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KORG Gadget Vancouver │ The Gadget Sampler we've waited for │ iPad & iPhone - haQ attaQ 252

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  • @Samu said:

    @jakoB_haQ said:
    Thanks everyone! And thanks @samu for replying to the various questions.

    My pleasure!

    Under iOS11 Gadget has some 'issues' with laggy touch response on the piano-roll keys on the left side of the screen. It's the same 'thing' that plagues some other apps and I know Korg will fix it at some point.

    And Files.app support is still missing but I have some hopes for the 3.5.1 update or so if the Korg dudes keep their eyes open. It will be / and is a 'game changer' for file-sharing between apps.

    If you haven't already, mess around with assigning the knobs on the nanoKEY to some other parameters than the defaults when using Vancouver. It can get very close to a Volca Sample :)

    Thank you Big Sam. I've had a nanoKEY for awhile but bought it mostly for its blue tooth and throw-in-any-bag capability. Embarrasses me to say I'd never bothered with any knob twiddling until now. Really good stuff.

  • Who in blazes would make a sampler these days without some sort of time stretch.. Does Korg not know how to do that? Good grief!

  • @ErrkaPetti said:

    @Martygras said:

    @greengrocer said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Thanks so much for this, Jacob. Would love to see a tutorial on best practices for rolling your own samples.

    Random thought: Is the name "Vancouver" supposed to put one in mind of "Volca"? (I'd assume Volgograd was unappealing.)

    It strikes me that there are no Russian names. I have the idea that Korg avoids it. Especially the music world is ditate by PC nonsense. And Russia is of course the enemy.

    Kiev?

    Kiev is not Russia...
    It’s Ukraine (does it spells like that?)...

    For now.

  • @Samu said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    .

    Shortest comparison I can make is that ANYTHING KORG sounds a bit 'dull, dead & sterile'

    I had to edit your post. Promise I’m not a hater, and I find use for the Korgs from time to time.

  • @wim said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @Martygras said:

    @greengrocer said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Thanks so much for this, Jacob. Would love to see a tutorial on best practices for rolling your own samples.

    Random thought: Is the name "Vancouver" supposed to put one in mind of "Volca"? (I'd assume Volgograd was unappealing.)

    It strikes me that there are no Russian names. I have the idea that Korg avoids it. Especially the music world is ditate by PC nonsense. And Russia is of course the enemy.

    Kiev?

    Kiev is not Russia...
    It’s Ukraine (does it spells like that?)...

    For now.

    https://media1.giphy.com/media/d0NnEG1WnnXqg/200w.gif

  • @Telstar5 said:
    Who in blazes would make a sampler these days without some sort of time stretch.. Does Korg not know how to do that? Good grief!

    It’s a bit naff tbh. I reckon they strapped two Sir Sampleton’s together with gaffa tape. Saying that I still want it, but not sure I want it for a tenner.

  • @greengrocer said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Thanks so much for this, Jacob. Would love to see a tutorial on best practices for rolling your own samples.

    Random thought: Is the name "Vancouver" supposed to put one in mind of "Volca"? (I'd assume Volgograd was unappealing.)

    It strikes me that there are no Russian names. I have the idea that Korg avoids it. Especially the music world is ditate by PC nonsense. And Russia is of course the enemy.

    I like arguments like this. The reason for not so many russian names for Korg apps is: "PC"! Hey, and they really could give a gadget then name "Putin" or another well known russian politician. Or just "Beresovski", "Krasnodar", "Gussinski", "Potanin", "Plekhanov", "Abramovich", "Новоросси́йск", "Prochorov", "Deripaska, "Yanukovych, "Alekperov", "Usmanov" or "Melnichenko".

    Yeah! Why not? PC! This has to be the ruling reason for it. PC activist are ruining our live. I also miss the name of greek transgender people in the Korg Gadget. Why they are missing? Why????

    PC!

    Random argument: Here in Germany, we seldomly use russian names for products. That's because of PC, you already know. But some German products have names like "Putinoff", "Jelzin" or "Gorbatschow". They are in my kitchen, it is real - i could make a photo of it: 3 bottles of Vodka.

    So, there is a bit hope for russian named products. Oh, and i would appreciate a free Korg Gadget with the name "Vodka".

