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Are iOS analogue synths actually analogue

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  • richardyotrichardyot
    edited November 2017

    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @Audiojunkie said:
    These debates have already gone the rounds over and over and over on KVRAudio. If you want, you can research it to get further enlightenment.

    My thoughts: It doesn't matter. Think of sounds as a painter thinks of paint. He has a palette of different colors for a reason--variety is the spice of life! It doesn't matter if it is analog or digital or virtual analog or hybrid or analog modeling. It doesn't matter if it uses subtractive synthesis, FM Synthesis, wavetable synthesis, vector synthesis, granular synthesis, or additive synthesis. What matters is that you find the sound you want for the piece you are working on. If it works, use it.

    On the subject of iOS synths: They are ALL digital synths by definition. Zeeon is a circuit modeled digital synth. What that means, is that it is software in a digital realm (algorhythms, really) that model (down to the circuit level), the behavior and sound of an analog synth. It's still digital. Subtractive synthesis is just a synthesis methodology (like wavetable, granular, FM, etc). It is not exclusive to the realm of Analog synthesis (although often associated with it). Not all hardware is analog. Not all analog sounds fantastic. I would take some digital synths over some analog synths any day--it just depends on the synth, design, etc. True analogs have sounded great, no doubt. But true digitals have great sounds too. Arguing about it just becomes a vicious circle that goes absolutely nowhere.

    I've got a true analog that I'm willing to sell cheap if anyone wants it. It's quite famous too. I've just found that I prefer the sounds I get from my digital synths and the form factor of my iPhone 7 Plus. I've gone from a room full of equipment and spending an hour working with patch cables in the 90's (before I can even start playing), to being able to pull my phone out of my pocket at any time and any place, and creating music that sounds better than any of the stuff I did back then.

    Synth/sampler sounds = Artist paint palette

    :wink:

    Very well said :) If it sounds good who cares !

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @waynerowand said:

    @Martygras said:

    @Audiojunkie said:

    @waynerowand said:
    Proper analogue

    Hehehe!!!

    Is nobody going to address the fact that there are only 7 cats??? Only seven...

    No octave for you!!!! :D

    Give it a couple of months..there will be the full 88 :D

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Lol like it :p

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Slow wag --> Let's Play With A Ball

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @richardyot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Slow wag --> Let's Play With A Ball

    :D :D :D

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Slow wag --> Let's Play With A Ball

    :D :D :D

    Thinking about it (but not too seriously obviously) with a few CV outputs, voltage amplifiers and some electrodes, you could probably hook up a synth to a canine friend and take control :D :D D

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Slow wag --> Let's Play With A Ball

    :D :D :D

    Thinking about it (but not too seriously obviously) with a few CV outputs, voltage amplifiers and some electrodes, you could probably hook up a synth to a canine friend and take control :D :D D

    That’s so wrong! :p

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Slow wag --> Let's Play With A Ball

    :D :D :D

    Thinking about it (but not too seriously obviously) with a few CV outputs, voltage amplifiers and some electrodes, you could probably hook up a synth to a canine friend and take control :D :D D

    OMG, and by using CV out, it would be all analogue

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Slow wag --> Let's Play With A Ball

    :D :D :D

    Thinking about it (but not too seriously obviously) with a few CV outputs, voltage amplifiers and some electrodes, you could probably hook up a synth to a canine friend and take control :D :D D

    OMG, and by using CV out, it would be all analogue

    You been doing the Circuit again? ;)

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Slow wag --> Let's Play With A Ball

    :D :D :D

    Thinking about it (but not too seriously obviously) with a few CV outputs, voltage amplifiers and some electrodes, you could probably hook up a synth to a canine friend and take control :D :D D

    OMG, and by using CV out, it would be all analogue

    You been doing the Circuit again? ;)

    Hmmmmm, how to get the step sequencer controlling the pitch of the bark

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Slow wag --> Let's Play With A Ball

    :D :D :D

    Thinking about it (but not too seriously obviously) with a few CV outputs, voltage amplifiers and some electrodes, you could probably hook up a synth to a canine friend and take control :D :D D

    OMG, and by using CV out, it would be all analogue

    Arduino sensors into a field kit.......I’ll take that challenge.

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Slow wag --> Let's Play With A Ball

    :D :D :D

    Thinking about it (but not too seriously obviously) with a few CV outputs, voltage amplifiers and some electrodes, you could probably hook up a synth to a canine friend and take control :D :D D

    OMG, and by using CV out, it would be all analogue

  • wimwim

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Slow wag --> Let's Play With A Ball

    :D :D :D

    Thinking about it (but not too seriously obviously) with a few CV outputs, voltage amplifiers and some electrodes, you could probably hook up a synth to a canine friend and take control :D :D D

    That’s so wrong! :p

    Not so much compared to what violin, guitar, etc. strings used to be made of. :#

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @richardyot said:
    Someone needs to start manufacturing these...

