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  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    The thing is, Avid’s subscription policy IS rubbish, but it does look like they also offer the expensive one-time-fee option too. With Avid’s subscription, you have access to customer support and upgrades, but no cloud storage features like with MasterWriter, no “own it after a while” incentives like with Roland Cloud, no consistent newly added content like with Noiiz and Splice, etc. And they wonder why people would rather crack their damn software than rent it. Avid, Microsoft (Office), Autodesk, Ulysses and Celsys are all on my “greedy subscription sh-tlist”.

    Again, Noiiz is different. It would be an app that can get you their ENTIRE CATALOGUE of audio samples onto your iPad, an ever-expanding catalogue. You can cancel the subscription and keep what you already have. Again, I don’t like their $199/year-at-once price, but I would be glad (and able) to pay the annual fee if it was broken up into monthly payments with a 12-month commitment. $199/12-months≈$16.58/month, which is far cheaper than $29.99/month to Splice for 1000 download credits. This would be a subscription worth getting. Cheers.

    Just not sure that anyone needs that many samples in a catalogue unless they have almost zero memory space/very limited libraries already, and don't enjoy digging for more obscure stuff. + I'd prefer to cherry pick sample libraries from all commercial sources. Not be dependent on Noiiz. Recently been grabbing some stuff from Drumdrops and Rattly and Raw for samples/Kontakt for example. Check em if haven't already :) So if I subscribed I'd STILL be spending on other samples. And no/slow Internet = no sample browsing (often happens on the road..). And I don't even have Internet on my studio desktop.. Plus you have the workflow thing. Getting samples from Noiiz out of the AU to use in other ways/other apps. I'm guessing in most cases that'll require at least one extra step than it would do to just browse or import samples that are already on iPad. Too many steps for this kind of stuff on iPad already...

    Guess $199 per year isn't a bad proposition for someone purely ios that wants to use Noiiz as their only sample source though. I'm not that target audience so will duck out on this one ;)

  • I think Microsoft office is pretty good value actually 1tb of cloud storage for each of up to 5 family members plus access to the Microsoft office sweet on PC and tablet for each of them for £8 a month.

  • @BiancaNeve said:
    I think Microsoft office is pretty good value actually 1tb of cloud storage for each of up to 5 family members plus access to the Microsoft office sweet on PC and tablet for each of them for £8 a month.

    They DO have cloud storage now?! :open_mouth: The last I knew, they didn’t, so that’s a good twist.

  • Hey everyone, sorry for the late response, I've been deep in the Welsh mountains and far away from an internet connection. Will respond in line! ...

  • @BlueGreenSpiral said:
    I imagine that having the option to pay via the AppStore, while having access to the pc/mac plugin would be something people would appreciate. I think anyone interested in a quick and easy way to access a large and varied sample library would be wise to take a look at the what this platform offers.

    I'm just curious if your company also accepts home brewed sample packs or libraries for addition to the catalog? An option to trade membership for some quality sounds might be a good thing for users and the overall ecosystem...

    Not at this stage, but we are looking into a community area possibly where you can share your own content. Lots to think about though so might be a little way off!

  • @BiancaNeve said:
    How is this better than

    https://splice.com/features/sounds

    Which seems to provide essentially the same service for $8 per month on what appears to be a monthly contract?

    There’s already the Roli Noise app and Studio Ampifys Noiz app in the AppStore by the way

    There's a few ways Noiiz is different - 1. You get unlimited downloads (if you pay yearly) 2. You get the Noiiz Plugin, so you can audition sounds in time with your music from your DAW 3. Soon you'll also get the Noiiz Sampler, Noiiz Player, virtual instruments and a suite of plugins. Still working on these, mind!

  • @BlueGreenSpiral said:
    I'm thinking 25 samples per month for 5€ with the ability to easily activate/deactivate would be a great option. True you can get sample packs for less money but often many of the sounds are of no interest to me personally and I imagine many others may feel the same way.

