Syntronik, opinions?

livemike

I see the full iap is 40% off at the moment. Don’t hear that much about it on the interwebs, should one be tempted?

[Deleted User]

I personally have the whole lot and think it’s great. The only downside is the storage it takes.

I’ve recently got rid of over 100 music apps on my iPad to help focus on making music. I find that Syntronik has sounds I want and is easy to tweak them to fit any track. It’s fast and easy, sounds great and doesn’t kill off my processing head room as bad as Zeeon does!

livemike

Thanks fruitbat. How much storage?

[Deleted User]

4.69gb showing on mine.

[Deleted User]

Having four instances makes for some nice thick sounds easily without having to use four AU synths. The layered sounds are where the magic really works for me.

livemike

Does it compare with Layr? Anyone?

[Deleted User]

Yeah layers are awesome and LayR Synth is magnificent in its own special way. But Syntronik is a beast buffet of great Synths of the past that still sound amazing!

@Fruitbat1919 said:
Having four instances makes for some nice thick sounds easily without having to use four AU synths. The layered sounds are where the magic really works for me.

[Deleted User]

I don’t have LayR, not until it goes AU.

Philh0954

@Fruitbat1919 said:
I don’t have LayR, not until it goes AU.

You may get your wish.This showed up on FaceBook a couple hours ago.

Coming Soon: LayR's Birthday Treat!

As LayR’s first birthday approaches we have a real treat for you with an enormous and totally free update!

The first round of beta testing is over and as soon as the new manual is complete we’ll soon be opening it up to a wider group of testers to make sure we release it with as few bugs as possible! So without too much fuss and to put an end to speculation, here’s a list of what’s coming in a few weeks time: ( Facebook's lack of formatting has somewhat ruined this text but hey! ... )

First, the entire User Interface has had a massive facelift to make it much quicker and easier for new users while still keeping it familiar for existing users.

• Layer Editor controls are now fully labelled.
• Pinch to zoom and scroll the Layer Editor to access smaller dials or focus on a synth section.
• New, optional, "expert" level shortcuts that take advantage of touch screens for several new swipe gestures to quickly open and close UI panels without needing to tap on buttons.
• Double tap on the background to zoom the Layer Editor to the tapped location.
• All Dials: Increased accuracy and threshold between horizontal tracking ( fine control ) and vertical tracking ( coarse control ).
• An optional new "Light" colour scheme for working outside by the pool in the sunshine.

Intrument Mixer Panel:

• Drag and drop Instrument Strips to rearrange order.
• Drag and drop Instrument Strips to copy into or merge with another Instrument.
• Drag and drop Layer Strips to rearrange order within an instrument
• Drag and drop Layer Strips to the mixer background to create a new instrument with that Layer
• Drag and drop Layer Strips to other Instruments to make a copy in the destination Instrument.

Easier Import / Export:

• Bank Files: A new file type for importing and exporting entire banks of presets in a single file to Files.app
• LayR no longer imports directly to the current performance, instead it now utilizes the bank and program slots in the "load" and "save" panels.
• Import or Export whole banks or individual presets to and from Files.app directly from the preset load and save panels.
• Dropping files into iTunes documents now automatically imports them into LayR on next launch. ( no messing around with numbering )
• Access iTunes Documents folder directly from Files.app "On My iPad".
• The preset updating process has been streamlined, now only one message is displayed with a progress bar when factory presets are updated.

Load and Save Panels:

• In the Bank and Program preset lists you can now swipe left on a row to delete that bank or program.
• Import and Export now operates on slots in Preset filing system. When you import a program it no longer replaces the current performance.
• Performance "Append…" has been fixed, you can now append multiple performance programs to the currently loaded performance.

A New Modulation Matrix:
The Layer Editor keeps the old modulation mixers while introducing a new Mod Matrix that allows you to route any modulator to any destination.

Synth Engine:

• A new Oscillator mode providing coarse/fine tuning and improved FM with a much greater range.
• A new "Fixed" oscillator mode that decouples the oscillator from the MIDI keyboard.
• A new "Sync" mode for LFOs that keeps LFOs in all playing voices synced to the same phase as each other.
• An option in settings to keep LayR in "Legacy Mode". As LayR progresses CPU usage will increase, this option will give older devices a longer lifetime with LayR.
• To reduce aliasing artefacts as notes get higher the “Fold” amount in Filter 2 is now adjusted downwards as key notes go up.
• Reverb is now silenced when changing presets.