    Don't forget the LFO freq labels...Sloth -> Humming bird

    Slow wag --> Let's Play With A Ball

    :D :D :D

    Thinking about it (but not too seriously obviously) with a few CV outputs, voltage amplifiers and some electrodes, you could probably hook up a synth to a canine friend and take control :D :D D

    OMG, and by using CV out, it would be all analogue

    You been doing the Circuit again? ;)

    Hmmmmm, how to get the step sequencer controlling the pitch of the bark

    ‘He used to cut my grass! He was a very nice boy!’ Zappa

  • supadomsupadom

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @RUST( i )K said:
    The internet says they are real.

    Cats are not real. Dogs are real!

    If you think they’re not real try to smell their piss.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @supadom said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @RUST( i )K said:
    The internet says they are real.

    Cats are not real. Dogs are real!

    If you think they’re not real try to smell their piss.

    I can’t, they don’t exist man.....(alien sounds of WaveMapper sound in the distance....)

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @supadom said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @RUST( i )K said:
    The internet says they are real.

    Cats are not real. Dogs are real!

    If you think they’re not real try to smell their piss.

    And try doing this after they have finished, doing it during could lead to some very awkward questions :D

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @supadom said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @RUST( i )K said:
    The internet says they are real.

    Cats are not real. Dogs are real!

    If you think they’re not real try to smell their piss.

    And try doing this after they have finished, doing it during could lead to some very awkward questions :D

    Ok, this thread is getting way too seventies German porn for me...... :s

  • DaveypooDaveypoo
    edited November 2017

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @supadom said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @RUST( i )K said:
    The internet says they are real.

    Cats are not real. Dogs are real!

    If you think they’re not real try to smell their piss.

    And try doing this after they have finished, doing it during could lead to some very awkward questions :D

    Ok, this thread is getting way too seventies German porn for me...... :s

    Gert Wilden - Schoolgirl Report. Look it up on YouTube....

  • CracklePotCracklePot

    @dvlmusic said:
    Gert Wilden - Schoolgirl Report. Look it up on YouTube....

    I'm on the road again...

  • Redo1Redo1

    Why don't you open them up and take a look?

  • analog_mattanalog_matt
    edited November 2017

    @waynerowand said:
    Proper analogue

    I was worried this thread would get a bit caty.

    :D

  • CracklePotCracklePot

    @analog_matt said:

    @waynerowand said:
    Proper analogue

    I was worried this thread would get a bit caty.

    :D

    It's so funny that you can tell which cats are being played, and they don't look too happy about it. :D

  • iOSounddesigniOSounddesign

    A lot of it is in our heads, and influenced by the design of the app. Everybody talks about Model 15, iVCS3, and Zeeon, but nobody thinks of, lets say DRC. DRC is at least on par with all of these, but looks futuristic and modern. But it is an analogue modeling synth (i think that's the best term to describe it), yet nobody thinks of it, because it doesn't have that skeumorphic vintage look and feel. Best example for me, that a lot of this "analogue" is in our heads.

  • ModerndaycompilerModerndaycompiler

    @CracklePot said:

    @analog_matt said:

    @waynerowand said:
    Proper analogue

    I was worried this thread would get a bit caty.

    :D

    It's so funny that you can tell which cats are being played, and they don't look too happy about it. :D

    More likely too much aftertouch :smile:

  • mrcanistermrcanister

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @RUST( i )K said:
    The internet says they are real.

    Cats are not real. Dogs are real!

    Tell that to this lady/fella whichever it may be

    That’s just a fake picture Andy! ;)

    Ok I admit it...I photoshopped it from this :|

    is that VD? Virtual Dog modelling

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @iOSounddesign said:
    A lot of it is in our heads, and influenced by the design of the app. Everybody talks about Model 15, iVCS3, and Zeeon, but nobody thinks of, lets say DRC. DRC is at least on par with all of these, but looks futuristic and modern. But it is an analogue modeling synth (i think that's the best term to describe it), yet nobody thinks of it, because it doesn't have that skeumorphic vintage look and feel. Best example for me, that a lot of this "analogue" is in our heads.

    I love the sound and design of DRC. I just hate the save system as I’ve lost sounds many times with it. Admittedly that was in the early days, so it may work better now, but there is nothing like losing a lot of time taken making sounds to make me spend less time with an app.

  • ModerndaycompilerModerndaycompiler

    @iOSounddesign said:
    A lot of it is in our heads, and influenced by the design of the app. Everybody talks about Model 15, iVCS3, and Zeeon, but nobody thinks of, lets say DRC. DRC is at least on par with all of these, but looks futuristic and modern. But it is an analogue modeling synth (i think that's the best term to describe it), yet nobody thinks of it, because it doesn't have that skeumorphic vintage look and feel. Best example for me, that a lot of this "analogue" is in our heads.

    DRC does indeed have a rich analog sound (at least to my ears). Pity I don't use it as much as I should. If it became an AU app that would change. I think Poison-202 and iSem are gems too.
    That said, model 15 and Zeeon are at the head of the class.

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