Major Layr update coming (AU!)

gusgranite

Ooh, that looks sweet.

Daveypoo

TheVimFuego

Substantial update indeed ...

AudioGus

How is Layr for patch/bank import/export? Could it be a candidate for the next AB Forum patch-athon-arama-palooza?

[Deleted User]

@AudioGus said:
How is Layr for patch/bank import/export? Could it be a candidate for the next AB Forum patch-athon-arama-palooza?

What’s a palooza?

brice

@AudioGus said:
How is Layr for patch/bank import/export? Could it be a candidate for the next AB Forum patch-athon-arama-palooza?

It’s easy: one tap to export a single preset or an entire bank to Dropbox, Drive, iCloud, etc. I think it’s a definite candidate. I’ve got somewhere between 10 and 500 presets ready to go.

rthr

@brice said:
I’ve got somewhere between 10 and 500 presets ready to go.

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ageezz

@MonzoPro said:
Something I’d like to see in an update at some point, are some performance knobs. At the moment we have to dive into the individual layers to hunt out filters and whatnot. Virsyn are good at this sort of thing, with assignable x/y pads etc. A single screen with x/y pads, and assignable controls would provide an easy way to manipulate sounds during a performance.

Another bonus for those who assign a number of controllers to an Instrument - you can save controller assignments as presets. You can then assign multiple controllers to new creations with one button press!

[Deleted User]

@ageezz said:

@MonzoPro said:
Something I’d like to see in an update at some point, are some performance knobs. At the moment we have to dive into the individual layers to hunt out filters and whatnot. Virsyn are good at this sort of thing, with assignable x/y pads etc. A single screen with x/y pads, and assignable controls would provide an easy way to manipulate sounds during a performance.

Another bonus for those who assign a number of controllers to an Instrument - you can save controller assignments as presets. You can then assign multiple controllers to new creations with one button press!

Even better!

ExAsperis99

Bueller? Bueller?

Daveypoo

I'm on the edge of my seat with this one.

We're post-April 1. Any news?

lovadamusic

@brice said:

@skiphunt said:
@brice to be honest... although I recognized LayR's arp section as being very powerful... and I saw you used it quite a bit in your presets... I never really understood how it worked. There had been tutorial videos promised on the arp section, but unless I'm mistaken those never came. Is this new update's interface for the arp section any easier for mortals to understand now?

Hey Skip! That’s understandable. And to be quite honest, I’m surprised by the “Arp” section quite often, still. It was powerful before. And now it’s significantly more powerful. I put Arp in quotes because it needs to be thought of differently to understand fully what it is and can do. Arp Sequencer I think is more appropriate.

The Arp aspect purely relates to the notes you choose to play, and the sequencer is what you see above in my screenshot. Nothing in that interface has anything to do with defining notes on the keyboard. It’s all to do with how the notes are played back over time. Though, there is a new concept here that sort of blurs those lines. The “note index” cell; those sections you see above that have numbers on them. Those numbers indicate which note of a held chord the sequencer is going to play back. For example, hold 6 notes on the keyboard and a standard “Up” pattern will cycle through those 6 notes in order from lowest to highest then repeat that process. With this new note index cell you determine the order in which the notes are played back. And of course you can define how many steps those notes should be held. This is incredibly powerful.

Each lane / channel can have its own playback speed and it’s own playback pattern: Up, Down, Up & Down, Random.

And apparently you now get your own cell type, the “Skip” cell. This one does as the name suggests; wherever it’s placed, that note will be skipped as the playhead passes over it. And yes, there are now playheads for each lane, which are very helpful in the visual feedback department.

The sequencer also sequences MIDI CC data of course. And given that every parameter in LayR can be automated means incredibly complex sequences can be generated.

And don’t forget, LayR has a MIDI out port. So this sequencer can control anything that has MIDI in.

Too much to go into in this post. I’m going to try and put together a tutorial on some of the ways I’ve been using this tool. It is still very complex, but very accessible. Definitely worth diving in and learning IMO.

