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Chord app, Strangled at birth?
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Just spotted, via Discchord, another chord generating app, which seemed like it might be fun.
Unfortunately, it turns out to be a subscription based app, with either a bug or a deliberate crippling of any export option with the free version. Hell, you cannot even change instruments without paying more. Such a pity. I’d have taken a chance on this for a fiver!
Chord Progression Generator by Michael Krautsieder
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/chord-progression-generator/id1339399661?mt=8
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I downloaded it too, after playing with it for 5 mins I deleted it.
Only major or minor scales and only triads. Rhythms are just banging out the chord at random intervals.
I MIGHT have paid a buck for it, but certainly no more.
LMFAO... em nevermind. Lovely app. Can't wait to get it.
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My sympathies for your FA state.
But seriously, why can’t you see the difference between a developer trying (Fortamento) and a developer trying it on?
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I like to encourage those trying to do something along these lines, and would’ve been happy at £4.99 for this, on the assumltion that development would occur. The recent Fortamento app, may go places, and is a great buy for £0.99p.
But this app has so much wrong from day one, and I don’t understand why any developer would go down this route. Especially before they have a whiz bang product,
TBF the subscription is 20£ for lifetime use. Might be too steep an asking price and it better be worth it... my point in the other thread... no ill intent towards the developer but if they had done their market research they might have realised the app is redundant given the multitude of better options available, like this one maybe?
What is the problem with these devs these days? Lol
This one... Beat Snap too...
are there any other chord suggester apps like this, but more complex? favorites?
Actually this dev strikes me as taking the appropriate route. The monthly subscription is like a trial offer. The annual subscription is a lot better than a monthly subscription in and possibly even better than a one time purchase. If the app doesn't improve over the year and you don't like or need to use it you haven't lost anything. Just let the subscription expire. What I find the most interesting is that if you get a lot of value from the app you can then pay the higher fee for the lifetime subscription.
Conversely you've got Korg selling everything at roughly 30-40 dollars per app and in most cases there's no trial so you are risking getting an app you don't like for a high price. But they're Korg, with a longstanding reputation.
Then you've got Auxy which charges a ridiculously high monthly subscription and once it expires you lose it. There's no lifetime sub option there...
So any app developer who needs to fund their development without looking greedy and price gouging, ought to follow the payment plan offered in this example.
To continue with this... charging a buck for an app... personally I'd never go for that. It tells me that the dev is selling an unfinished product and if you didn't like it, so what it was only a dollar. How's the dev going to earn anything substantial off of it? And what incentive is there to offer customer support unless they further develop it and increase the price? Releasing an unfinished app at a low price is a risky move because by the time your app is mature, it's been sitting around on the market for however long, six months or several years. It's stale and has mediocre reviews. The customers you had are likely bored and resentful of your app and have moved on to a better app. No one else will want it. So then you need to make a version 2 or something.
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You could look up these on the App Store and see if they offer what you need.
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As Mr LucidMusic suggests, some devs see this as a feasible path to funding their development plans.
Personally, while I can be persuaded to fork out a few quid to gamble on an app I believe has potential, and more quids if that potential is realised, I just do not like subscription at any price.
The best development plan may be the one employed by Brambos: make really good apps that do what is claimed, and sell them at a reasonable price. Because people know they can trust him to deliver and maintain his apps - and listen to customers requests - it becomes almost automatic to buy the latest.
Can't argue with you there
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D’accord!
Chordbot is extremely interesting. With it you can sketch a groove or compose an entire arrangement. When I had a guitar I used it for backing tracks and I like certain instrumental riffs it has and I actually use audio renders in my arrangements, sparingly. But more often I use it for sketching a groove. It plays riffs that you can combine and you've got several tracks, song parts... it's great and I've heard the dev is considering giving it midi out for realtime recording. It's also Audiobus compatible as an audio output.
ChordPolyPad is an instrument. It's worth the price especially if you've got a couple of devices. It comes with Bluetooth midi built in meaning you can use the pads on one device to control a synth on another, or within the same device through midi. Lots of other useful and innovative features like note velocity and chord complexity, (eg. simple triads and weird inverted suspended 9the etc). You've got I think 128 pads to make templates for performances/practice and recording situations.
Can't say enough good things about these apps. Get them both.
Rozeta also has chord functionality in one of its modules. I wouldn't have known about it were it not for the video made by @thesoundtestroom. Rozeta doesn't get enough marketing. I think the Rozeta suite could be completed with some more midi performance modules like chord pads and other CC controllers besides the XY pads and sequencers.
Yes please. That would be a wonderful update.
chordbot is very interesting. i’m liking that one. thanks
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Maybe my post was too rushed... lol
I think the business model is pretty cool...
The problem is releasing a crippled application
Considering I already have Chordbot, Chordflow, ProChords, Suggester, Navichord, etc. my instant reaction was to delete Chord Progression Generator and not even be tempted by it no more
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I hadn’t heard of that one. Looks interesting. Grabbed it now before I forget.
As I've said before, GarageBand also has a great chord suggester and a fairly good selection of Apple Midi and audio loops for that extra bit of inspiration.
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Hadn’t heard of this one, either. Looks really good.
Sorry to make you spend! lol
But I guess you wouldn't regret it... It's one of the classics
Are you looking for Chord Progression generator, or a chord grouping type of trigger pad controller? Because the suggestions given are a mixed bag of the two, mostly being in the latter group. And some are more accompaniment/ comping pattern libraries that follow chord progressions you enter yourself.
I love generative patches, but I don't get the appeal of these chord suggesters. Why would I want to outsource that? It's like paying someone to make love to my wife for me.
It just depends on what you are tying to achieve. Sometimes an original chord progression doesn’t matter, you just want anything that has good chord/root movement. Sometimes, you are a creator of pornographic films and your wife is the lead along with another male actor.
See, it just depends.
suggester is great.
they are good for learning. Or if you don't have keyboard skills to play the changes.
It's a shame someone(a talented Dev, like @brambos) couldn't make an app simular to Plugin Boutique "Scaler" vst app. I've got this on my PC...... It's brilliant.
I have no use for a chord progression generator. ChordPolyPad does what I want. I can't play a keyboard on a flat screen. For one-finger chords set up nicely with MIDI control, this app pretty much covers it. Chordbot looks interesting -- have to check it out.
Not sure what the problem is. There's lots of stuff to buy out there, most of it useless or priced wrong for our particular needs. This isn't unique to the App Store.
Zen said: "The best development plan may be the one employed by Brambos: make really good apps that do what is claimed, and sell them at a reasonable price."
It may be. This is very nice for the buyer, but possibly not so reasonable for the developer. It looks like the dev for Chord Progression Generator is taking an entrepreneurial approach here. Maybe it works for him, maybe not. If he can make an app that people want enough to pay a subscription (or higher one-time payment) for, more power to him.