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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @knewspeak said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    It’s like someone said ‘the cult of the AU’ - the largest cult we know is the forever evolving cult of the mainstream. But while it is hard to imagine all our technology gone, mankind would survive and probably prosper. If the net went we would adapt.

    As it is, it’s not resignation that the mainstream homogenisation of the internet is happening and feeling like there is nothing one can do, it’s more that in some ways, I would like to see it fail. Similar in sense to how much I love fast food, but would love to see it disappear as an option that eclipses more healthy options.

    Rant time
    I wouldn’t mind seeing the internet perish. It’s being used to brain wash us all. Little nuggets of dispersed truth polluted by dung loads of disinformation. A dispenser of opposing lies to get everyone and everything at each others’ throats blinded by rage. Pick your issue, get enraged, pollute the web and your life more. The addictiveness of the internet. The rewiring of our brains. The anxiety of over choice and the illusion of choice. Monies flushed down a toilet every month year after year for what. Dehumanizing porn popping up when children are researching for school assignments. They are encouraged to use this technology and the families are left to grapple with paying for and installing protection for family computers. Smart phones with easy access to the internet, AI games, Virtual reality, soon to receive significantly more powerful cellular beams for 5g from retrofitted towers, and why because the consumers have been brainwashed to believe they need faster internet and load times . Faster is better we’re told The pushing of wifi everywhere without informing the world of its multitude of dangers. The massive data collecting of everyone , every search you’ve ever made leaves a trace of info, they are especially interested in gathering data from children and selling it for astronomical profits....etc etc...but if we look at the web and technology as a gift and use it responsibly that could make a great ripple effect. Be less of a machine and more human and say no to temptation that’s foisted upon us every day through any and all delivery systems including the net. Check our checking of email, facebook, forums etc so we and our precious time doesn’t run amuck and waste away. Learn the benefit of being less connected to connect more meaningfully to your family. I longingly remember sitting down at the dinner table with Mom, Dad and four brothers long ago. No cell phones or internet and we most of the time did just fine.
    I must say this forum is a gift in many ways and something to be thankful for. Sometimes this technology shines

    True, those times with the family like distant fading gems, but we can't rewind.

    Nothing can take those memories away from us though!

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @Arpseechord said:
    when the reality of child trafficking in the world is so unbelievably heinous.

    And it's all because of the Democratic party? There's no need for anyone to make the pizzagate theorists seem ridiculous. They are ridiculous.

  • RUST( i )KRUST( i )K

    @richardyot said:

    @RUST( i )K said:
    We could have had cell phones in the 1950s' but Gov regulation stifled the ability to bring it forward because radio and telephone companies blocked it.

    I have no idea if this story is true or not, but surely that's not an argument against regulation, but an argument against lobbying and crony capitalism. Government itself is not necessarily a problem, but government captured by vested interests surely is.

    @RUST( i )K said:
    Anything that government regulates retards the long term growth.

    Blanket ideological statement. The world is not black and white. Government regulated against child labour in the Victorian era, and yes some people claimed it would hurt growth (because like every progressive policy ever it was fiercely resisted by vested interests). Growth continued just fine, even after we stopped sending children up chimneys. Sometimes regulation can be good, if it protects people from predatory capitalism.

    You are not wrong at all.

    I guess your phrase is ideal.

    Crony capitalism. That is what I despise. As prefaced by my first statement.

    Victorian era comparison......eah.

    Of course the government has done great things.

    However, the majority of rules and regulations by the government these days hurt the little guy who works and scrapes to get by.

    The big companies don't give a shit because they have investors and lobbyists.

    That is why the government "regulating" something like this is just a crooked set up as the military industrial complex or the fake government contracts or the countless fake feel good programs that are nothing more than money laundering schemes through grants funding and the reciprocity of campaign contributions.

    I find that my interactions with the government are 99% negative.

    That is just me.

    'lazy kids need to find something to do these days.............."

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @richardyot said:

    @Arpseechord said:
    when the reality of child trafficking in the world is so unbelievably heinous.

    And it's all because of the Democratic party? There's no need for anyone to make the pizzagate theorists seem ridiculous. They are ridiculous.

