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Anyone knows how this compares to Virsyn Harmony Voice? I was thinking of getting HV, but didn't know about this one. This seems more gimmicky though, yet it's more expensive.
I did watch a few YT videos just now and Voice Synth appears to create more artifacts too, but those videos were rather old so that may have improved in the meantime.
I'd want to use the app for adding background vocals and such, not for sounding like a robot or a dog.
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@mmp, Voice Synth is a little better than Harmony Voice in my opinion. I like iVoxel way better than Harmony Voice from Virsyn.
This as IAA and Auria on iPad 2 is a no go. Also, why do they specifically recommend using IAA over Audiobus at this stage? IAA is a mess in its current state.
In Looptical, Voice Synth must be started first. I can get Looptical to switch to Voice Synth but can't get VS to switch back to Looptical. Otherwise, IAA works fine. Another observation is, if you're counting on Looptical to set buffer at 512, VS will set to 256 if started first. A workaround is to start another app like Audiobus first to set 512 buffer. You can close it down after Looptical is started.
@Boone51, what makes VS better than HV?
I'm more interested in the voice-doubling, harmony and auto-tune functions than in vocoder-type processing, so I haven't looked at iVoxel.
@mmp, I found that I got more artifacts with HV in my own little experience. Neither app was "killer" though, at least not for what I was looking for. They both felt toy like (Sorry). I still find that VocalLive offers the best vocal processing on an iDevice as far as doubling and autotune (and chorus) are concerned.
I'll be beta testing Singaling. The Dev really wants it to be the best. I'll keep you informed when I can.
I upgraded my IPad 3 16gb today to IOS7 and tested VS inside Auria and couldn't operate them together no matter what i did.
If I open Auria first than VS via the FX IAA entry then VS loads with no audio out.
If I open VS first than Auria then opening from Auria via IAA does open it but there are audio artifacts and all effects sound bad.
I got info from Dev that helped.
Hi Morris,
Thanks for the compliment and direct feedback on inter-app audio! I tested your issues and here are my findings (note we are all new in this area):
IAA makes use of "inputs" and "effects". Voice Synth can be both. I just acquired Looptical and it seems to support only inputs (please tell me if there is some place to insert effects).
Normally, iOS should then connect the Voice Synth output to Looptical, but as Looptical does not provide any signal to Voice Synth, iOS should continue feeding the mic into Voice Synth.
Sometimes iOS does, sometimes it does not! There seem to be bugs left in Apple's IAA.
But...: it may also be the case that although you select Voice Synth as input, Looptical wrongly selects Voice Synth as effect. Then the mic signal cannot arrive in Voice Synth unless Looptical provides it (which it does not for what it thinks is an input).
Anyway, if you select "Sampler" mode in Voice Synth, you hear the audio connection to Looptical works fine.
If you have issues depending on which app was started first, this is a known bug in iOS7.0, and we reported this to Apple. Voice Synth as host gives a hint as workaround: kill the input or effect app (double tap home button and swipe app up. If app is not visible start it manually and kill it), and retry to connect within the host.
As for the latency setting 256/512: in iOS audio, no app can or could ever set its latency. Really! It can only ask iOS for some preferred latency, and iOS then makes an informed decision on what the app really gets. So in IAA, if you connect Voice Synth (prefers 256) to some other app which prefers 512, Voice Synth will automatically follow the longer latency. (In audiobus the latency setting really does something because it can operate independent from Apple audio. This may sound advantageous but it is not as it bugs the user with a technical issue that the apps and iOS together can solve better).
Lastly, to go from Voice Synth to Looptical, open the "rout" panel and tap Looptical's icon. That's it!
Please let us know if this helps you out.
Thanks,
André
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Voice Synth & IVoxel are both awesome, but if you want Autotune and Harmony for vocals, try Improvox.
I made it work by opening VS first and than Auria.
http://auriaapp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=11202
IAA is a strange thing. I know Apple will fix it and all V1.0 problems will go away....
@NoiseHorse, I find Improvox to be very bad as far as latency is concerned. I feel like I do when I get feedback in my cell phone sometimes and can't finish the sentence because my brain shuts off from hearing myself talk delayed by about a half second.
Thanks all!
What I don't like about VocaLive is that apparently you cannot combine any of the specific vocal effects so it's either Choir or Pitch Fix or De-Esser (I have the IAP version inside AmpliTube)...and then there are the pop-up ads of course...
Bad latency would certainly disqualify ImproVox for me.
So it's still between Voice Synth and Harmony Voice for me I think...
@mmp - the IAP version doesn't offer all of the same features as the standalone app, I don't remember the differences but there are some, the price is cheaper I believe as IAP which maybe why not all features included. Whether it affects specifically what you're talking about or not I'm not sure
I think it's the same for the standalone, at least that's what I gathered from the IK forum, which means you can still only chain one of the vocals effects with up to three standard effects, depending on your device (phone or tablet) even in the standalone.
The IAP version is cheaper because it doesn't include the 'standard' effects such as reverb and delay (which one'd already have within Amplitube).
voice synth does the harmony and autotune stuff but it's also capable of a vast array of other interesting synth sounds. I love it a lot.
Voice Synth is very flexibke but always sounds rather robotic to me, whereas Harmony Voice produces cleaner sounding harmonies, so it depends on what kind of effect you are after.
Thanks Phil, that's what I thought when listening to videos of the two.
Voice Synth probably has more features and has been updated most recently, but Harmony Voice seems to sound more natural which I think is most important.
Also I'm very impressed with Virsyn's recent Cube Synth...
I never even thought about how "natural" Voice Synth sounds. I've always just thought of it as a vocoder and sound mangler. And I think it is very good at what it does. iVoxel is good for doing melodic vocoder vocals, but I prefer VS overall.
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Looks like Voice Synth is going to be jumping off the bus! Damn shame!
what do you mean?
nevermind,saw the other thread
Why what happened?? I just bought it two days ago wtf
Jumping off the bus makes no sense. Where did you hear that?
Thanks. I saw the other thread since I posted. It seems like a step backwards to me, especially with the release of AB2.
Shit. There goes the 'Update All' button. Forever. I love this app.
I actually sent him an email a couple of months back when multi-route AB was announced asking if he had plans to support it for both signals in the vocoder (because, hi, AWESOME) and got a bit of a rant back about the stability of the AB SDK.
I'm not on Facebook, but if I was I would complain about this ridiculous decision. Those of you that can comment on the FB page ought to.