    Absolutely.

    ;-)

  • @Telstar5 said:
    Korg are you listening?

    You are the optimist :)

  • Great video Jacob. I have just discovered that both samples can have their start/end/loop length/reverse all automated separately and of course at the same time. This total automation is not of course unusual for Gadgets- it doesn't half boost up the creative possibilities.

  • @Halftone said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    The speed changes with the pitch? In the year 2017? Highly impractical then.. Maybe in future updates.. Korg are you listening?

    Does Korg ever listen?

    We made some noise about iMono/Poly’s poor initial midi control and KORG responded by implementing full Midi Learn within 4 weeks of release.

    So maybe they listen sometimes?

  • @Looping_Loddar said:

    @greengrocer said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Thanks so much for this, Jacob. Would love to see a tutorial on best practices for rolling your own samples.

    Random thought: Is the name "Vancouver" supposed to put one in mind of "Volca"? (I'd assume Volgograd was unappealing.)

    It strikes me that there are no Russian names. I have the idea that Korg avoids it. Especially the music world is ditate by PC nonsense. And Russia is of course the enemy.

    I like arguments like this. The reason for not so many russian names for Korg apps is: "PC"! Hey, and they really could give a gadget then name "Putin" or another well known russian politician. Or just "Beresovski", "Krasnodar", "Gussinski", "Potanin", "Plekhanov", "Abramovich", "Новоросси́йск", "Prochorov", "Deripaska, "Yanukovych, "Alekperov", "Usmanov" or "Melnichenko".

    Yeah! Why not? PC! This has to be the ruling reason for it. PC activist are ruining our live. I also miss the name of greek transgender people in the Korg Gadget. Why they are missing? Why????

    PC!

    Random argument: Here in Germany, we seldomly use russian names for products. That's because of PC, you already know. But some German products have names like "Putinoff", "Jelzin" or "Gorbatschow". They are in my kitchen, it is real - i could make a photo of it: 3 bottles of Vodka.

    So, there is a bit hope for russian named products. Oh, and i would appreciate a free Korg Gadget with the name "Vodka".

    Absolutely.

    ;-)

    You don't get the irony in my statement that btw @ExAsperis99 did get.
    btw Korg gadets are named after cities, it just strikes me that a gadget called Moscow is missing so far. If you could come up with a logical reason for this so far left out ommission of Moscow other than I mentioned we have a discussion, else I see your response as a childish effort to make my response look ridiculcous.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    Who in blazes would make a sampler these days without some sort of time stretch.. Does Korg not know how to do that? Good grief!

    It’s a bit naff tbh. I reckon they strapped two Sir Sampleton’s together with gaffa tape. Saying that I still want it, but not sure I want it for a tenner.

    Yeah, at £5 it would be a no-brainer.

  • edited November 2017

    @PhilW said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    Who in blazes would make a sampler these days without some sort of time stretch.. Does Korg not know how to do that? Good grief!

    It’s a bit naff tbh. I reckon they strapped two Sir Sampleton’s together with gaffa tape. Saying that I still want it, but not sure I want it for a tenner.

    Yeah, at £5 it would be a no-brainer.

    To be honest Gadget should provide this sort of functionality as standard - it's not a clever recreation of a classic synth, or a painstaking reconstruction of a popular drum machine....it's a very basic sample player. Regular price is £15, which is a piss-take really, when you think what we've already paid, and Mac users are getting them for nowt. But yeah, a fiver and I'd give them more money.

    I'm talking myself out of it again.

  • edited November 2017

    (...)

    @greengrocer

    I don't agree that i tried to make your statement and sentiment ridiculous. I was joking around and just made some fun out of it. I never thought about the idea that the naming of Korg Gadgets really is of importance for you. It wasnt meant to make you feel bad.

    Sorry, that you couldn't enjoy it. I thought you maybe have the same taste of humor. Maybe we should better concentrate our discussion towards Vancouver or haQ attaQ 252. I don't think it is important what i think about discussions "pro" or "against" PC. If you ask me, these discussions are just a waste of time and emotions, absolutely regardless of the arguments and direction you (or i or anybody) take here.