Should come with warnings of side effects, like possible head explosion.

Thanks for the great info. This is one amazing app that really deserves more documentation and tutorials. Anyone who offers such is doing a real service.

eross

When is this thing getting released again?. I’ve been revisiting this app, and forgot how great it is.i can’t wait to see all the new stuff

eross

anybody heard anymore on this update?

[Deleted User]

@eross said:
anybody heard anymore on this update?

No, I’ve been revisiting it too, so keen to see what the update brings.

ExAsperis99

There is no spoon.

Daveypoo

There is no LayR update.

No really, there isn't.

Yet.

eross

@ExAsperis99 said:
There is no spoon.

brice

Proto

The layers of spoons are clearly visible because they are presented on a white background.

CracklePot

@eross said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
There is no spoon.

That’s just a CG spoon. You know, just like the moon.

CracklePot

So reading the description of the ARP, it sounds similar to the ARP in some of the virsyn apps. Is this correct?

brice

@Proto said:
The layers of spoons are clearly visible because they are presented on a white background.

Indeed. Helpful for the sun-shiners.

brice

@CracklePot said:
So reading the description of the ARP, it sounds similar to the ARP in some of the virsyn apps. Is this correct?

I think that’s a fair comparison. Their operations are visually similar in that step sequencer sort of DNA. But I also think there are vast differences in their uses and capabilities. Mainly that LayR is a multitimbral synth, and each sequencer lane / pattern can drive one or many of those timbres independently. And there are 8 possible lanes to populate. Perhaps there is a VirSynth app with similar capabilities that I’m not aware of? Don’t get me wrong, VirSynth makes very impressive apps IMO. Just stating where I think LayR differs on the Arp / sequencer side.

Proto

@brice said:

@Proto said:
The layers of spoons are clearly visible because they are presented on a white background.

Indeed. Helpful for the sun-shiners.

This is great news and just what I was hoping for.

Daveypoo

Man alive - enough teasers. I'm ready for the real deal!

CracklePot

@brice said:

@CracklePot said:
So reading the description of the ARP, it sounds similar to the ARP in some of the virsyn apps. Is this correct?

I think that’s a fair comparison. Their operations are visually similar in that step sequencer sort of DNA. But I also think there are vast differences in their uses and capabilities. Mainly that LayR is a multitimbral synth, and each sequencer lane / pattern can drive one or many of those timbres independently. And there are 8 possible lanes to populate. Perhaps there is a VirSynth app with similar capabilities that I’m not aware of? Don’t get me wrong, VirSynth makes very impressive apps IMO. Just stating where I think LayR differs on the Arp / sequencer side.

That sounds pretty amazing! I was enquiring mainly because it reminded me of my understanding of the virsyn style arps from trying to learn how to use those. Mainly the way you can create specific key-press # playback patterns. Usually you have up, down, their varieties, random, or key-press order. Virsyn went one further and let your use key press # to sequence a custom note order, which was new to me.

I was hoping they were similar enough (virsyn and LayR arps) that maybe people could use their prior experience with virsyn synths arps, or even virsyn synth arp tutorials, to better understand the LayR arp.

The mutitimbral nature of LayR and the way it is integrated throughout the app sounds pretty mind blowing. Can’t wait to see what people are going to do with it. I need to watch some demos of this app in action.

eross

sold, bring on the update! it looks perfect. i’m ready

[Deleted User]

Not sure why but i would touch the "don´t touch" sliders first. Nice details in this GUI and i also like the bright one much more (prefer it for DRC as well).

ExAsperis99

@Proto said:

@brice said:

@Proto said:
The layers of spoons are clearly visible because they are presented on a white background.

Indeed. Helpful for the sun-shiners.

This is great news and just what I was hoping for.

So interesting. I think this looks totally off-putting and absolutely no fun to play with! Then again, I find the app kind of intimidating with all the power it has under the hood, so maybe I'm not the target audience.