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Beepstreet Drambo

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  • edited February 2020

    @rs2000 said:

    @bcrichards said:
    @rs2000 to extend that analogy a little further it’s as if every component in MOZAIC could be visually connected together, and rarely does something just not work.

    I think I’ve learned more about synthesis from using Drambo than any other tool. Some preexisting knowledge helps but because everything is laid out linearly, deciphering signal flow from the presets and user patches is simple (compared to following a bunch of wires in a traditional modular system)

    I've built tons of patches on the Nord Modular over the years and even though I consider it a very straightforward, easy-to-use system, never been as fast with it as with Drambo.

    I think that’s because the Nord modulars were more like traditional patch cable modulars than Drambo.

    I miss my G2 but I’m very excited for Drambo.

    Which is why I hate this thread and every time it gets bumped without a release date post. :disappointed:

    I need to stop contributing to the problem.

  • anyone knows if there's some time stretching facilities supplied with Drambo?

  • @Jeezs said:
    anyone knows if there's some time stretching facilities supplied with Drambo?

    Nope not yet.

  • @Daveypoo said:

    Drambo or Sunvox? Do you think I can ditch Quincy and use Drambo for all my music and word processing?

    Which dongle do I need?

  • @johnfromberkeley said:
    Drambo or Sunvox? Do you think I can ditch Quincy and use Drambo for all my music and word processing?

    Which dongle do I need?

    I suggest you hold out for Beatmaker 4 and NanoStudio 3 - they should both be released in the next few weeks.

  • What’s the over/under on amount of days til release?

  • And whose taking bets?

  • @Daveypoo said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    Drambo or Sunvox? Do you think I can ditch Quincy and use Drambo for all my music and word processing?

    Which dongle do I need?

    I suggest you hold out for Beatmaker 4 and NanoStudio 3 - they should both be released in the next few weeks.

    I hope they have awesome subscriptions!

  • @Poppadocrock said:
    What’s the over/under on amount of days til release?

    I’m writing a letter for my great great great grandchildren and putting it in a time capsule. It tells the story of all of the excitement and anticipation around Drambo. I want them to open the time capsule and read the letter when Drambo is finally released.

  • @Daveypoo said:

    Mr. Poo – do you know if this will purée in 3/4 time? Because I can always purée in 4/4 time with any dumb app, but I am really trying to get more efficient in the kitchen.

    If it cannot do 3/4, I am willing to settle for 6/8 time. 5/4 time is not acceptable, as we eat dinner early and we can’t be messing around with extra quarters.

  • @johnfromberkeley said:

    @Daveypoo said:

    Mr. Poo – do you know if this will purée in 3/4 time? Because I can always purée in 4/4 time with any dumb app, but I am really trying to get more efficient in the kitchen.

    If it cannot do 3/4, I am willing to settle for 6/8 time. 5/4 time is not acceptable, as we eat dinner early and we can’t be messing around with extra quarters.

    It also makes Julienne fries!

  • edited February 2020

    @Daveypoo said:

    I feel you’re overreacting.
    There’s a wiki page with videos and other info on the app. I don’t have the link but related thread is floating near the top of the forum atm.

    A ha. Just learned something. It’s not kid’s but kid gloves!

    To handle or treat something with kid gloves is to do so with special consideration or in a tactful manner, often due to a perceived sensitivity. Kid gloves are simply gloves made from kid leather—in other words, the skin from a young goat.

  • edited February 2020

    @supadom said:
    I feel you’re overreacting.
    There’s a wiki page with videos and other info on the app. I don’t have the link but related thread is floating near the top of the forum atm.

    Oh, don't mind me - I'm just screwing around. The troll was a reference to myself asking obviously stupid questions that have been asked 1,000 times in this thread already.

    I check this thread EVERY DAY just like most of you peeps. Just trying to keep the conversation light so we don't get so antsy waiting for Drambo to save the day.

    Go about your business - nothing to see here!

  • ...and all of this due to the time this app had public exposure.
    Question is : would you have liked knowing about this work in -progress since its development debut Or three days before the official release with clear info/manual attached?

    Let’s see how ethics work ?

  • @Sergiu said:
    ...and all of this due to the time this app had public exposure.
    Question is : would you have liked knowing about this work in -progress since its development debut Or three days before the official release with clear info/manual attached?

    Let’s see how ethics work ?

