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Lol! Hardly...
The thing that @max23 seemed bent on failing to see is that this was a thread meant to discuss 'solutions' and ideas for a more 'purpose built instrument' experience when using the most commonly owned controllers... Not just 'no one has done this successfully before, so no one should try to'.... That stance is fine, but lazy and defeatist to say the least.. Seems like some people require a little more spoon feeding than others in order to be able to see potential in an idea, so...
Some ideas that could help an '8 knobs' app feel less limited (if indeed that was a legit issue in any case...).
Synth/sampler engine page -
8 knobs. These are macros assembled by dev. Not just amalgams of standard subtractive synth params. But amalgams of whatever sound design tools might be interesting. Going from simple sculpting to insanity.
Onscreen Amp env ADSR (filter env ADSR would be sewn in to the macros somewhere). Something that I rarely tweak on physical knobs, most often 'set and forget', and would be fine to compromise and have on screen. Midi Learnable for anyone that 'did' want them on knobs and go the old way of 'changing controller scenes'..
Onscreen lfo 1 and 2. There would be some interesting lfo stuff already inside the macros. These 2 lfo would be for modulating the macro/s themselves and the buttons mentioned below. Midi Learnable as above.
A button above each macro that would cycle through different 'under the hood' configs/fx/routings for that macro. Giving endless combinations of different sound and interaction between the 8 knobs. Lfo/s could modulate this.
There would be 4 of these instruments. So 4 pages. One per instrument. Each with a different focus on different types of synthesis/sample manipulation. So from within one AU it would be possible to quickly design/audition endless sounds. But each of which only using 8 knobs.
No page switching (besides choosing/auditioning the synth/sampler type). Knobs always assigned and visually corresponding in a row or grid.
Bells and whistles could be stuff like -
-the ability to layer some/all of the 4 synth types. Either locking all synth macros except for the 'current' synth. Or having those other synths's respective 8 macros also respond.
-global app lfo page. Modulating between the 4 synths etc.
-fun GUI. Op1 inspired maybe, weird retro-future maybe, , anything really but something unique and screaming 'just mess around with me and make noise'...
Plenty of scope for the 'sex' @max23 couldn't envisage
This is just one of a million possible rough idea jump points that could 'work' with an 8 knobs focused interface. Dev could go as wild as they liked and expand it (particular macros could cycle through different samples or waveforms, and that could be modulated by lfo, and also modulated by one of the adjacent macros... For instance..)
I'd be down for something like this for sure... Would be a fun/fast alternative and unique for sound design and performace compared to the huge pile of more traditional synths that arent so fluid to experiment with whilst using a portable 8 knob controller...
Edit - dunno how some of that post ended up in bold. Not intended.......
Lol! More noise that entirely misses the point...
First... its nothing like a mod matrix in terms of the way it would be used. If anything it would be like 8 x separate morphable mod matrixes. With scenes per matrix via the button. Each without fixed modules and routing. All explorable via 8 knobs and one button per knob. That doesn't appeal to you? To use alongside your other gear? Thought you dug sound design/experimental instruments... I'd say that actually insisting on a more standard 'knob per param' interface on all instruments in order to for someone to feel like they can are able to be creative (like the hundreds of apps that already exist and wouldn't be wiped off the face of the earth by the addition of some alternatives) is far more akin to needing to be spoon fed. Comfort zone... Leave it sometime maybe? I love knob per param instruments/software. I have plenty of knob per param instruments/software. I'm Just saying I'd like some 8 knobs instruments in ios like this, BESIDE those knob per param options...
2nd... I don't 'want' to be spoon-fed like this in general. Just saying that for some meals it might be a nice option. Considering that I'm sat here with a f&£king spoon already and my mouth/brain gets easy irritated from having to count/tell the spoon how many peas are on it every time I take a bite. So yeah, Life's short. More often than not if I'm not on the sofa or travelling then I'm just gonna flip to hardware instead.
Feels like you have a personal vendetta against this thread, just ignore it dude
It doesn't interest/appeal to you = it doesn't concern you so surely you have something better to go do or think about?
Edit - and that 'you are one of those presets users aren't you?' comment you added in your edit.....What a f#king ridiculous thing to say to someone. Ever. But FWIW. No. I'm not...
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Goodbye!
I have the novation RemoteZero SL which uses automap sitting here, right in front of me. It's not perfect, but i definitely wouldn't describe it as shit........in fact it's pretty good. Might be excactly the kind of thing Iostress is after? Maybe? Perhaps?
Once upon a time there was alchemy mobile. Now there are garage band intruments with this kind of approach
This seems accurate and SynthMaster player.
It’s my understanding that the apeSoft and Amazingnoises apps have been updated last year with a pickup MIDI CC option.
For me it’s easier to just use apps that have a functionality that fits with my MIDI controllers or to use one of the roll your own MIDI control surface apps to make my own controller rather than count on developers to create apps based upon it.
It doesn’t hurt to ask for what you want though.
It's not really the same, experience wise. Even with a well implemented pick up system. With fixed throw knobs, you just run out of room for inc/dev and wind up having to wiggle the knobs a bunch to get it to pick up. Not saying it wouldn't work (I've made it work before) but it's subpar as compared to endless encoders.