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Any reel to reel tape (and portastudio) simulations?
Looking forward app that imitates behaviour of those old tape things and how u can deform sound with them.
See for inspirations:
http://designingsound.org/2016/07/michel-chions-analog-tape-techniques/
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unfortunately all i know of is
Master Record - Tape simulation recorder & effects by iMusicAlbum
works well but iaa app only, i sure hope only day we get something like toneboosters reelbus as an AU
Another vote for Master Record
Master Record
Or
Virsyn Tap Delay allows some options
Tascam used to have a portastudio app in the AppStore seems to be gone now though
You can use Dedalus to ‘scrub’ samples, which can give you some fx you might do on tape
It would be ideal, but has been unavailable in the App Store for a few years now.
Master Record is the best existing alternative.
What about Tape by Focusrite by Novation?
Doesn't Fingerbeat do stuff like that?
ToneStack: use a combination of light overdrive / distortion, various Chorus modules for wow & flutter FX, then EQ to roll off the top and bottom as needed, followed by some compression. One of the most accurate tape sim setups I’ve found on iOS so far. Though MasterRecord also does a great job and is a little easier to setup.
Buy a used four track?
Good options here, by chance I was using Tap Delay (Rotating Delay preset) on a slightly fiddled with Tape Choir patch from Module and it sounded just the right amount of old.
That's what I think too @syrupcore , and I know it may sound obvious or snarky @Qmishery but I'm being sincere.
Master Record, Dedalus, the VirSyn delay, etc. will get you near an "analog" like sound, but I think the real deal is where it's at.
Many here, like me, began on analog tape multitracks and they'll always hold a place in my heart & mind. Ebay has so many good condition/quality Tascam, Yamaha & Fostex recorders for sale you can find what you're looking for using authentic tape.
Cassette PortaStudio multitracks will be cheapest, but I've seen really decent deals on late model reel to reel multitracks like the Fostex R8. A big recording mixer isn't needed if you're just experimenting or sampling sounds with analog.
Hope you find the sounds you're after through digital or analog means.
It is difficult to get the good cassettes these days — I have one remaining TDK Super Avalyn, and a handful of Chrome that I’ve used over and over. About the only ones you can go out and buy in a shop are Maxell and they’re the ordinary Ferric sort (in Wilko, actually).
Quality cassettes are indeed a pain to come buy. Well, any cassettes are a relative pain compared to 20 years ago but they're out there.
I wasn't being snarky either. If your main aim is experimentation, used good-enough-for-the-job machines can be had quite cheap and ferric based Maxell tapes (or used tapes from a thrift store) will work swimmingly. 4-tracks really are great fun and there's no software that can really emulate it.
This is what I have left, unopened:
@u0421793 Sorry I hit send by mistake before I was done. But you're right, tape is hard to come by, but it can he done. There are companies like deltamedia.com & nationalaudiocompany.com that still sell high grade Type II high bias blank tapes in a variety of lengths.
If you're just using analog tape for its sonic characteristics & experimenting you won't need that many blanks, you could record over them after the bit you like is transferred to digital etc.
It could get expensive if you were using a cassette PortaStudio as your main format like we did in the 80's & '90's. I used to buy Maxell "Studio Tape" brand XL-II tapes in 20 & 30 min lengths from dealers & stores like Tower Records.
Since good quality multitracks run at 3¾ ips & you only use one side of a cassette a 20 min tape only yielded 5 min recording time. When you're using those as your session tape, doing the overdubs, etc. then yeah you could go through some serious amounts of tapes.
Nah @syrupcore I knew you weren't being snarky, it's just sometimes the obvious answer is understood by the person inquiring, so I didn't want to seem all "well duh"...it can be a pain in the ass working with analog tape just in an experimental capacity.
Cleaning heads, demagnetizing, finding tapes, etc. it's part of why digital was so quickly embraced. But nothing sounds quite like real analog tape. Best digital versions I've heard were the Abbey Road J-37 tape emulation plugin & one of the Steven Slate plugs. Again, if I only had an iOS option to choose from I'd go with Master Record, it is very good.
Zurich in gadget?
I must say, in my youth I’d always lusted after a Teac A3440 (I had a couple of old mono valve-based open reel recorders from secondhand shops in Melbourne). But then, you’d need the meter bridge too. And that fitted on to the little input mixer, too. And none of it had noise reduction until you added the DBX thing for it too. Despite reel to reel being potentially higher quality than cassette, I think very significant strides were made in portastudios, especially mating the noise reduction to the media. I still have my Tascam 424 in the attic, and a Tascam demagnetiser. I haven’t used it in a couple of decades, but when I did, it was purely for single-track not-overdubbed vocals and guitar, plus a sync track on 4 (initially a Tascam sync unit, then later, the SMPTE generator in a Korg S3 drum machine). Only later did I start to use the 424 for storing mixed mono tracks of synth sounds, but even then I didn’t ever like to actually overdub tracks, because I was careful not to let it descend into mud (and this is using either the tape sync facility of the Roland MC-202, or the tape sync of a Korg KMS-30 (which I still have)).
This is an example of the sort of thing I ended up doing, multiple mixed single tracks, not overdubbed (or not overdubbed by many generations if I did), and using the 424 as more or less an instrument (on playback on the faders).
Tape is tape - while you may emulate the math process, all analog side effects of the specific gear fall out of the equation.
It's like high end reverbs (Lexicon 480) that are usually inserted via their analog ports, not the digital ones.
Regarding the sheen of quality tape machines I once noticed that a small amount of an ambient reverb (modelled after the 480, 5m room setting) yielded a very similiar result, probably induced by the reverb tail modulation.
With the small room and low wet rate the ambient effect isn't perceived at all.
Finger beat app has a pretty sick tape machine within. Check it out
FingerBeat by Sergio Barbosa
Sorry there doesn’t seem to be a link in AppStore share.
It is freakin’ avesom
FingerBeat IS awesome... you can play the tape with your finger
FingerBeat by Sergio Barbosa
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fingerbeat/id321464820?mt=8
FingerBeat IS IS awesome.
Have always wondered why I love triqtraq so much (and I do), but hardly ever use this puppy. It's easy enough but I suspect there's some kind of disconnect in the UI that my brain doesn't sit well with. Stupd (self) really.
Avesom indeed @supadom. Perfect thing to re-introduce myself to while United get hosed by Leicester this afternoon....
I didn't have you down as a footie type. Some things never fade, I guess.
I'm exactly on the same boat @JohnnyGoodyear but when I fired it up, all those memories of me playing with tapes as a teenager came flooding back.
In fact when I demonstrated it to my other half with my puppy excitement, she totally dismissed it. This likely happens in reverse when she finds something in shops, and some still insist there's no differences in gender other than physicality.