Beepstreet Drambo

gusgranite

@giku_beepstreet said:

btw. Out of curiosity: guys what do you think about app subscription model?

You are totally winding us up... 😂

(...aren’t you???)

NoiseFloored

Does the general opposition to the subscription model stem from

• A higher total cost of ownership (real or perceived)?
• Potential for support vanishing (whereas an old unsupported non-sub app can at least remain active in a non-upgraded device)?
• Something else?

audio_DT

@lukesleepwalker said:

@giku_beepstreet said:
btw. Out of curiosity: guys what do you think about app subscription model?

😂😂😂😂😂 My tuppence: I’d rather not have subscription. My rule is never to use that option. I’m very happy to pay for IAPs, though.

cuscolima

@giku_beepstreet said:
btw. Out of curiosity: guys what do you think about app subscription model?

Well, if you are able to release new content every 1-2 months then why not. But for the moment we are still waiting for the basic features (for almost 2 years), so...

kinkujin

Subscription for me = no buy

ExAsperis99

Guys. He’s kidding. Good grief.

Svetlovska

@giku_beepstreet said:
btw. Out of curiosity: guys what do you think about app subscription model?

I love your apps. I will buy IAP all day long for a good one. Have done, for many apps in my collection. But I will never, under any circumstance whatsoever, pay a subscription model for any app, no matter how good it is. Just no.

rarien

Nicebutfun

Subscription
Best joke of the thread 😆

Synthi

@giku_beepstreet said:
btw. Out of curiosity: guys what do you think about app subscription model?

NEIN!!!

wim

@jipumarino said:
Does the general opposition to the subscription model stem from

• A higher total cost of ownership (real or perceived)?
• Potential for support vanishing (whereas an old unsupported non-sub app can at least remain active in a non-upgraded device)?
• Something else?

Something else. First, I don't want to accumulate any more incremental monthly charges to keep track of. Second, I don't enjoy the process of considering whether or not an expense is something I want to do and won't regret. But, once I decide to buy an app I never, ever, look back. With subscription, I would need to go through that process every month. That would take enough of the fun out of it that I would just stick with what I have.

It's the same for me with Patreon. I don't do Patreon, but do send one-off donations when I feel led that way, and I feel good about it when I do. I would not like have to consider on a regular basis if I still want to continue a monthly donation, and I would feel guilty if I withdrew it.

But, I totally get that it's a good proposition for some developers and customers. Just not me.

Charlesalbert

Subscription is a one way road to bad reviews on AppStore and definitely a no go for me. I can only stand Spotify and netflix😂😂😂 I prefer pay higher price once then have recurring bill every month

Shabudua

@jipumarino said:
Does the general opposition to the subscription model stem from

• A higher total cost of ownership (real or perceived)?
• Potential for support vanishing (whereas an old unsupported non-sub app can at least remain active in a non-upgraded device)?
• Something else?

I know the perceptions of subscription aren’t quite rational, but even irrational perceptions matter when you’re being asked for money.

1. It’s the feeling of being blackmailed. If I stop paying, my software goes away.
2. It’s having to pay for something every month, even if I don’t use it every month. I know you can unsubscribe/resubscribe, but that’s extra hassle.
3. It’s having to rent something that I’m perfectly willing & able to buy.

ChancedMusic

The only way to do subscription is with a daily access subscription. Charge for every day a user opens the app. Use it a bunch, pay a bunch. Use it never, don’t pay.

Easy peasy lemon squeezey.

Apex

@Gaia.Tree said:
subscription is a definite no from me. I will buy IAP all day long tho

THIS. Subscription model is a total dealbreaker. I’ll buy pretty much every IAP though.

NoiseFloored

@Shabudua @wim thanks, I've always had the same gut reaction against subs but never managed to put them in words. You did that for me

gusgranite

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/27929/subscription-model/p1
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/27507/apps-with-subscription-models-opinions-discussion/p1
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/24256/about-subscription-software-and-how-it-came-to-be-the-necessary-evil/p1
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/31961/apple-subscription-services-on-the-march-will-music-apps-be-forced-to-join

I still think he's joking.

[Deleted User]

@ExAsperis99 said:

WHAT IF THIS IS HOW THE THREAD ENDED? AND GIKU VANISHED? IT WAS ALL AN ART PIECE!

Hilarious!

Philippe

Subscription model gives a feeling of urgency to use the damn thing to avoid the feeling of wasting money.
In other word, is evil.

Coupled with art, kill creativity = nightmare/hell.

I would deny the very existence of Drambo.

wim

I wish this thread should go subscription. We should check if Michael can do that.

espiegel123

@giku_beepstreet said:
btw. Out of curiosity: guys what do you think about app subscription model?

I'd much rather pay more and provide you future income through IAPs. I have a strong disinclination for the subscription model for software that I actually use.

JohnnyGoodyear

@ExAsperis99 said:

@giku_beepstreet said:
btw. Out of curiosity: guys what do you think about app subscription model?

WHAT IF THIS IS HOW THE THREAD ENDED? AND GIKU VANISHED? IT WAS ALL AN ART PIECE!

Brilliant.

AudioGus

LOL, clever distraction / tactic bringing up subscriptions.

iammane

ITS A RUSE TO PROPEL THIS TO 200 PAGES. IT IS WORKING!!

giku_beepstreet

Thanks a lot! It has nothing to do with Drambo. I’ve been just curious of your opinion., that I agree with.. as a user

johnfromberkeley

@Gaia.Tree said:
subscription is a definite no from me. I will buy IAP all day long tho

@giku_beepstreet ^ This. Give me a complete bundle, I’ll buy that.

osc101

@giku_beepstreet said:
Thanks a lot! It has nothing to do with Drambo. I’ve been just curious of your opinion., that I agree with.. as a user

As a user, I simply don’t do subscriptions. This is non negotiable. Bad idea.

AudioGus

I would totally do subscription for apps that are really well maintained and updated a lot (likely with a sizable team) and perform fantastically well, with a host of tried and true proven features/methodologies. Something like Procreate, sure. There just really isn't an audio app equivalent of that at the moment (imho).

Sergiu

I wonder if there are any other external factors that influence the "functional state" or "operational conduct" of an app...is there any "fluctuations " in parameters or adjustments that requires to be made from time to time ( im not a programmer)...'cause in my humble logic regarding this matter...i see no reason for an app not to function well...since the last update. Once you reach a final satisfying operational status, what makes you come back and work more on it? ...or am i missing something? > @AudioGus said:

I would totally do subscription for apps that are really well maintained and updated a lot (likely with a sizable team) and perform fantastically well, with a host of tried and true proven features/methodologies. Something like Procreate, sure. There just really isn't an audio app equivalent of that at the moment (imho).

dendy

@giku_beepstreet said:
Thanks a lot! It has nothing to do with Drambo. I’ve been just curious of your opinion., that I agree with.. as a user

Be cautious what you ask in Drambo thread - people are ready to make assumptions from assumptions )) ... i'm pretty sure you pushed some people to the edge of heart attack :-))))))