    We also have a monthly option for $9.99 - https://www.noiiz.com/pricing/

  • @Iostress said:

    @Kühl said:
    No more subscriptions for me, sorry.
    Apple Music, iCloud, Spotify, Netflix, Easynews, Get, Dark Web... eh it’s too much already

    Word! And I can add Adobe Cc to that list too :/ I'll switch to surface Pro + Bitwig for portable production in a second if the subscription model becomes a standard thing on ios apps. People suggesting it for stuff like BM3 in the 'tipping devs' thread.. I can see the appeal for devs (IF people were to actually bite the bullet and subscribe...) but for users it's like begging for a bum deal. Crazy talk...

    And the idea of paying monthly to use the same pool of samples as every other subscriber is off-putting too.. Youtube is free and way more fun to find sounds ;) Not condemning sample packs but just for me personally it never feels as fun as finding/making something less spoonfed. For that kind of library I recently bought the entire Samples From Mars catalogue in their sale for £38...Havent even opened 98% of the packs... Doubt I ever will.. Something like Noizz would be cool if it had some kind of free 'tit for tat' option. Like every time you want to use something you have to contribute something to the catalogue...for people that wouldn't be relying on it for the bulk of their samples but maybe just every now and again. Could be pretty interesting with people contributing field recordings and hardware samples etc.

    The biggest challenge with this is keeping the content high quality. We don't want to introduce pain points where you have to sift through a lot of average quality sounds to find one that works. However, there is also a lot of untapped power in the community IMO, so it is something we are looking into, albeit carefully. We're doing some research and maybe thinking of running some experiments at some point to see if we're able to create a self moderating community with groups that people submit content two and moderators/group owners that allow it in to their group, then some kind of incentive - monetary or otherwise - for both group owners and content creators when their stuff is downloaded. But quite a lot of hoops to jump through first, not to mention legal mumbo jumbo!

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    The thing is, Avid’s subscription policy IS rubbish, but it does look like they also offer the expensive one-time-fee option too. With Avid’s subscription, you have access to customer support and upgrades, but no cloud storage features like with MasterWriter, no “own it after a while” incentives like with Roland Cloud, no consistent newly added content like with Noiiz and Splice, etc. And they wonder why people would rather crack their damn software than rent it. Avid, Microsoft (Office), Autodesk, Ulysses and Celsys are all on my “greedy subscription sh-tlist”.

    Again, Noiiz is different. It would be an app that can get you their ENTIRE CATALOGUE of audio samples onto your iPad, an ever-expanding catalogue. You can cancel the subscription and keep what you already have. Again, I don’t like their $199/year-at-once price, but I would be glad (and able) to pay the annual fee if it was broken up into monthly payments with a 12-month commitment. $199/12-months≈$16.58/month, which is far cheaper than $29.99/month to Splice for 1000 download credits. This would be a subscription worth getting. Cheers.

    We may look at increasing what you can download on our monthly plan, but right now the only way to stop people signing up for a month and downloading everything, then quitting (regardless of yearly contracts or not) is to ask for payment for a year upfront for unlimited downloads. If the majority of people signed up for $9.99 and quite after a month, we likely wouldn't be in business very long. In the future, samples might only be a part of what we offer at Noiiz, so we might be able to be more flexible with this, but currently its our main offering and it's about as cheap as we can afford to go at this stage.

    We have just announced a sliding quota for our monthly plan though, so the longer you are a member, the more downloads you get, until around 2 years when it becomes unlimited. Not quite as good as unlimited right away, but hopefully a better compromise!

  • @NoiizyDave said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    The thing is, Avid’s subscription policy IS rubbish, but it does look like they also offer the expensive one-time-fee option too. With Avid’s subscription, you have access to customer support and upgrades, but no cloud storage features like with MasterWriter, no “own it after a while” incentives like with Roland Cloud, no consistent newly added content like with Noiiz and Splice, etc. And they wonder why people would rather crack their damn software than rent it. Avid, Microsoft (Office), Autodesk, Ulysses and Celsys are all on my “greedy subscription sh-tlist”.