MIDI Ports:

• LayR’s now has 2 Virtual MIDI Input ports named LayR Instruments and LayR Performance.
• LayR Instruments is the old Input port renamed. If you’re running the LayR app un-hosted you should route all MIDI note and control change data to LayR Instruments.
• LayR Performance is a new MIDI port that responds on ALL channels to CC0 (bank select LSB), CC7 (volume) and Program Change only. All other MIDI events are ignored by this port. This means you can use this port to change the Performance bank/program and set the master volume independently of the 16 channels being used by the Instruments.
• Settings: A new option: Enable Performance MIDI Channel. If this option is ON then the LayR Instruments MIDI port will route CC0, CC7 and Program Change to the Performance Port on the specified channel. This is same as the default behaviour of LayR up until v1.2

Arpeggio Sequencer:
New features to take the Arpeggio Sequencer to a whole new level of creativity!

• New streamlined UI.
• New Playback Type
• Random: Notes are chosen at random from the held "chord".
• New Event Types
• Indexed: To choose specific notes the held "chord".
• Skip: Skips over the next note that would have been played.
• Every track in the sequencer can now have it's own playback Mode, Length and Speed
• Options to Copy/Paste/Clear tracks by long pressing on track background.
• The sustain pedal is no longer used to hold arpeggiator notes. Instead there is a new "Hold" button in the Master strip and Arpeggiator panel.

MIDI Controller Mixer
A brand new panel that brings a whole new level of performance control to LayR. This is at it's most basic level, a built-in MIDI Master Controller panel that can be saved with Performance presets.

• A Slider strip for each Channel Volume to group instrument volumes per MIDI channel while maintaining their relative volumes.
• A slider for every MIDI control assigned in the current Performance.
• Slider strips can renamed and can also be hidden from the mixer panel.
• The mixer panel can also be used to query to which instrument/layer/dial any MIDI controllers have been assigned to in the current Performance.
• The mixer can also be used (with an option in settings) to transmit MIDI CCs to LayR's MIDI output port.

Audio Unit:
A fully functional Audio Unit version of LayR. Except for a couple of "multi-output", "multi-timbral" features that are not (yet) supported by AU hosts.
Featuring:

• Zoomable and scrollable UI to make it much easier to see and use on that tiny thin strip in the host view.
• New Shortcut buttons in the Layer Editor to quickly zoom into useful locations in the UI.
• Pinch to zoom, and double tap to zoom.

Side note: It’s Living Memory Software's position that the Audio Unit version of LayR is ideal for playback and occasional preset "tweaking" but for serious sound editing and preset creation the full screen IAA app remains our preferred choice and should probably be yours too!

PDF Manual
A comprehensive manual replaces the old in-app help and with the new labelled controls, the old overlay in the Layer Editor is no longer needed.

More Sounds
And, of course, there are some new presets too!

gusgranite

@Philh0954 wow. This deserves its own thread.

JohnnyGoodyear

@gusgranite said:
@Philh0954 wow. This deserves its own thread.

YES IT DOES>

RedSkyLullaby

Syntronik is better than I think it gets credit for. The ability to layer 4 sounds in to a multi layer patch with 5 effects on each means you can get some pretty immense sounds from it. In terms of extreme layering Layr takes it though

RedSkyLullaby

Here are a bunch of Syntronik demos I did

gusgranite

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@gusgranite said:
@Philh0954 wow. This deserves its own thread.

YES IT DOES>

Doneski

iansainsbury

Okay, I went for the sale and installed the whole shebang on syntronik. I love writing and recording and I’m still crap at synthesis beyond the absolute basics, but I’m better with fx than I used to be, so I’m hoping this’ll be a good fit. Just tried it in cubasis 2 and ran up against a problem.
I used automation to record a lovely filter sweep on the Lfo of a pad. But cubasis didnt record the automation. Which is a complete bummer if I can’t get it working. Anyone got automation working with syntronik in cubasis? @RedSkyLullaby? @thesoundtestroom?

kobamoto

In you guys opinion does syntronik sound good compared to anything or does it just sound good for iOS?

kobamoto

@Fruitbat1919 said:
I personally have the whole lot and think it’s great. The only downside is the storage it takes.

I’ve recently got rid of over 100 music apps on my iPad to help focus on making music. I find that Syntronik has sounds I want and is easy to tweak them to fit any track. It’s fast and easy, sounds great and doesn’t kill off my processing head room as bad as Zeeon does!

is it your best sounding synth in your opinion ?

[Deleted User]

Worth every penny in gold!
Check out Doug’s video he goes thru lots of sounds!
Oh man and through Discord4, tone heaven!

@kobamoto said:

In you guys opinion does syntronik sound good compared to anything or does it just sound good for iOS?

[Deleted User]

Use Doug’s Link if u guys buy it.

kobamoto

@MusicMan4Christ said:
Worth every penny in gold!
Check out Doug’s video he goes thru lots of sounds!
Oh man and through Discord4, tone heaven!

@kobamoto said:

In you guys opinion does syntronik sound good compared to anything or does it just sound good for iOS?

checking out Dougs link now, is it your favorite sounding synth ?

kobamoto

from what I can tell it seems definitely worth the price, but I'm trying to get out of the habit of buying apps based on that and limiting myself to only considering the sound quality that stands up or both inside and outside of iOS.