    That’s the mind control that has us all lumping anyone who proposes a conspiracy about anything into the saquatch and loch ness monster category. The powers that be deliberately create disinformation to muddy the truth so people won’t bother investigating anything at all

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen
    edited December 2017

    @Arpseechord said:

    @skiphunt said:

    Killing two birds with one stone, discredit this man and make pizzagate theorists seem ridiculous too when the reality of child trafficking in the world is so unbelievably heinous.
    Clever and devious who runs and controls the media

    Pizzagate theorists require no assistance in that area.
    Come to think of it, neither does Pai with the whole discrediting business.
    They are truly self-sufficient all around. Shining examples of libertarian ideals!

    In your opinion, who does control the media?

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @Arpseechord said:

    @richardyot said:

    @Arpseechord said:
    when the reality of child trafficking in the world is so unbelievably heinous.

    And it's all because of the Democratic party? There's no need for anyone to make the pizzagate theorists seem ridiculous. They are ridiculous.

    That’s the mind control that has us all lumping anyone who proposes a conspiracy about anything into the saquatch and loch ness monster category. The powers that be deliberately create disinformation to muddy the truth so people won’t bother investigating anything at all

    In my world, claims of truth-telling should be based on actual evidence. I'll believe in the Loch Ness Monster if someone can actually prove it exists. Pizzagate is 100% evidence-free fabrication.

  • jn2002dkjn2002dk
    edited December 2017

    Citing Mother Jones, one of the worst regressive left cesspools? Way to keep it non-political...Ah well, was an interesting thread while it lasted

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @skiphunt said:

    Killing two birds with one stone, discredit this man and make pizzagate theorists seem ridiculous too when the reality of child trafficking in the world is so unbelievably heinous.
    Clever and devious who runs and controls the media

    Pizzagate theorists require no assistance in that area.
    Come to think of it, neither does Pai with the whole decrediting business.
    They are truly self-sufficient all around. Shining examples of libertarian ideals!

    In your opinion, who does control the media?

    Who controls the media...probably the same interests that control the big international and domestic banks, people at the top of this worlds heep
    At present we have some control over it too because we can accept or reject whatever comes at us from our many sources

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @Arpseechord said:

    @richardyot said:

    @Arpseechord said:
    when the reality of child trafficking in the world is so unbelievably heinous.

    And it's all because of the Democratic party? There's no need for anyone to make the pizzagate theorists seem ridiculous. They are ridiculous.

    That’s the mind control that has us all lumping anyone who proposes a conspiracy about anything into the saquatch and loch ness monster category. The powers that be deliberately create disinformation to muddy the truth so people won’t bother investigating anything at all

    I agree with you there about lumping all conspiracies as crazy for purposes of deception. Gore Vidal also made that argument. However, your earlier post was rather unclear and difficult to interpret. There is generally a clear difference between crazyass conspiracies from Alex Jones/David Ickes-land and more credible considerations and suspicions.

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @jn2002dk said:
    Citing Mother Jones, one of the worst regressive left cesspools? Way to keep it non-political...Ah well, was an interesting thread while it lasted

    Where's the ignore button?

  • jn2002dkjn2002dk

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @jn2002dk said:
    Citing Mother Jones, one of the worst regressive left cesspools? Way to keep it non-political...Ah well, was an interesting thread while it lasted

    Where's the ignore button?

    If you find it, let me know since you contribute nothing but political shit no one wants here

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @richardyot said:

    @Arpseechord said:
    when the reality of child trafficking in the world is so unbelievably heinous.

    And it's all because of the Democratic party? There's no need for anyone to make the pizzagate theorists seem ridiculous. They are ridiculous.

    That’s the mind control that has us all lumping anyone who proposes a conspiracy about anything into the saquatch and loch ness monster category. The powers that be deliberately create disinformation to muddy the truth so people won’t bother investigating anything at all

    I agree with you there about lumping all conspiracies as crazy for purposes of deception. Gore Vidal also made that argument. However, your earlier post was rather unclear and difficult to interpret. There is generally a clear difference between crazyass conspiracies from Alex Jones/David Ickes-land and more credible considerations and suspicions.

    I agree B)

  • AudioGusAudioGus
    edited December 2017

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @skiphunt said:

    Killing two birds with one stone, discredit this man and make pizzagate theorists seem ridiculous too when the reality of child trafficking in the world is so unbelievably heinous.
    Clever and devious who runs and controls the media

    Pizzagate theorists require no assistance in that area.
    Come to think of it, neither does Pai with the whole decrediting business.
    They are truly self-sufficient all around. Shining examples of libertarian ideals!