    Again, Noiiz is different. It would be an app that can get you their ENTIRE CATALOGUE of audio samples onto your iPad, an ever-expanding catalogue. You can cancel the subscription and keep what you already have. Again, I don’t like their $199/year-at-once price, but I would be glad (and able) to pay the annual fee if it was broken up into monthly payments with a 12-month commitment. $199/12-months≈$16.58/month, which is far cheaper than $29.99/month to Splice for 1000 download credits. This would be a subscription worth getting. Cheers.

    We may look at increasing what you can download on our monthly plan, but right now the only way to stop people signing up for a month and downloading everything, then quitting (regardless of yearly contracts or not) is to ask for payment for a year upfront for unlimited downloads. If the majority of people signed up for $9.99 and quite after a month, we likely wouldn't be in business very long. In the future, samples might only be a part of what we offer at Noiiz, so we might be able to be more flexible with this, but currently its our main offering and it's about as cheap as we can afford to go at this stage.

    We have just announced a sliding quota for our monthly plan though, so the longer you are a member, the more downloads you get, until around 2 years when it becomes unlimited. Not quite as good as unlimited right away, but hopefully a better compromise!

    Well, the thing is mate, a lot of people here are used to paying lower one-time-fee prices, and a majority of people here are entirely opposed to subscriptions (whereas I can see the value in Noiiz being definitely worth it), so trying to convince people here to subscribe is a tough-enough task.

    Then comes the quandary where you want to convince people to subscribe right after the $99/year deal ended (“for good” according to the advert). $99/year up front is pretty steep, but it’s manageable enough. $199/year up front is impossible for 98% of us given a lot of folks here are hobbyists while some of us are still trying to make sustainable incomes for ourselves through music. Of COURSE people like me don’t want the limited plan/have to wait 2 years to have full access. $16.58/month with a 12-month commitment is far easier for the majority here (at least for me).

    You could technically set up a contract where a person is LOCKED into a 12-month commitment. If they wish to cancel after a month, they must pay a sliding cancellation fee. So, if the person only paid for one month, the cancellation fee could be $99. If two months, the cancellation fee could be $79, and so on and so forth. Yeah, cancellation fees may seem a bit “barbaric”, but it’s an option for someone who wants unlimited but can only afford $16.58/month. A lot of us here would prefer that actually.

    Also, and now I speak for myself, I see no value in downloading everything at once and then cancelling. Where would I store all of my stuff? Having the subscription would allow me unlimited access to everything you have on your cloud storage, kind of like renting a preloaded hard drive full of great stuff that’ll always be there for me. If you make your apps universal, indeed everything will always be there for me through my phone’s unlimited data plan. Cheers. :sunglasses:

  • Depends on the price and type of samples. If it's "put your hands up and dance" type of samples, no thanks.

  • Dave - will Noiiz iOS be an additional expense on top of the current annual subscription?

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @NoiizyDave said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    The thing is, Avid’s subscription policy IS rubbish, but it does look like they also offer the expensive one-time-fee option too. With Avid’s subscription, you have access to customer support and upgrades, but no cloud storage features like with MasterWriter, no “own it after a while” incentives like with Roland Cloud, no consistent newly added content like with Noiiz and Splice, etc. And they wonder why people would rather crack their damn software than rent it. Avid, Microsoft (Office), Autodesk, Ulysses and Celsys are all on my “greedy subscription sh-tlist”.

    Again, Noiiz is different. It would be an app that can get you their ENTIRE CATALOGUE of audio samples onto your iPad, an ever-expanding catalogue. You can cancel the subscription and keep what you already have. Again, I don’t like their $199/year-at-once price, but I would be glad (and able) to pay the annual fee if it was broken up into monthly payments with a 12-month commitment. $199/12-months≈$16.58/month, which is far cheaper than $29.99/month to Splice for 1000 download credits. This would be a subscription worth getting. Cheers.

