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Finding the MIDI route in between iOS musical Apps

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    The furthest I got on iOS with midi ease of fun is Cubasis with AUs. The AU automation is super sweet now. Gadget was nice but I will take a timeline over clip based any day.

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  • One MIDI aspect of Audio Evolution Mobile I appreciate - if your incoming MIDI has channel data, you can just hit record, then after with a couple taps you can instantly split out all the MIDI into separate tracks

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  • I like the idea behind this topic. It is a lot to take in right now, but I should be able to comment something later tonight after I can read all the posts more closely.

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  • Interested in this too.
    I gave up on all of this, as it was much easier to track everything Midi to DAW.

    I wish AUM could record multitrack Midi performances - then all of this would be simple.

  • Here’s how I’m trying to work.

    AUM plus everything I can throw at it = Sketchbook
    Egoist / Reslice / Samplr / Blocswave / Sector / Looptunes / K Machine / Samplist = Sample Muncher / Loop Maker
    Quantum / Rozeta / Thesys = Arpy Riffage
    Navichord / Suggester / Dream Foot = Chordy Paddage
    Xequence = MIDI Sequencer
    BM3 = DAW / Audio Sequencer / Sample Layer Cake and Polisher

    GR-16 = Groovebox

    Gadget = Change of Scene

  • @tja said:
    From my Apps, the following seem to be able to sequence things in AudioBus, AUM and Cubasis:

    Piano Roll Sequencers:

    • modstep

    Mixed Sequencers:

    • KRFT
    • SunVox

    Step Sequencers:

    • ChordFlow
    • midiSTEPs
    • Quantum
    • Xynthesizr
    • modstep

    So, modstep is most versatile, but adding at least one dedicated Step Sequencer could be useful.

    So modstep plus ...Quantum, i think.

    To concentrate on something.

    add StepPolyArp & Thesys, Cubasis can record record midi from Thesys. Very versatile arp.

    I don’t have midisteps, is it good for anything ?

  • @Kühl said:

    I don’t have midisteps, is it good for anything ?

    It's a very nice 4-track sketch/step-sequencer with possibility to use multiple patterns per track and a quite easy way to transpose the sequences during playback.

    For me the only advantages it has over the Rozeta Suite is that it can run as stand-alone and has multiple patterns and the UI nice. It can easily host up to 4 AUv3's for quickly sketching ideas and saving 'session snapshots'.

    I seldom use it as I try to 'focus' around the 3 apps I use the most (Gadget, Cubasis, BM3 & loads of AUv3's).

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    I’m very much interested in this topic as I am experiment with this topic on my own right now. So far what I found to be best is:

    Midi track in cubasis > midi out to synth
    Audiobus audio of the synth > audio track in cubasis

    A alternative is routing the midi thru Audiobus depending on the synth capability.

    You do have to pick your synth very carefully.

    I’ll try to post picture tonight if needed.

  • @Samu said:

    @Kühl said:

    I don’t have midisteps, is it good for anything ?

    It's a very nice 4-track sketch/step-sequencer with possibility to use multiple patterns per track and a quite easy way to transpose the sequences during playback.

    For me the only advantages it has over the Rozeta Suite is that it can run as stand-alone and has multiple patterns and the UI nice. It can easily host up to 4 AUv3's for quickly sketching ideas and saving 'session snapshots'.

    I seldom use it as I try to 'focus' around the 3 apps I use the most (Gadget, Cubasis, BM3 & loads of AUv3's).

    Hmmm. I think I’ll buy it. See if Doug or someone has a link from YouTube.
    I need a fast reliable app to sketch ideas on, and if the app has patterns, even better.

    My main apps on iOS is cubasis, Auria Pro & gadget. BeatMaker is still a mystery to me, but maybe I’ll have time in the Easter holidays to read the manual. My main main apps are of course Symphony pro and Notion, but those are for my serious work. Writing arrangements for people, I use notes, staffs and clefs :smile:
    AB3, AUM and & the Grand Bram Suite of apps... we don’t need to mention them. They are obviously given...

    Takker for tipset. Jättebra! :smiley:

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    @Kühl said:

    @Samu said:

    @Kühl said:

    I don’t have midisteps, is it good for anything ?

    It's a very nice 4-track sketch/step-sequencer with possibility to use multiple patterns per track and a quite easy way to transpose the sequences during playback.