    In your opinion, who does control the media?

    I tend to see the media as a rodeo ring full of bucking broncos with intermittent riders hopping on and getting bucked off. Some better than others. Some of the riders look like the Marlboro man (60 minutes etc) (they die of cancer, slump over and are munched up by the maelstrom of media bull feet), some are monkeys screaming incoherently but hanging on well enough (TMZ etc), while others are tightly fastened perfectly calculating Boston Dynamics robots (the singularity happened years ago you fools (PS 10101000101). In the end it is just a temporal ride. Either that or it is some Anglo Crypto Fascists in robes in a stone basement somewhere with social media ceo's gang banging the CIA etc etc. Whatever it is, it is obvious and people need to wake up.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @richardyot said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @richardyot said:

    @Arpseechord said:
    when the reality of child trafficking in the world is so unbelievably heinous.

    And it's all because of the Democratic party? There's no need for anyone to make the pizzagate theorists seem ridiculous. They are ridiculous.

    That’s the mind control that has us all lumping anyone who proposes a conspiracy about anything into the saquatch and loch ness monster category. The powers that be deliberately create disinformation to muddy the truth so people won’t bother investigating anything at all

    In my world, claims of truth-telling should be based on actual evidence. I'll believe in the Loch Ness Monster if someone can actually prove it exists. Pizzagate is 100% evidence-free fabrication.

    Yes “Pizzagate” could be all a fabrication to play out in the publics view. But it could also be a revelation of what’s going on, they are putting it in everyone’s face knowing the reaction will be revulsion and disbelief and the fact they can get away with these crimes at the highest levels of corporations and governments and not be arrested. This issue goes way beyond a pizza joint, that’s just a distraction from the larger truth that most can’t believe is happening. Oh course what do you or I know we could easily be right and wrong at the same time...peace B)
    That’s the last I’ll say on that topic

  • dendydendy

    fuck goverments and fuck system.. we will use Tor and pay with Monero :-)

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @dendy said:
    fuck goverments and fuck system.. we will use Tor and pay with Monero :-)

    Hehe, fuck the system! Lets use.. this other system!

  • dendydendy
    edited December 2017

    ok let me be more exact.. fuck centralized system with controlling authorities

    i understsnd that everything is in some way system, but i guess nor much peoplevwants return to cave ...

    maybe also living in cave and hunting mamooths was system :-))

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @dendy said:
    ok let me be more exact.. fuck centralized system with controlling authorities

    Sounds good... until they themselves become centralized systems with controlling authorities, then on to the next one. Sounds like a plan actually. Gotta keep moving.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @dendy said:
    ok let me be more exact.. fuck centralized system with controlling authorities

    i understsnd that everything is in some way system, but i guess nor much peoplevwants return to cave ...

    maybe also living in cave and hunting mamooths was system :-))

    Living in a cave and killing one Mammoth is probably way more exciting and awesome than anything I have done in my life.

    80 years of blech and self hatred or twenty years of 'Look at me ride this fucking Mammoth!!' ?

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @AudioGus said:

    @dendy said:
    ok let me be more exact.. fuck centralized system with controlling authorities

    i understsnd that everything is in some way system, but i guess nor much peoplevwants return to cave ...

    maybe also living in cave and hunting mamooths was system :-))

    Living in a cave and killing one Mammoth is probably way more exciting and awesome than anything I have done in my life.

    80 years of blech and self hatred or twenty years of 'Look at me ride this fucking Mammoth!!' ?

    But what if you found out you were allergic to Mammoth :p

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @dendy said:
    ok let me be more exact.. fuck centralized system with controlling authorities

    i understsnd that everything is in some way system, but i guess nor much peoplevwants return to cave ...

    maybe also living in cave and hunting mamooths was system :-))

    Living in a cave and killing one Mammoth is probably way more exciting and awesome than anything I have done in my life.

    80 years of blech and self hatred or twenty years of 'Look at me ride this fucking Mammoth!!' ?

    But what if you found out you were allergic to Mammoth :p

    Hmmm, acorn pie and sexy cave bitches?

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @dendy said:
    ok let me be more exact.. fuck centralized system with controlling authorities

    i understsnd that everything is in some way system, but i guess nor much peoplevwants return to cave ...

    maybe also living in cave and hunting mamooths was system :-))

    Living in a cave and killing one Mammoth is probably way more exciting and awesome than anything I have done in my life.