    We may look at increasing what you can download on our monthly plan, but right now the only way to stop people signing up for a month and downloading everything, then quitting (regardless of yearly contracts or not) is to ask for payment for a year upfront for unlimited downloads. If the majority of people signed up for $9.99 and quite after a month, we likely wouldn't be in business very long. In the future, samples might only be a part of what we offer at Noiiz, so we might be able to be more flexible with this, but currently its our main offering and it's about as cheap as we can afford to go at this stage.

    We have just announced a sliding quota for our monthly plan though, so the longer you are a member, the more downloads you get, until around 2 years when it becomes unlimited. Not quite as good as unlimited right away, but hopefully a better compromise!

    Well, the thing is mate, a lot of people here are used to paying lower one-time-fee prices, and a majority of people here are entirely opposed to subscriptions (whereas I can see the value in Noiiz being definitely worth it), so trying to convince people here to subscribe is a tough-enough task.

    Then comes the quandary where you want to convince people to subscribe right after the $99/year deal ended (“for good” according to the advert). $99/year up front is pretty steep, but it’s manageable enough. $199/year up front is impossible for 98% of us given a lot of folks here are hobbyists while some of us are still trying to make sustainable incomes for ourselves through music. Of COURSE people like me don’t want the limited plan/have to wait 2 years to have full access. $16.58/month with a 12-month commitment is far easier for the majority here (at least for me).

    You could technically set up a contract where a person is LOCKED into a 12-month commitment. If they wish to cancel after a month, they must pay a sliding cancellation fee. So, if the person only paid for one month, the cancellation fee could be $99. If two months, the cancellation fee could be $79, and so on and so forth. Yeah, cancellation fees may seem a bit “barbaric”, but it’s an option for someone who wants unlimited but can only afford $16.58/month. A lot of us here would prefer that actually.

    Also, and now I speak for myself, I see no value in downloading everything at once and then cancelling. Where would I store all of my stuff? Having the subscription would allow me unlimited access to everything you have on your cloud storage, kind of like renting a preloaded hard drive full of great stuff that’ll always be there for me. If you make your apps universal, indeed everything will always be there for me through my phone’s unlimited data plan. Cheers. :sunglasses:

    Thanks and I see your points - spreading the payment makes sense to most people, but I'm not totally convinced locking people into a contract with cancellation fees is the right solution. It might be that we're able to offer more functionality/downloads for monthly plans going forward, will see how things pan out

  • @Angie said:
    Dave - will Noiiz iOS be an additional expense on top of the current annual subscription?

    Well, right now we're just exploring the concept and don't have any concrete plans for Noiiz iOS, so it's difficult to say how it would be priced if we did go down this route. My complete and utter guess would be that it would make sense to have one subscription fee for Noiiz and the iOS app free. But that means you'd have to pay on the Noiiz website and I know Apple won't allow you to directly send people to sign up pages from the app. If we went down the in-app payments or app store payments route, it would have to be a separate thing, but that doesn't sound ideal.

    For us to enter the market there needs to be a couple of things clear - are there enough people already here to make it feasible for us, or can we develop something truly new and groundbreaking that will make people who don't currently use iOS to make music with, to start doing so. Right now, I'm not really sure I have the answers to either of those questions!

  • @NoiizyDave said:

    @Angie said:
    Dave - will Noiiz iOS be an additional expense on top of the current annual subscription?

    Well, right now we're just exploring the concept and don't have any concrete plans for Noiiz iOS, so it's difficult to say how it would be priced if we did go down this route. My complete and utter guess would be that it would make sense to have one subscription fee for Noiiz and the iOS app free. But that means you'd have to pay on the Noiiz website and I know Apple won't allow you to directly send people to sign up pages from the app. If we went down the in-app payments or app store payments route, it would have to be a separate thing, but that doesn't sound ideal.

