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Taking a genre to the next level
Artists that took a genre to the next level.
I’ll start this thread with a few names.
I might be wrong and they weren’t the ones that stepped it up, but hey ho. I also know I’m missing huge swathes of musical styles, but I’m going with what I’m familiar with 
Leadbelly
Little Richard
The Beatles
Woody Guthrie/Bob Dylan
Neil Young
Jimi Hendrix
Pink Floyd
Iggy and The stooges
Black Sabbath
The Ramones/The Sex Pistols/The Clash
Kraftwerk
Public Enemy
Aphex Twin
The Prodigy
Originality and new sounds these days, seem to be a reworking or blending of what’s gone before.
Can you see where the next new sound is going to come from?
How can someone come up with a NEW sound that still crosses over into the mainstream?
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The only thing that this paved the way for, was for Sydney Youngblood to have a one off hit.
I kind of thought electronic country would be the next big thing but I have yet to see it. I guess it would be called Hillbilica.
Ludwig van Beethoven
Gah! That wasn’t what I meant to paste (excellent though it was). It was meant to be him:
Haha! But to me, Kraftwerk came first?
@ALB said:
You know, this could work? ZZ Top kinda did this?
I’m thinking of something less rock n roll and more electronica-ish. Maybe country ballads with strange ambient stuff instead of guitars or typical country instrumentation and/or... maybe synthy drum machine and sampled stuff. I have no doubt it could be done successfully.
Jim White and Parlour James are two acts who often used this approach.
Believe it or not, Billy Bob Thornton also flirted with this on his first album.
If you go back to the eighties, Rubber Rodeo also combined yee haw and synths, but they were a bit more of a novelty act.
Well, I thought it had probably been done before in some fashion. It seems almost obvious that someone would try it..
I like your list. I might suggest:
J.S. Bach (if we're going back that far)
Robert Johnson
Miles Davis
James Brown
Rolling Stones
Velvet Underground
Bob Marley
Devo
George Clinton
Prince
Micheal Jackson
Afrika Bambaataa
Run DMC
The Smiths
Depeche Mode
Nine Inch Nails
Nirvana
The Orb
Portishead
Wu-tang Clan
Snoop Dogg/Dr.Dre
Metallica
Guns n Roses
Man, my list is getting too long. I'm sure there are many more to add, too.
@CracklePot you forgot Radiohead
@LucidMusicInc Indeed I did. Also forgot Elvis, Bowie, and Chuck Berry.
Would anyone object if Eminem got added to this list?
To answer that question, I think the safest bet would be to drop 1978-1985 Prince in the present time
@CracklePot
I would certainly see the start of your list being included:
Robert Johnson
Miles Davis
James Brown
Rolling Stones
Velvet Underground
Bob Marley
Devo
George Clinton
Plus Chuck Berry, possibly Elvis. Problem is, lists like this can go on and on. Did a lot of those create a brand new sound?
A lot of them had a new package, but they were basically wrapping up something that had gone before.
I’ve realised that I’ve missed females off this list! I could get shit if I don’t amend!
Help needed here:
Cass Elliot
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Carole King
Aretha Franklin
Patti Smith
You forgot the Master!
I hope you mean Scandal ft. Patty Smyth https://open.spotify.com/album/5i0kVvDtDgmorQXqX9rdaK?si=hLkcSMpgQHKPH02Y-lwr7g
Getting away from the original questions here!
Those are all history. Fantastic history, but what is the future?
I hear nothing new being released.
Has everything been done? Is all that’s released today, just a rehash of old sounds?
Where are the innovators?
No not at all. I may not like 99% of stuff released today, but a proportional amount as in the past is not a rehash.
I also don’t see an innovator such as a Prince getting the spotlight and fame necessary to really shake a status quo. And when you’re talking about a maybe once-or-twice in a generation, if that, type talent like him, and the major labels miss him/her or skip over him/her, then it’s just more of the same. The thing is, it only takes one person, but it takes a lot of circumstances breaking right for the ideas to propagate.
Not my usual bag but I'm surprised not to see ABBA or Nile Rogers mentioned anywhere...
I'd also argue a case for Jimmy Cliff and/or Toots from the Maytals over Bob Marley.
Zeppelin took Stadium rock to a whole new level.
Dr Feelgood who provided the bridge from Glam Rock to Punk
I mean, Carly Rae Jepsen has the best, most consistent full album of the 2000s and beyond. Love her to death, but it doesn’t seem like that should be the case. I guess you could argue someone like Kendrick Lamar or Outkast Stankonia, the latter has an excellent case, but I’m thinking in the realm of pop music and less so rap.
This is more an aside, just because I’ve really only listened to the first couple albums recently, but early Queen does it as well as anyone. Arena rock that is
Abba wasn’t a consistently good album group. I know I’m applying my own standards a bit here, and singles are truly the only thing that matter, but it seems to me any game changer had at least one album full of quality material.
Did Queen perhaps invent sing-a-long rock ?....We will, we will, ROCK YOU
My final take is artists are producing comic books, not novels these days. It’s not wrong given the changes in society and pop culture, but it’s not as satisfying as the decades that came before I was even born (‘86).
In the good ol' days artists made singles...then along came the Beatles who started creating albums as a cohesive thing....we seem to have gone back to making singles for the most part, at least as far as mainstream is concerned anyway...
I like your way of putting this
Gary Numan - taking electronic music into the mainstream and pissing off guitar players everywhere.
Frank Zappa - taking doowop to its cheesy conclusion
Play Dead - writing all music so as to do ‘the chicken wardance’
St Winifred’s School Choir - for making me hate kids!
Danielle Dax - just cos she was so god damn sexy and I will beat anyone up who argues