    80 years of blech and self hatred or twenty years of 'Look at me ride this fucking Mammoth!!' ?

    But what if you found out you were allergic to Mammoth :p

    There’s always Mastodon

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @AudioGus said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @dendy said:
    ok let me be more exact.. fuck centralized system with controlling authorities

    i understsnd that everything is in some way system, but i guess nor much peoplevwants return to cave ...

    maybe also living in cave and hunting mamooths was system :-))

    Living in a cave and killing one Mammoth is probably way more exciting and awesome than anything I have done in my life.

    80 years of blech and self hatred or twenty years of 'Look at me ride this fucking Mammoth!!' ?

    But what if you found out you were allergic to Mammoth :p

    Hmmm, acorn pie and sexy cave bitches?

    I fear that they didn't really look like Racquel in a fur bikini.

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @Arpseechord said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @dendy said:
    ok let me be more exact.. fuck centralized system with controlling authorities

    i understsnd that everything is in some way system, but i guess nor much peoplevwants return to cave ...

    maybe also living in cave and hunting mamooths was system :-))

    Living in a cave and killing one Mammoth is probably way more exciting and awesome than anything I have done in my life.

    80 years of blech and self hatred or twenty years of 'Look at me ride this fucking Mammoth!!' ?

    But what if you found out you were allergic to Mammoth :p

    There’s always Mastodon

    That's right!

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen
    edited December 2017

    @jn2002dk said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @jn2002dk said:
    Citing Mother Jones, one of the worst regressive left cesspools? Way to keep it non-political...Ah well, was an interesting thread while it lasted

    Where's the ignore button?

    If you find it, let me know since you contribute nothing but political shit no one wants here

    Really now? So, you're not only cognitively challenged, but also have severe reading deficits?
    Poor thing.

    There is an addenda below for you, Bucky.

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @jn2002dk said:
    Citing Mother Jones, one of the worst regressive left cesspools? Way to keep it non-political...Ah well, was an interesting thread while it lasted

    Where's the ignore button?

    If you find it, let me know since you contribute nothing but political shit no one wants here

    Really now? So, you're not only cognitively challenged, but also have severe reading deficits?
    Poor thing.

    Also, little man, you are the one who blithely tossed off "regressive left" in reference to skip's post. Obviously, you are the one dragging in "political shit"
    However, that is not surprising; your ilk excel at projection.

  • theconnactictheconnactic
    edited December 2017

    @Aud_iOS, thank you for the detailed posts: that was indeed helpful! I have to say this before this topic falls into a petty political debate (pleonasm) and gets closed. Cheers!

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited December 2017

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  • jn2002dkjn2002dk

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @jn2002dk said:
    Citing Mother Jones, one of the worst regressive left cesspools? Way to keep it non-political...Ah well, was an interesting thread while it lasted

    Where's the ignore button?

    If you find it, let me know since you contribute nothing but political shit no one wants here

    Really now? So, you're not only cognitively challenged, but also have severe reading deficits?
    Poor thing.

    Also, little man, you are the one who blithely tossed off "regressive left" in reference to skip's post. Obviously, you are the one dragging in "political shit"
    However, that is not surprising; your ilk excel at projection.

    Keep up the fallacies. Not only do they show your character but hopefully you'll be banned soon and thus improving this forum greatly

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @jn2002dk said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @jn2002dk said:
    Citing Mother Jones, one of the worst regressive left cesspools? Way to keep it non-political...Ah well, was an interesting thread while it lasted

    Where's the ignore button?

    If you find it, let me know since you contribute nothing but political shit no one wants here

    Really now? So, you're not only cognitively challenged, but also have severe reading deficits?
    Poor thing.

    Also, little man, you are the one who blithely tossed off "regressive left" in reference to skip's post. Obviously, you are the one dragging in "political shit"
    However, that is not surprising; your ilk excel at projection.

    Keep up the fallacies. Not only do they show your character but hopefully you'll be banned soon and thus improving this forum greatly

    I truly regret adding to that extensive list of those who have disappointed you, but I'm not taking your bait.
    However, I will repeat: you were the one who reflexively tossed off the phrase "regressive left" thereby dragging "political shit" into this thread.
    I am not surprised that you will not, or can not, acknowledge that simple truth (not a fallacy)

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