    That’s strange. Netflix handles all of their billing through their website, and their app sends us to the website in order to sign up/cancel. Unless Netflix has special permission?

    Then I think the best solution to this quandary is as follows - when you develop the iOS app, have the annual subscription fee be $99/year in-app subscription only. This way, it’s not too steep of a subscription option, and is manageable for most iOS users. Get a good marketing team to create videos that EXPLICITLY EXPLAIN that this isn’t just a subscription fee for app functionality but for an entire cloud service chock full of samples.

    Then, if the iOS user wants to use the Noiiz plugin on their PC/Mac, or wants to download directly from their browser, they can pay an additional discounted subscription. In other words, come up with a system that can have a user prove they use the iOS version of Noiiz, and offer the full annual subscription at $100/year so long as they remain subscribed on the iOS platform as well. Indeed, that sounds complicated and such, but it could be worth looking into.

    @ipadthai said:
    Depends on the price and type of samples. If it's "put your hands up and dance" type of samples, no thanks.

    Noiiz has samples of ALL varieties.

    https://app.noiiz.com/sounds/packs/1135
    https://app.noiiz.com/sounds/packs/463
    https://app.noiiz.com/sounds/packs/314
    https://app.noiiz.com/sounds/packs/1119
    https://app.noiiz.com/sounds/packs/1099

    Of course, if you do secretly love “put your hands up and dance” type of samples and are too ashamed to admit it...

    https://app.noiiz.com/sounds/packs/1129

    You’re welcome. :tongue: Just click here...

    https://app.noiiz.com/sounds/packs

    ...and you should be able to explore packs by genre and hear the audio previews of packs with no issues.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @NoiizyDave said:

    @Angie said:
    Dave - will Noiiz iOS be an additional expense on top of the current annual subscription?

    Well, right now we're just exploring the concept and don't have any concrete plans for Noiiz iOS, so it's difficult to say how it would be priced if we did go down this route. My complete and utter guess would be that it would make sense to have one subscription fee for Noiiz and the iOS app free. But that means you'd have to pay on the Noiiz website and I know Apple won't allow you to directly send people to sign up pages from the app. If we went down the in-app payments or app store payments route, it would have to be a separate thing, but that doesn't sound ideal.

    That’s strange. Netflix handles all of their billing through their website, and their app sends us to the website in order to sign up/cancel. Unless Netflix has special permission?

    You hit the nail on the head there - they do! That being said, we could probably write a whole new subscription system just for iOS and a separate one for the app, but I'm not sure how easy it would be to get them to play nicely with each other. You're right though, if we did go ahead with an iOS build it's something we'd need to look into more closely.

  • @NoiizyDave
    About Apple not letting you to directly link to noiiz site: yes indeed, they won’t unless you let em get their share. But Spotify didn’t gave the share to Cupertino folks and they are doing just fine, as far as I can see. Apple won’t be able to say a word about privileged login status.

  • edited January 2018

    @NoiizyDave said:

    @BlueGreenSpiral said:
    I'm thinking 25 samples per month for 5€ with the ability to easily activate/deactivate would be a great option. True you can get sample packs for less money but often many of the sounds are of no interest to me personally and I imagine many others may feel the same way.

    We also have a monthly option for $9.99 - https://www.noiiz.com/pricing/

    Thanks for getting back to me, the problem for people like me that have family accounts with multiple iClouds, Apple Music etc is that it's impossible to guarantee I can cover the cost for a yearly subscription. I feel the 250mb download limit if you pay month to month is much less attractive than a reasonable set number of sounds.

    I would be using noizz for nature recordings and various other stuff I can't record myself. I can imagine one or two of these sounds may push me over the 250mb monthly limit.

    I'm glad you are taking suggestions and hope you can find an iOS subscription model that works for many people.

