersections' of the midi routings matrix.
That way we could toggle on and off connections remotely quickly.
I've recently been working on a mega setup with all gear and devices controlled by AUM/X-Station/Digitakt and the matrix is huge and spaghetti-like.
There are occasions where I'd like to toggle off connections temporarily. Can be done on screen obviously, but a quick midi button press would be cool. Especially as the matrix is now huge and needs swiping to locate hidden connections.
Apologies for piggybacking in your thread Prof!
Yeah maybe, or you could just arrange your template-files as you wish. For example, save all your single-channels in a "Channel Templates" folder. (Yes, saving to folders is implemented and coming very soon!)
Hmm, for starters the MIDI channel filter of hosted MIDI-receiving nodes would probably just be ignored in this regard.
Yeah, some kind of "bookmarks" or pages etc is also something I've been thinking of. It hasn't "landed" yet though. Some features must wait years before they land in my brain and feels thought out enough to implement
With regard to swipe swipe swipe, I’m a big fan of the way Behringer implemented the X32-Mix iOS app, which has a fixed 8 channels per page, and a small thumbnail of each page across the top of the app with live level indicators, which also serve as page selectors. [It’s a free app and has a Demo mode if you don’t have a real mixer to connect to, if you want to try it out]
If you’ve ever used an X32 digital mixer and compared it to a Mackie — which relies on swiping left and right for channels, as AUM does — I find the fixed paging to be much more quick and precise. With swiping, you have to pay attention to the channels as they scroll by, and a particular fader can occupy any location on the screen, making it harder to learn subconsciously. With fixed pages, channels are always in a fixed place on screen, and you could group all your inputs on a page, all FX busses on a page, etc., with Reverb always left-most, for instance. Makes learning and recall much easier. I’ve used an X32 extensively for live sound, almost always running it through the iPad interface, and I love the workflow.
I've been using AUM since launch and love the uncluttered modular design. I'm sure a lot of thoughtful consideration goes into the UI and know you wouldn't add features without them 'landing' gracefully.
Merging projects seems a natural step in the modular design. The option to (de)select which channels are added is brilliant!
For the ability to quickly scroll though a large project, perhaps something like common eReaders - press a button for a project overview then tap on a channel to go there. Perhaps that's more works than 'jump X channels to the right/left'.
These sound great improvements. I like the idea of bookmarks, as projects get bigger a way to zoom into parts of the mixer (midi selectable) would be useful. I think there was talk of being an overview screen like the one you get when you move a channel. Being able to (midi) select an overview would be nice also (its possible these are here already, Im constantly finding neat items in the submenus).
Loving all these awesome ideas!
@j_liljedahl isn't that a pretty solution? If you could group x channels and give the group a label. If that group is wider than the size of the screen then just swipe. That way you don't need fixed number of channels per group. And also it would pretty much work as AUM is working today.
Lets say you can have maximum x number of groups, then there could be a minimap (thumbnail) always visible somewhere for easy access to groups. Since max number of groups is fixed the minimap will have a fixed size on the screen. The minimap could highlight used groups and current group. Empty group may be grayed out. Sorry for so many details. It's the concept I'm after.
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Yep, that's pretty much how I imagined "bookmarks". But instead of a group, a bookmark could simply be "scroll so that this channel is at the left edge of the screen".
It might not be possible to keep them (thumbnails/buttons) visible on the screen all the time, at least not on all screen sizes. In that case, I hope a simple drop-down button would suffice.
Kanske...
Couple of other MIDI control hopes for you @j_liljedahl. Figured I’d add them here with the talk of MIDI maps.
For those with multiple controllers, sometimes used at different times (say, live vs studio) it would be epic if controls we set per port. So if controllerA is connected, channel 1 volume might be mapped to ch9/cc42 and if controllerB is connected, it might be mapped to ch1/cc7. If they’re both connected, either works. The right honorable @Michael made Loopy work this way and it’s extremely useful. In practical terms, it means you can use a foot controller and/or a desktop slider box to control the same software controls. Since my setup morphs depending on what I’m doing, this is incredibly handy! I don’t think this is all that important for hosted software mapping (synths, etc). Mostly dreaming about it for built in AUM controls.
Would also love to see the tempo/metronome settings available to midi control as well. In particular, midi tap tempo (another dreamy bit from Loopy actually).
So long as I’m dreaming in public, another idea somewhat on the scrolling topic raised by others... been thinking it would be great to have a ‘Hide Inserts’ toggle that would allow for all of the channels to squish up some, showing more channels at once. In this mode, the big buttons on the top and bottom would align with the volume slider to maximize screen real estate.
Mostly thinking a simple global toggle but if I actually consider most of my AUM setups, most of the channels do not have inserts or sends at all. Means almost half the horizontal visual space is used by nothing. Makes me wonder if this might eventually be best suited to a per channel setting.
Been using AUM a lot recently for setting up to jam with my friend. The controller mapping is awesome and allows me to switch parameter settings instantly (thanks to the 0% to 100% option), modulate almost anything with expression pedals, and fire off pre-recorded loops with foot controls. @j_liljedahl has been great answering my questions as well. Thank you!
I agree with the topic here. I’d love to be able to save a channel preset. I actually use several of the built in parametric eqs in series to tweak my electric banjo input, and having to set it up each time or always start from a template project can be cumbersome.
Anyway, I think this might be the place, but I just want to share a few more ideas for features that I would love to see and would pay for.
Per-track Metering. The three dots aren’t enough to judge levels. The meters could be underlayed (?) in the fader area, and have an option to toggle off if it affects CPU too much for a device.
MIDI Ctrl for Node Bypass. Just an additional option in the controllers list of a channel to bypass any node/effect. Basically the same as sliding it over to the left into partial eject mode.
Multiple files in a single File Player. This feature would be the icing on the cake for me. Basically you could load a “stack” of files/loops as the source of a channel and launch them on the quantum (like Ableton, only one plays at a time on the channel). A cool way to implement this would be to swipe down on a File Player, then the insert nodes disappear and instead you have a vertical ine of circles/files that you could add and switch between (launch) with a single press or assign a MIDI control to toggle from one to the next or to a specific one.
Ok I’m done. Don’t want to overload, but the Channel Presets and Metering would be huge! 🤓
Yes please we need channel presets with effects. I have to save all AU effects presets individually and even do AUM screenshots to keep effects orders in mind for specific tasks when I have to reproduce from project to project.
What aum really needs is buttons that you could recall the state of au plugin windows from
@j_liljedahl One more vote for channel presets and/or project merging. I have several sounds dialed in that I want to reuse in another project without having to rebuild it from scratch. Sometimes the sound requires two or more channels--one for sound and another one or more for the Rozeta pieces. So being able to merge projects I think is more useful than being able to save only a singe channel. Having both options -- channel presents and project merging -- would be great
Is there a way to sort AUM channels by moving them to the left or to the right? Can‘t find it.
Hold the channel as you move your finger upward. Then you can move the channel left or right.
Haha... I was asking myself exactly that about a couple of days ago. I decided to see the documentation from inside the app and BANG... it is there, on the first page.
It remains me that sometimes we (me the first one) don't look in the obvious places and go crazy figuring out...
Theres more interesting stuff on the AUM manual. Very well written.
Would be great to group multi outs, so rather than having 16 pulse multiout channels taking up a lot of the screen.
They expand when you hit a little icon perhaps