[Deleted User]

@kobamoto said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:
I personally have the whole lot and think it’s great. The only downside is the storage it takes.

I’ve recently got rid of over 100 music apps on my iPad to help focus on making music. I find that Syntronik has sounds I want and is easy to tweak them to fit any track. It’s fast and easy, sounds great and doesn’t kill off my processing head room as bad as Zeeon does!

is it your best sounding synth in your opinion ?

I don’t really get too hung up in what sounds ‘best’. I have many many synths and recently deleted loads to try to make more music than just fiddling around with apps. So, I can only tell you what I use it for, which may be very different to how others use it. I’ve used it so far for mainly pad sounds, but that is probably because I’m on an Air2 and can’t run lots of instances of the better synths like this one, Zeeon, Model15 etc. I’m not saying it’s just a pad synth, it can do much more.

I really just pick whatever synth that has a sound I like that fits the song idea I’ve got going. I think it has some great sounds, but I’ve got more synth apps than I can ever use in any depth in my lifetime - hence the thining out of my apps. One weeks favourite synth is tomorrow’s app gathering virtual dust

[Deleted User]

The effects are amazing! Remember it’s not a full on synth but they’re samples of the magestic Synths of all time! But very tweakable! So much to go thru. It’s a complete Buffett!

[Deleted User]

What’s the sale price for the whole mothership?

kobamoto

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@kobamoto said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:
I personally have the whole lot and think it’s great. The only downside is the storage it takes.

I’ve recently got rid of over 100 music apps on my iPad to help focus on making music. I find that Syntronik has sounds I want and is easy to tweak them to fit any track. It’s fast and easy, sounds great and doesn’t kill off my processing head room as bad as Zeeon does!

is it your best sounding synth in your opinion ?

I don’t really get too hung up in what sounds ‘best’. I have many many synths and recently deleted loads to try to make more music than just fiddling around with apps. So, I can only tell you what I use it for, which may be very different to how others use it. I’ve used it so far for mainly pad sounds, but that is probably because I’m on an Air2 and can’t run lots of instances of the better synths like this one, Zeeon, Model15 etc. I’m not saying it’s just a pad synth, it can do much more.

I really just pick whatever synth that has a sound I like that fits the song idea I’ve got going. I think it has some great sounds, but I’ve got more synth apps than I can ever use in any depth in my lifetime - hence the thining out of my apps. One weeks favourite synth is tomorrow’s app gathering virtual dust

this is what I'm trying to avoid adding too.... have too many apps to shake a stick at and trying to not just jump on something because it's a good deal... btw thanks for sharing.

kobamoto

@MusicMan4Christ said:
What’s the sale price for the whole mothership?

looking like $47

[Deleted User]

Great price for all the Synths! But still high though but worth it. I had to sell stuff to buy it at intro.

[Deleted User]

I think it was at $89 not long ago.

[Deleted User]

Oh it’s AU now too.

[Deleted User]

@kobamoto said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@kobamoto said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:
I personally have the whole lot and think it’s great. The only downside is the storage it takes.

I’ve recently got rid of over 100 music apps on my iPad to help focus on making music. I find that Syntronik has sounds I want and is easy to tweak them to fit any track. It’s fast and easy, sounds great and doesn’t kill off my processing head room as bad as Zeeon does!

is it your best sounding synth in your opinion ?

I don’t really get too hung up in what sounds ‘best’. I have many many synths and recently deleted loads to try to make more music than just fiddling around with apps. So, I can only tell you what I use it for, which may be very different to how others use it. I’ve used it so far for mainly pad sounds, but that is probably because I’m on an Air2 and can’t run lots of instances of the better synths like this one, Zeeon, Model15 etc. I’m not saying it’s just a pad synth, it can do much more.

I really just pick whatever synth that has a sound I like that fits the song idea I’ve got going. I think it has some great sounds, but I’ve got more synth apps than I can ever use in any depth in my lifetime - hence the thining out of my apps. One weeks favourite synth is tomorrow’s app gathering virtual dust

this is what I'm trying to avoid adding too.... have too many apps to shake a stick at and trying to not just jump on something because it's a good deal... btw thanks for sharing.

Yeah I’m beginning to realise the error of my ways buying too many apps. Since deleting all DAWs except BM3 and getting rid of lots of synth apps, I’ve started to go back to getting to the sounds I want quicker - hence making more music. I think the thing I like about it the most is - it has lots of sounds I like and it’s easy to tweak them. Some synths are undoubtably great like Model15, but I don’t like programming it’s interface.

kobamoto

hmm, I had thought it was modeling before checking it out I wonder if another way to look at it is like a nice sample library with layering and some nice effects....