  • @NoiizyDave said:

    @Angie said:
    Dave - will Noiiz iOS be an additional expense on top of the current annual subscription?

    Well, right now we're just exploring the concept and don't have any concrete plans for Noiiz iOS, so it's difficult to say how it would be priced if we did go down this route. My complete and utter guess would be that it would make sense to have one subscription fee for Noiiz and the iOS app free. But that means you'd have to pay on the Noiiz website and I know Apple won't allow you to directly send people to sign up pages from the app. If we went down the in-app payments or app store payments route, it would have to be a separate thing, but that doesn't sound ideal.

    For us to enter the market there needs to be a couple of things clear - are there enough people already here to make it feasible for us, or can we develop something truly new and groundbreaking that will make people who don't currently use iOS to make music with, to start doing so. Right now, I'm not really sure I have the answers to either of those questions!

    Sounds like it's going to be tricky to find the sweet spot. I doubt avid iOS musicians would provide enough of a base - especially when you would be competing against original clip/oneshot creation which is getting ever easier with midi generation AU apps (like Rozetta) and with the ever growing supply of AU synths with massive banks of easily tweakable patches (like Syntronik or Dixie). Then again...hmmm...

    I'd like to see an app that serves up what your website currently offers. And I'd like to see it able to operate as a .wav loop recorder and midi recorder so that user sounds can be cloud stored, labeled and indexed within the app (perhaps with a public share option). Kind of a combination giant stock music sample library plus musical Evernote equivalent for all of the 8 measure odds and ends we all create by the millions. (Or make that public share button a "review all" button for people to submit packs of their best original samples for some kind of curated community showcase or sales channel.) Nice to see something like this for preset banks for any of the iOS synths or plugins as well.

    What I like about Noiiz is the whole "central repository" structure, and while I'm still trying to decide if I renew for the next year (decision due in just under 10 days) - it's stuff like the "upload and organize your messy pile of clips so that you can actually find and use stuff" feature that is probably going to convince me to keep it going for another year.

    And while I would really hate to have to pay for an iOS subscription as well some day, if the app gave me a seamless way to save all of my iOS snippets to a Noiiz cloud and streamline the iPad to laptop ordeal - well, that would be worth some cash.

  • @Angie said:

    Sounds like it's going to be tricky to find the sweet spot. I doubt avid iOS musicians would provide enough of a base - especially when you would be competing against original clip/oneshot creation which is getting ever easier with midi generation AU apps (like Rozetta) and with the ever growing supply of AU synths with massive banks of easily tweakable patches (like Syntronik or Dixie). Then again...hmmm...

    I'd like to see an app that serves up what your website currently offers. And I'd like to see it able to operate as a .wav loop recorder and midi recorder so that user sounds can be cloud stored, labeled and indexed within the app (perhaps with a public share option). Kind of a combination giant stock music sample library plus musical Evernote equivalent for all of the 8 measure odds and ends we all create by the millions. (Or make that public share button a "review all" button for people to submit packs of their best original samples for some kind of curated community showcase or sales channel.) Nice to see something like this for preset banks for any of the iOS synths or plugins as well.

    What I like about Noiiz is the whole "central repository" structure, and while I'm still trying to decide if I renew for the next year (decision due in just under 10 days) - it's stuff like the "upload and organize your messy pile of clips so that you can actually find and use stuff" feature that is probably going to convince me to keep it going for another year.

    And while I would really hate to have to pay for an iOS subscription as well some day, if the app gave me a seamless way to save all of my iOS snippets to a Noiiz cloud and streamline the iPad to laptop ordeal - well, that would be worth some cash.

    Thanks, these are all really helpful suggestions! I also like the idea of Noiiz becoming more like a home for all different types of content and ideas, as well as giving you the tools to share this with collaborators or the wider community. Creating a 'record' app that lets you capture ideas and save to Noiiz was an idea we toyed with, I could see how that would be handy.

