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Beatmaker 3 vs Cubasis 2 │ Which iPad DAW is BEST for you? - haQ attaQ 269
Here's my take on Beatmaker 3 versus Cubasis 2 and which one to go for. Questions like "this one vs that one" or "which iOS DAW is best" are popping up allover my comment section. Last week I received yet another request from a viewer asking me to do a comparison between these apps. So I figured it was time to dig in and get it done. In my opinion It all boils down to workflow and personal preference. Check it out!
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Appreciate the very nice video. I would suggest the best daw on iOS isn’t actually named in the title, but Auria isn’t for everyone. But, and this is just my humble opinion, both Cubasis and BM3, while very powerful, are just toys in comparison to those shiny Fab Filter plugs and everything else Auria offers up on a wholly professional scale that these two don’t even try to imitate.
Also, my family has been fighting back the flu as well. Glad you’re feeling better.
I use BM3 to MIDI sequence external AU/IAA synthesizers, instruments and drum machines and make my tracks. While the MPC interface is up front, you can also use a keyboard to input MIDI. I skip the pattern/bar mode and just work in a linear fashion.
This post is a bit special uh ?
Cubasis and Beatmaker are toys compared to Fab Filter plugs ?
Just for the record i love sequencing my songs on Fab Filter plugs and can totally see why you compared them to Cubasis and Beatmaker !!!
Both are great. I like being able to traverse large sound files and arrange/reorganize small slices, copy willy nilly around the timeline, apply fx etc. BM3 is actually closer, in terms of results, to what I make using a traditional timeline based PC daw (Samplitude) for chopping audio. The iMPC or Maschine aspects were somewhat new to me but felt like the old days with Mod trackers so easy to get with. There certainly are more screens to contend with but once I got with the quickest routes to and from those screens it was a big ahah moment. I enjoyed my time with Cubasis and it was much quicker to ramp up on but really that 'sampler' in BM3 has become way more than just a sampler to me.
For recording bands / audio engineering on iOS I would certainly pick Auria Pro / Fab Filters for best aural results.
I really love BM3 but use Cubasis as well for really only one reason:
If I have FX on an audio track in BM3 it prints the FX when I record audio. I could live with that except it doing this causes stereo glitches in the recording. Am I the only one to notice this?
I hope in future there will be a setting so you can choose not to print the FX while recording. No other DAW’s do that.
So I guess it’s alphabetical then...
Auria
BM3
Cubasis
If you just send your audio track to an AUX channel for FX then it will record dry on the audio track.
Apologies if my comments seemed specifically inflammatory. They weren’t intended that way, but I can see how they could be read that way. I’m a post guy. While midi arrangement is a part of what I do, it’s only a small sliver. For what I do, Auria is hands down the best choice I’ve found. And I will readily concede that this is a purely subjective thing for each person. That’s just my take.
Auria yes agreed, great inline DAW for sure, my point was Fab Filter plugs are just that, plugs, and should never be part of any DAW comparison, otherwise we then have to compare to desktop where Fab Filter also runs, and Auria fairs very badly then in comparison.
Lets just keep it like for like, 1:1
On that note it is hard to pick between Cubasis and Beatmaker, Cubasis has the more traditional linear approach and is currently much slicker in use, but Beatmaker has great and fast developers and a great community.
I think this could be a completely different scenario in a year or so, i suspect Cubasis to have not been developed much aside from IAP and Beatmaker to be a much much slicker experience.
If you are used to traditional DAWs Cubasis right now, if you are willing to open up to pattetn based and linear combined and give the developers a bit of leeway, Beatmaker is far and beyond the better of the two.
I downloaded BM3 when it went free, it’s still on my iPad, but honestly Auria and Garageband supply all my DAW needs. Have Cubasis as well, or used to, because it’s currently not on my iPad.
excellent video, @jakoB_haQ.
Here’s the workflow I’d love: using Cubasis to track midi; using beatmaker3 exclusively as sampler into Cubasis; mixing and mastering the whole thing in Auria. Is that possible?
Well produced video as ever!
I know audio tracks and MIDI tracks need to improve in BM3 but I think they are better than people realize. I had little problem sequencing long sections of MIDI synths and audio recordings. You don’t have to chop everything up into bars and loops. And if you’re into sampling then BM3 is your jam.
Having said that, I’ve never actually used Cubasis so I should be quiet really.