    For me the only advantages it has over the Rozeta Suite is that it can run as stand-alone and has multiple patterns and the UI nice. It can easily host up to 4 AUv3's for quickly sketching ideas and saving 'session snapshots'.

    I seldom use it as I try to 'focus' around the 3 apps I use the most (Gadget, Cubasis, BM3 & loads of AUv3's).

    Hmmm. I think I’ll buy it. See if Doug or someone has a link from YouTube.
    I need a fast reliable app to sketch ideas on, and if the app has patterns, even better.

    My main apps on iOS is cubasis, Auria Pro & gadget. BeatMaker is still a mystery to me, but maybe I’ll have time in the Easter holidays to read the manual. My main main apps are of course Symphony pro and Notion, but those are for my serious work. Writing arrangements for people, I use notes, staffs and clefs :smile:
    AB3, AUM and & the Grand Bram Suite of apps... we don’t need to mention them. They are obviously given...

    Takker for tipset. Jättebra! :smiley:

    It’s kinda amazing. Like @skiphunt said, you get 4 AUV3 slots, each having 4 AUV3 Fx slots. You can tap on CC, set the out to any of the AU apps, and sequence their cc’s, if you leave the parameter opened on the scroll thingy, you can then modulate and record the cc via external MIDI. Tap on the AUV3 name in the cc value list to switch between the loaded apps. Each the 4 parts and and their respective 16 patterns has independent lengths, start, stop, and sync, all of which can be changed on the fly. You can also skip, mute, pause steps.on the fly, and assign probability %’s by step. Accents, ties and too much else to list.

  • Thank you for the tip. I’m looking into it now, on YouTube.
    The app looks great, but I dunno if it’s the thing I’m looking for.

  • @Kühl said:

    Thank you for the tip. I’m looking into it now, on YouTube.
    The app looks great, but I dunno if it’s the thing I’m looking for.

    No doubt - options are good, until they're not! I haven't had it open in a long time, but your post got me into firing it back up. The manual is like 20 pages, very succinct. I think it finally made sense to me that he calls it a "toy" but before today I thought it was just self-deprecating or something, now I think it means the app is meant to "play (perform) with." So the UI is maybe tailored for on the fly sequencing, with everything else just below.

    Couple other aspects I like:
    1. like that if you play a chord, it auto puts all the notes on the same pad.
    2. Also like that each of the 4 parts can be started, stopped and synced independently (and changed on the fly)
    3. And lastly the MIDI map options up in Settings are really handy, being able to quickly map ties/accents, and a nice little 4x4 of buttons to switch around between the parts.

  • @tja said:

    I am very often to suggestions, of course :-)

    You could go the master control route like this:

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  • @Aud_iOS said:

    @Kühl said:

    Thank you for the tip. I’m looking into it now, on YouTube.
    The app looks great, but I dunno if it’s the thing I’m looking for.

    No doubt - options are good, until they're not! I haven't had it open in a long time, but your post got me into firing it back up. The manual is like 20 pages, very succinct. I think it finally made sense to me that he calls it a "toy" but before today I thought it was just self-deprecating or something, now I think it means the app is meant to "play (perform) with." So the UI is maybe tailored for on the fly sequencing, with everything else just below.

    Couple other aspects I like:
    1. like that if you play a chord, it auto puts all the notes on the same pad.
    2. Also like that each of the 4 parts can be started, stopped and synced independently (and changed on the fly)
    3. And lastly the MIDI map options up in Settings are really handy, being able to quickly map ties/accents, and a nice little 4x4 of buttons to switch around between the parts.

    At last I didn’t buy it. I write and read notes, so for me it looked like something I could do without. I wouldn’t call it a you though. It could be helpful for many, I see the potentials. Thanks for your investigation of the app :smile:

  • @Kühl said:

    @Aud_iOS said:

    @Kühl said:

    Thank you for the tip. I’m looking into it now, on YouTube.
    The app looks great, but I dunno if it’s the thing I’m looking for.

    At last I didn’t buy it. I write and read notes, so for me it looked like something I could do without. I wouldn’t call it a you though. It could be helpful for many, I see the potentials. Thanks for your investigation of the app :smile:

    Sure, was fun. I’m kinda MIDI obsessed for a while. Just about finished writing a deep dive into the Mac’s MIDI Network Session, learned a ton along the way. After I’m writing about differences in USB Audio between 1.0 and 3.2, so I will happily follow along your MIDI explorations.

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