  • I'd love to learn more about how you guys currently use tablets or phones in your workflow. Do you use them solely to make music with, or do you use them in conjunction with a computer, or a musical instrument? Are there any particular tasks you find yourself using them the most for?

  • @NoiizyDave said:
    I'd love to learn more about how you guys currently use tablets or phones in your workflow. Do you use them solely to make music with, or do you use them in conjunction with a computer, or a musical instrument? Are there any particular tasks you find yourself using them the most for?

    I usually start on my iPad then export the ableton project for effects, editing and arrangement.

  • @NoiizyDave said:
    I'd love to learn more about how you guys currently use tablets or phones in your workflow. Do you use them solely to make music with, or do you use them in conjunction with a computer, or a musical instrument? Are there any particular tasks you find yourself using them the most for?

    Beginning to end as much as possible in Garageband iOS on iPad Pro 12.9. The Increasing prevalence of great AU instruments and effects is making it easier and easier to avoid having to finish in Logic. A Full featured AU sampler is one of the big holes right now.

  • @realdavidai said:

    @NoiizyDave said:
    I'd love to learn more about how you guys currently use tablets or phones in your workflow. Do you use them solely to make music with, or do you use them in conjunction with a computer, or a musical instrument? Are there any particular tasks you find yourself using them the most for?

    Beginning to end as much as possible in Garageband iOS on iPad Pro 12.9. The Increasing prevalence of great AU instruments and effects is making it easier and easier to avoid having to finish in Logic. A Full featured AU sampler is one of the big holes right now.

    And a convenient way to add samples to the collection without having to download a full sample pack for a couple of effects, one loop and 4 drum hits.

  • Personally imm not going to buy a subscription of any software, so no. But i bet there are some who would pay it, that is if its well made and easy to use app. I highly recommend making an of AU plugin for it. Also get drag&drop of loops from slide over view. Without these, i doubt many people would stick on using it.

  • edited March 2018

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  • I decided to check the pricing on the Noiiz website, and it looks like they now have a monthly subscription payment option for the unlimited plan. The only problem is, that’s way too expensive.

    The annual cost of Noiiz unlimited would rough out to $16.58/month as previously stated, which would be closer to a far more reasonable monthly price. Sounds.com has their unlimited plan set at the introductory price of $9.99/month, and that’d be Noiiz’s direct competition moreso than Splice! I have the expectation that a monthly subscription for unlimited would cost a bit more annually than an annual subscription, but Noiiz are shooting themselves in the foot if they expect any reasonable person to pay roughly the same price as an iPhone 8 annually ($840/year) on the monthly subscription plan.

    I understand that Noiiz is far more than a sample library, and so I’d estimate $19.99-$24.99/month to be a far more competitive (and reasonable) monthly subscription price in my opinion. That pricing would encourage people to stick with Noiiz, whereas $69.99/month WOULD encourage people to hoard and hoard within the space of 31 days. Noiiz would probably lose more income in the long term given the fact the only “lifers” they’d have would be those who could afford the annual subscription.

    Fingers crossed if you still visit here @NoiizyDave . I apologize in advance if I come off as curt, but I’d rather be honest than sugarcoat it.

    (One other thing is, I am still aware of the “budget” subscriptions, but given I produce in ambient genres and not just in “EDM”, the 1GB/monthly 24GB/annually would be quickly used up before you say “abra cadabra”.)

  • i have Splice and Noiiz looks cool too but less libraries

  • edited March 2018

    If you look at YouTube reviews of Sounds.com and look down at the comments you’ll see many commenters comparing Splice w Sounds.com. which is now $10 per month. Apparently Spice has got this multi-folder thing that Sounds.com has apparently streamlined /bypassed. It’s much easier to download files on Sounds.com. Noiize is gonna have both a built in sampler and player. That’s a huge difference . Yes, $199 is expensive but there’s a half price special on now. $99 per year would be reasonable I think. The player really changes the game up.. We’ll see..

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