As for Auria Pro. Yes, it looks first class for mixing/mastering if you buy the IAPs but if I can finish my track in BM3 adequately then I don’t really need it. We’ll see.
Sure! Some people use Auria just for mastering. Cubasis is FUN and with Waves plugins, it is my choice.
I guess what I really meant was: how would you use the sampler in BM3 as an instrument to be recorded into Cubasis?
Auria Pro and GarageBand for me too. I’ll still use MultiTrack DAW to track guitars and sketch out my song ideas because it’s so fast and simple for someone like me who uses just about all audio.
Thanks @jakoB_haQ for the thoughtful overview of these two great apps- your video really helped me see what I like about them both and what I don’t like, and what I really like about MultiTrackStudio and SunVox!
Thanks! So simple yet I didn’t really think of doing that...
I do hope the glitch thing gets fixed eventually as I like how it prints FX while recording for one purpose. It’s handy for recording a Flux:FX looping performance that is nice and sync’d up. I’m sure there is a way to do that too that I’m not thinking of.
We can agree to disagree about the validity of considering the plugs available on a given platform as reflective of its worth. Beatmaker all the way for me, if I have to pick one of the two. (And I should since further off topic discussion detracts from @jakoB_haQ 's fine work here on this video). I fell in love with BM2 on an iPhone screen and that was when they were tiny. Once you unlocked its quirks, you pretty quickly realized it was a monster. I’ll confess to having lost work to the initial Cubasis "undo" bug. I deleted it immediately. I ventured back, but it felt like work by that time. When BM3 came along, I felt right at home again and haven’t looked back since. Of course, neither of them are on my main devices today. Maybe if that iPhone version finally arrives...
I tried to edit this post and ended up hitting like on my own thread....this has caused me way more stress than wondering which daw is best on iOS.
Very fair comparison. I have realised that personally I don’t gel with the beatmaker style interface and so use Cubasis and Auria as my main DAWs. Garageband is great too but I wish it played nicer with other apps. And are dead right about needing group channels in Cubasis!
Thank you everyone for all you feedback, thoughts, opinions and and so far! This is what I love about AB forums.
Oh and thank you for your well-wishings!
It depends of the material I have at the beginning of the day. If I have already several tracks, generated with AUM for exemple, I will most probably use Cubasis then add midi and so on. If I start from scratch...nothing can beat BM3 because you can build your toolbox to make it fit exactly your needs. And the more “traditional” way of using piano-roll is also working perfectly in BM3
I prefer BM3 cuz its workflow is on point with what I do. Its weird because I started using fl studio when I first decided to dive into music years ago, and I use it til this day. So I'm used to both workflows but for some reason its as quick to get an idea down with BM3 on iPad as with fl studio on pc.
They are all pretty good. Right now Garageband is getting it done the most for me. The keyboard is a big factor. It’s very playable on iPad Pro 12.9. BM3 drum pads are delicious though.
BM3 is crashfest. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve lost a project to glitches and crashes. Fun toy. Too unstable for me.
My favourite iOS DAW is Nanostudio 2 :-) It just isn't released but that will change sooner or later ...
Try using it in airplane mode. I haven’t had it crash on me in weeks since turning on airplane mode which seems to help the stability of all my other music apps as well
Where What prompted the AHA moment?
I personally find the love of the Cubasis SYNTH and other instruments crucial.
Not just sample based, is what I mean.
Cubasis stock instruments are amazing.
The Fx and IAP are studio quality.
I love BM3 for fun or sketching.
But, at this time I cannot put it in the same category of a Cubasis for true studio type DAW for construction and pre studio production.
I find the inconsistent db and frequencies along with less than precise macros to be some of the things that need some polish on them with BM3.
Otherwise it is a work of art, no doubt.
But, some times, boring and obvious work best.
Simplify the launch methods and assembly process would do the app well.
I guess the app is more like AUM to me, a tool to access and use IAP or AU or process samples.
I really started enjoying BM3 once I got over the basic learning curve. Still much to learn, but it has become much more useable to me than Cubasis or Auria. I still might finish some tracks in Auria, though more and more I'm hearing better EQs and compression/limiting apps in AU. The thing that I really like about Beatmaker 3 is combining the possibilities of the sampler, midi and audio recording, making for fairly quick creation - yes, believe it. The one hassle that I have with it is IAA app connectivity which I wish was a bit more easy/robust/direct.