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According to Intel, latest information from them says that they're not the only ones effected by this problem.
AMD. Already happening.
Even ARM might be affected.....is this the end of the word....finally!!
Their share holders
Intel's statement
https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-responds-to-security-research-findings/
From what I've glimpsed from skimming through all that stuff, this is not a bug in anyone's CPU, but rather simply a completely new general type of exploit.
Thanks again for this new information.
A quote from this article doesn't exactly inspire confidence in their proposed solution/patch:
"Contrary to some reports, any performance impacts are workload-dependent"
Music production on low buffer settings and a high sample rates are just about the most cpu intensive tasks for a computer to perform (apart from video editing & rendering), so what are they saying? If you use your massively over-specked computer for browsing the web and liking stuff on facebook, you will be fine, but if you actually use it for, like, actually doing something, you will be screwed........... la di da!
But interesting that Apple even are ahead of time and fixed it (at least some of it) before it gone public.
And there is mention macOS and macs might less affected in general. The devils plan
But if that bug goes way back to 10 years old cpu‘s i wonder what has changed now.
And does that mean secure updates slow us down even more.
Whatever, maybe it‘s at the end just drama.
Or we see new marketing bla bla like the all new idevice is 30% slower but 100% more secure
This seems like what they are saying, yes.
@Cib in general, security slows things down. Not only in software, but in real life as well. What do you think why China can put up a skyscraper in 20 days, while western countries need 20 months?
No "Health and Safety".
Apart from people who work for the company on the shop floor, and people who use a company's goods or services, aren't shareholders the first to get shafted when a public company crashes . They are like pawns in the capitalist game, and more or less completely expendable. If you bet on the wrong horse you lose your money........i'm not sure shareholders can do very much when shares crash, except lose out, big time.......
Well, one of their major shareholders, the CEO, has sold his:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/12/19/intels-ceo-just-sold-a-lot-of-stock.aspx
Wow. Incredible. He obviously knew something we didn't. No, i meant your average shareholder, with a few hundred, or thousand shares, not the CEO with insider knowledge. (And all his cronies/family members & stockbrokers etc etc !)
Maybe the thread should be renamed since it looks all devices could suffer and have/had this flaw. Also iOS and ARM chips.
Your wish is my command! Well. At least this time
Oi! Many IT dudes worked hard to make sure that didn’t happen, don’t dismiss their effort so lightly.
I didn’t work hard, obviously, but that’s because I’m a lazy IT dude riding on the coattails of others.
Y2K work paid off some of my home loan, any chance of a Y2018 problem?
Apple already on it.
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/03/intel-design-flaw-fixed-macos-10-13-2/
I'm glad you earnt out of it.......... But it didn't happen th did it. It was meant to the Apocalypse of all thing Digital!.......... They even made a DR Who edition of it.
Anyaway, I did hear that by the end of 2018, the North Koreans, are releasing a computer Virus that impossible to crack............. It will cost a Bomb to fix!........
Y2K work gave me a further 10 years of employment in my last full time job. The department I was working in needed to shed 3 staff and those shed were on on the 'last in, first out' principle. I was 'last in', but the department was non-techie and I was able to transition all of them to new computers (whether this was needed or not!), so it was the next 3 last in that went.
You’ll have to wait another twenty years for that:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
great,i was JUST in the situation were i was absolutely satisfied on ios 10 (all devices) and a great running Sierra on my Macbook.And no intention to ever upgrade before replacing them someday...burn in hell,intel.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/04/meltdown-spectre-worst-cpu-bugs-ever-found-affect-computers-intel-processors-security-flaw?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
If the latest reports are to be believed it's not just Intel, but also AMD and ARM.. essentially any computing device made in the last decade - from your iphone down to the fancy touchscreen coffeemachine in your office.
“The current Intel problem, if true, would likely not require CPU replacement in our opinion. However the situation is fluid,”
Despite all the outrage and finger wagging, it will be a tempest in a teapot, yet again. Fixes are coming, they will be applied. Blaming “Intel” and anyone else as some monolithic destroyer of peoples’ lives for making a mistake, and that they should all be pilloried, is ridiculous.
They fucked up. Somewhere, somehow, someone missed a test. Or they just didn’t think of this situation. They spend massive amounts of money on quality assurance, but absolutely no one is infallible. And with all the complexities, being layered on top of existing complexities every year, it’s a wonder there aren’t more problems like this. If people get angry enough, they’ll stop buying their product. If they cause a big enough problem for some other business, they’ll get sued. That’s pretty much the “punishment” they’ll get for this.
I think it's a bit more serious than that. Our whole lives are run via computers and mobile devices, and potentially nearly every single one of them is insecure asnd open to hackers. Someone could be copying your bank login details or healthcare records right now.
That's not a bug in an audio app someone missed. This could fuck things up, big time.
Let's hope they close the back doorway they 'missed' quickly, and without too much of a hit on everyone's CPU's.
Nice little earner......alright for some........
http://mashable.com/2018/01/04/intel-ceo-stock-sale-security-flaw/#NE588ar.jOq1
People on the VI:Control forum (mostly professional computer composers) are freaking out. They think there could be as much as a 30% hit in performance when the patch is put in. They're worried it might make certain kinds of very heavy DAW use impossible. They worry it could be bad enough to cause latency. Some people are disconnecting their computers from the internet so as not to get the patch.
Here's the thread:
https://vi-control.net/community/threads/intel-nightmare.67891/
If you read it, you'll see that there are some that aren't that worried. But the news is coming out slowly.
And note this about iPhones, iPads, iPods, and Apple TVs
https://9to5mac.com/2018/01/04/cpu-bug-iphone-ipad-ipod-apple-tv/
Thank You, for posting this, it's good to hear how other producers are dealing with this situation. I reckon i made the right decision to disable windows updates last night.. I will wait until the patch is more mature, and re-asses the implications then. I ran a Geekbench test today, so i will be able to compare any changes if and when i apply any forthcoming updates. Thanks again Reid......cheers..........