    Pretty sure we already had this discussion 20-50 pages ago.

  • Impartial!> @drez said:

    @Sergiu said:
    ...and all of this due to the time this app had public exposure.
    Question is : would you have liked knowing about this work in -progress since its development debut Or three days before the official release with clear info/manual attached?

    Let’s see how ethics work ?

    Pretty sure we already had this discussion 20-50 pages ago.

  • @papertiger said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @rs2000 said:
    Drambo is going to be for audio what Mozaic is for MIDI.
    An almost unlimited toolbox if you know what you're doing.

    I think this is the first post here that's really put me off :)

    Just make sure you don’t know what you’re doing and it sounds like you’ll be ok.

    Very elegant :)

  • @Daveypoo said:

    @supadom said:
    I feel you’re overreacting.
    There’s a wiki page with videos and other info on the app. I don’t have the link but related thread is floating near the top of the forum atm.

    Oh, don't mind me - I'm just screwing around. The troll was a reference to myself asking obviously stupid questions that have been asked 1,000 times in this thread already.

    I check this thread EVERY DAY just like most of you peeps. Just trying to keep the conversation light so we don't get so antsy waiting for Drambo to save the day.

    Go about your business - nothing to see here!

    👍🏻 Ah cool sorry

  • @Sergiu said:
    ...and all of this due to the time this app had public exposure.
    Question is : would you have liked knowing about this work in -progress since its development debut Or three days before the official release with clear info/manual attached?

    Let’s see how ethics work ?

    Ethics? What do ethics have to do with it?

    The conversation here as I understand it has influenced development in a good way.

    I frankly think that people that are annoyed by this thread should just ignore it.

  • edited February 2020

    @papertiger said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @bcrichards said:
    @rs2000 to extend that analogy a little further it’s as if every component in MOZAIC could be visually connected together, and rarely does something just not work.

    I think I’ve learned more about synthesis from using Drambo than any other tool. Some preexisting knowledge helps but because everything is laid out linearly, deciphering signal flow from the presets and user patches is simple (compared to following a bunch of wires in a traditional modular system)

    I've built tons of patches on the Nord Modular over the years and even though I consider it a very straightforward, easy-to-use system, never been as fast with it as with Drambo.

    I think that’s because the Nord modulars were more like traditional patch cable modulars than Drambo.

    I miss my G2 but I’m very excited for Drambo.

    Which is why I hate this thread and every time it gets bumped without a release date post. :disappointed:

    Believe me, it's worth the wait.
    What non-beta-testers are naturally missing is not only the excitement of being able to work with the app but also a lot of back and forth between the beta testers and @giku_beepstreet in regards of bug fixes, architectural improvements, discussions about feature requests and some patch sharing as well.
    Making sure that > 120 modules are all working well together in an endless amount of possible combinations is a really time-consuming task.
    And while writing descriptive text snippets for each included module, I'm finding even more things to consider, change or fix.

    I know that the endless waiting challenges people's patience but please consider that the code for VCV rack and its great modules, for example, was written by quite a number of people while Drambo is rather the unbelievable effort of an exceptional individual.

    I've just finished designing two modelled (acoustic) snare drum patches. And I've never before been as satisfied with my attempts as I am with Drambo now.
    To me, it's an overall more powerful, modern successor to the Nord Modular series that still manages to keep the fun of designing patches (and greatly enhances the experience).

  • There better be one massive 🎲 to press...

  • @gusgranite said:
    There better be one massive 🎲 to press...

    +many

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @gusgranite said:
    There better be one massive 🎲 to press...

    +many

    And when you've rolled the sum of zero, release day has arrived 😅

  • @rs2000 said:

    @papertiger said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @bcrichards said:
    @rs2000 to extend that analogy a little further it’s as if every component in MOZAIC could be visually connected together, and rarely does something just not work.

    I think I’ve learned more about synthesis from using Drambo than any other tool. Some preexisting knowledge helps but because everything is laid out linearly, deciphering signal flow from the presets and user patches is simple (compared to following a bunch of wires in a traditional modular system)

    I've built tons of patches on the Nord Modular over the years and even though I consider it a very straightforward, easy-to-use system, never been as fast with it as with Drambo.

    I think that’s because the Nord modulars were more like traditional patch cable modulars than Drambo.

    I miss my G2 but I’m very excited for Drambo.