    Maybe this is the very fascinating thing about it, a kind of a black hole in the internet...
    :D

  • @robosardine said:
    Great video Jacob. I have just discovered that both samples can have their start/end/loop length/reverse all automated separately and of course at the same time. This total automation is not of course unusual for Gadgets- it doesn't half boost up the creative possibilities.

    ..... just like has been said several times already earlier in the thread :*

  • @Samu : Do you need the computer editor to automate a d assign those sample start-end parameters on the Nanokey studio?

  • @Telstar5 said:
    @Samu : Do you need the computer editor to automate a d assign those sample start-end parameters on the Nanokey studio?

    Nope, you can map them directly inside Gadget.
    (Ie. Press function in Gadget to bring up a list of cc’s tap a parameter and tweak a knob).

    I’ve not checked if the scenes already contain pre-mapped values...
    If you use two layers in Vancouver you need to map both layers to separate knobs.

  • Korg Vodka exists... but outside gadget and as standalone hardware mini boxes.
    Vodka beats.
    Vodka bass.
    Vodka keys.
    Vodka kick.
    Vodka sampler.
    Vodka mixer... I suppose for cocktails.
    :trollface:

  • edited February 2018

    "The sampler we've been waiting for"... heh, it's somehow ironic... thinking of the AKAI S1000 I used back in 1998 (20 years ago), which had a bazillion bazillion bazillion more features than the "sampler we've been waiting for", or probably ANY iOS sampler, in 2018... shows that iOS still has some way to go in terms of music production :D

    (Not to criticize the video, which is great as always of course!)

  • @SevenSystems said:
    "The sampler we've been waiting for"... heh, it's somehow ironic... thinking of the AKAI S1000 I used back in 1998 (20 years ago), which had a bazillion bazillion bazillion more features than the "sampler we've been waiting for", or probably ANY iOS sampler, in 2018... shows that iOS still has some way to go in terms of music production :D

    See the title. It's about awaited "Gadget Sampler"

  • @MAtrixplan yes, but even Gadget could do better! ;)

  • Thanks Samu!

  • @SevenSystems said:
    @MAtrixplan yes, but even Gadget could do better! ;)

    Yeah. Gadget could always do better :)

  • @MAtrixplan said:
    Yeah. Gadget could always do better :)

    Yeah well, sorry, didn't mean to appear complaining (it's what Germans do all the time :D)... I just find it funny that iOS has so many really great synths that rival the CURRENT hardware, but still not a single sampler that would rival a 20 year old machine... BM3 comes close but isn't really a standalone sampler (AU)... well anyway...

  • Even Vancouver does what I need it to do.. Also BM3 is being g upadated constantly

  • What doesn’t Bm3 do, except for the AU thing?

  • Yeah, I’m curious which features are missing from the BM3 sampler?

    @SevenSystems said:

    @MAtrixplan said:
    Yeah. Gadget could always do better :)

    Yeah well, sorry, didn't mean to appear complaining (it's what Germans do all the time :D)... I just find it funny that iOS has so many really great synths that rival the CURRENT hardware, but still not a single sampler that would rival a 20 year old machine... BM3 comes close but isn't really a standalone sampler (AU)... well anyway...

    @Telstar5 said:
    What doesn’t Bm3 do, except for the AU thing?

  • @Telstar5 @Beathoven not sure currently and I don't have access to an iPad right now, but yeah, maybe it is even on par feature-wise. What it definitely doesn't do AFAIK is read any kind of standard sample libraries or formats, like AKAI, E-mu, Soundfont, SFZ?

  • @Dubbylabby said:
    Korg Vodka exists... but outside gadget and as standalone hardware mini boxes.
    Vodka beats.
    Vodka bass.
    Vodka keys.
    Vodka kick.
    Vodka sampler.
    Vodka mixer... I suppose for cocktails.
    :trollface:

    hehehe...you are a very daft person Dubby :D

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @Dubbylabby said:
    Korg Vodka exists... but outside gadget and as standalone hardware mini boxes.
    Vodka beats.
    Vodka bass.
    Vodka keys.
    Vodka kick.
    Vodka sampler.
    Vodka mixer... I suppose for cocktails.
    :trollface:

    hehehe...you are a very daft person Dubby :D

    We need to laugh more at ourselves to fight against our own frustration. Vodka also helps.
    :smirk:

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