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I am pleased that Dave Hodder (Novation) dropped in here and I hope he continues to do so. Perhaps we iOS musicians are in a very small minority, compared to the mainstream. It would be really interesting to quantify that minority.
However, Novation/Focusrite must have a positive view on this because they have commissioned iOS apps to compliment Novation hardware products. Focusrite has taken the initiative to produce at least one iPad-centric hardware product (I'm thinking of iTrack Solo).
I wish Dave Hodder's counterpart in Focusrite would be as active as he, with regard to iOS apps to compliment Focusrite products. Not all iOS users are willing/able to use a PC/Mac in order to configure Focusrite hardware.
Apologies if I've taken this thread off-topic slightly.
@kwalker
SoundPrism does this and it works perfectly with many other iOS apps at the same time.
If so, that would mean Launchpad's sound engine is pretty inefficient and needs to be fixed. I doubt that's the case though. It certainly has nothing to do with Audiobus, especially since Audiobus uses up next to no resources at all.
I can appreciate Dave dropping by and trying to communicate with a potential customer base, even if it might come across as PR damage control. But I don't quite buy the "prioritizing the mass market" excuse. They're not dumbing down their hardware Launchpads, controllers, and synths for the "mass market". I do understand that they don't want to cannibalize sales for their Bass Station II, UltraNova/MiniNova, Launchpad S...etc. though. But as others already mentioned, just look at Korg for an example of what can be done on the iOS platform without jeopardizing hardware sales.
I think people just expect more from Novation with all their history, expertise, and resources and naturally set higher standards compared to much smaller independent developers. Novation could have done something phenomenal in this space. They could have beaten Ableton to the punch by essentially providing Live's session view on the iPad with the Launchpad app.
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So has anybody bought the IAP and given it a go? Has anybody tried syncing up their own loops? I absolutely love iOS music and audiobus but in terms of professional music making, Ableton is still miles ahead in terms of ease of use IMO. I've tried a million combinations of this iOS app and that iOS app with workaround after workaround and still Ableton is clear cut winner. Please somebody prove me wrong and show me the way as I love being on subway with iPad or iPhone.
I will probably buy IAP but now have to probably use an 1/8th inch to 1/4 inch adaptor and record into my iPhone. I'll also have to cut and edit loops in some other app, load it to Dropbox and get it into launch pad. Ughhh
well i just bought IAP sample import, it works....still need to get the recordings out and audiobus would be the ticket
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Thanks for all your responses, lots of interesting reading. There's no way I could elegantly reply to all of the points you raise, and frankly I'm not here to do that, I'm here to listen rather than to speak.
As such, I should probably resist the temptation to defend our team and our product decisions. It might be more interesting to let you know that I am in fact also my opposite number at Focusrite, so you can direct any Tape or Scarlett / iTrack Solo comments my way too. Yes, Focusrite's iOS software is a little behind, and yes, we're working on it.
I'd love to share our product backlog (list of features we intend to implement and when) but doing so would be making a promise that we might not be able to keep, which would do nobody any good. And anyway, as you rightly point out, it's the execution that matters, so we'll just get on with it!
Electrify
https://itunes.apple.com/es/app/electrify/id368419081?mt=8
@DaveHodder67: Many thanks for your comments and for clarifying your multi-hatted role. It's good to know that Focusrite/Novation is sympathetic to the needs of their iOS-enabled users (and potential users).
Dave,
Is there an automap for ipad ?
Good question.
Who will be the first developer to implement automapping of other apps' parameters?
There are currently no plans for a version of Automap for iPad. In terms of controlling other app's parameters, I'd have thought the cases where it would be really useful are quite specific, so there'd be little use for a more general controller app - am I right?
@DaveHodder67: I've been wondering about Automap too.
I'm planning to buy a controller keyboard to use with my iPad and am attracted to the Novation Impulse range. My main DAW is Auria, though I have others. I can't figure out, though, if I would need an iPad version of Automap to be the bridge between the Impulse and Auria's HUI/MCU support and its VST-like plugins.
What'd ya think, Dave?
Washboy, thanks so much for the tipoff! Apologies for the threadjacking to everyone else, I'm honestly not here to promote our products.
I've just plugged a Launchkey 49 into Auria and it works out of the box as a HUI - volume, pan, mute, solo, bank and transport controls all doing their thing. Launchkey Mini does volumes and banking only. I've not tested it with plugins, but note that the Launchkey does something slightly funky with it's pots to emulate the endless encoders of the real HUI, so you might get odd results with plugin parameters - if you can control them at all.
I must also stress that this hasn't been through any rigorous testing, but it does seem to do the job, at least for mixer control.
Thanks for the feedback, Dave. That's great news - but what about the Impulse? I'll reconsider the Launchkey but I get the impression that it's less robust than Impulse and the keybed isn't semi-weighted, is it?
BTW, I have a recollection that Auria is effectively ProTools, vis-a-vis HUI.
My apologies too for threadjacking (forumjacking, even!) but I reckon plenty of Auria users frequent these parts so I hope it may be of interest to a few others.
Oh dear, it seems I misread Impulse for Launchkey! Impulse works with a daemon for HUI support, which means it won't work on iOS, and you're correct, the Launchkey keyboard mechanism isn't semi-weighted.
Many years ago there was a native HUI implementation on the ReMOTE SL, which was retired in favour of the daemon approach. Hindsight eh?
@DaveHodder67 I can't connect to the store in LaunchPad.... I want more beats to play with my Launchkey Mini. Is it a Novation problem or my living-in-china problem?
The Launchpad store uses a Google App Engine server, which could well be blocked by the authorities out there. I'll discuss this with the team and see if there's a workaround.
@DaveHodder67 Thanks for the quick response and looking into it. For sure, Google Play is pretty limited here. I'd love to buy the packs!
So it appears App Engine doesn't work in China (for the store) and S3 looks iffy (for the content) so I can't see how we could get it to work in a supportable way, sorry! You might be able to buy stuff via a proxy, but then there's the possibility of purchasing a pack that you then can't download, so I'd have to say avoid it.
Launchpad is a fantastic app and I'd happily go out and buy a Launchkey 49 to use with it, but the fact that I can't play along with other apps at the sametime is a complete deal breaker for me. Hurry up and catch the Bus Novation!
Is there an alternative to launchpad? You can set pads to loop in BM2 but triggering them has to be spot on or the timing is off. So if BM2 added a way to sync the drum pads that were set to loop then there would be no need for launchpad.
They still don't get it , no AudioBus or IAA
I'm waiting for electrify nxt to get midi for clip launching. I am not fond of the launchpad app but I have a launchcontrol so it will have to do for now.
@otem_rellik said:
What about Beatmaker 2, does it work for clip launching? I just noticed that it has multiple banks for samples. all MIDI assignable, all banks can be filled with user samples. Hmmm...
I haven't had any joy finding a launchpad alternative. Not one that will trigger loops from a midi keyboard pad, keep the loops synced and wait till ones finished before the next one kicks in. Loopy HD could be a fun alternative, but i didn't find it as easy to use as launchpad and I couldn't set up the midi keyboard as I would have liked.
I must be the only one who has loved it since it appeared on the app store.
I must not be using the same way y'all want it to. I use it as my skeleton to develop ideas and also maybe cause I use 2 iPads. One recording into the other's audio interface.
I understand feature requests, but not the harsh "entitlement" attitudes some have posted here.
It must be because everyone wants it to be the same as the hardware version.
"That" I understand.