    Which is why I hate this thread and every time it gets bumped without a release date post. :disappointed:

    Believe me, it's worth the wait.
    What non-beta-testers are naturally missing is not only the excitement of being able to work with the app but also a lot of back and forth between the beta testers and @giku_beepstreet in regards of bug fixes, architectural improvements, discussions about feature requests and some patch sharing as well.
    Making sure that > 120 modules are all working well together in an endless amount of possible combinations is a really time-consuming task.
    And while writing descriptive text snippets for each included module, I'm finding even more things to consider, change or fix.

    I know that the endless waiting challenges people's patience but please consider that the code for VCV rack and its great modules, for example, was written by quite a number of people while Drambo is rather the unbelievable effort of an exceptional individual.

    I've just finished designing two modelled (acoustic) snare drum patches. And I've never before been as satisfied with my attempts as I am with Drambo now.
    To me, it's an overall more powerful, modern successor to the Nord Modular series that still manages to keep the fun of designing patches (and greatly enhances the experience).

    I think everyone understands that, but it doesn’t make waiting any easier because so much of the process has been public. For me, it’s aggravating to know that there is an app that would fill several gaping holes on the iOS platform with no idea of when it will be released. And then to see it in action by beta testers doing the exact things I want to do with it that I can’t currently without convoluted workarounds or Rube Goldberg-type App-aratuses just rubs salt in the wound. :confounded:

    I don’t blame @giku_beepstreet and I don’t think he did it this way on purpose, but it reminds me of when Elektron used to tease things so far in advance that the inevitable backlash soured the release of products. As opposed to saying, ”We/I made this completely awesome thing. Want it? Here you go. You can buy it right now.“

    Waiting sucks. Drambo will be amazing when it drops, but I should probably sit this thread out until it does. Encouragement from beta testers is cold comfort. No offense! :smile: 🙏

  • I’m still pretty amazed that people can get so bent out of shape knowing an app is being worked on but not ready. No matter if it’s been reworked, rebuilt, changed, etc. Its never been released so nobody is missing anything. It’s not like it was released and said “it will do all this stuff” and then it didn’t do any of that stuff. I could see where that would be a normal grievance. But the complaining about this situation and even this thread in general makes no sense to me. Nobody has been hostile about anything other than the people that complain about the existence of the thread and it’s simple continuance annoying them for some reason. Somebody a few pages back was amazed the thread hadn’t been shutdown. Like....why would it need to be?

    No one has been harmed by the making and continuance of this thread.

    This thread is harmless.

    I’m just stoked to know it’s being worked on and tested constantly. That seems like a great thing to be going on. Knowing that is going on and it hasn’t been released makes me feel glad it’s still being tested. It means...it’s not ready :lol:

  • i’m not mad, i just want it 🤣 i’m getting older by the minute and want to drambo as much as i can before i’m rip

  • @papertiger Yes indeed, I don't know if it's a good idea to announce such a big project early.
    But then I guess that nobody would have expected how much Drambo has now evolved from the initial prototype and its description.

    In April 2018, Synth Anatomy wrote (excerpt from https://www.synthanatomy.com/2018/04/beepstreet-developing-new-modular-drum-synth-drambo-ios.html):

    ...
    The developer wrote on Facebook: I always wanted a modular drum machine with p-locks

    Drum Synthesis & Sample Playback?

    What we can already see is that the app is built around several modules and a step sequencer. Also, you can see that a sample module is being used, so it’s likely to be powered by samples and a synthesis engine similar to Elastic Drums.
    ...

    From today's view, comparing the synthesis engine with Elastic Drums would be plain ridiculous 😂

  • @drez said:
    Somebody a few pages back was amazed the thread hadn’t been shutdown. Like....why would it need to be?

    No one has been harmed by the making and continuance of this thread.

    This thread is harmless.

    I thought that shutdown comment was very strange as well. Don’t like it, don’t click on the thread! :smiley:

  • @rs2000 said:
    ... I don't know if it's a good idea to announce such a big project early.

    But...What difference does it make? Nobody is entitled to anything. It’s the same as if it didn’t exist at all. If it does make a difference for some reason, isn’t knowing that it does exist and is being actively developed a nice thing as well?

  • I just cannot see how this thread was constructive for Drambo’s shape...because I’m sure Giku had direct ongoing correspondence and feedback from his alleged testers and spokesmen in the first place. In the recent days something more considerate happen... the wiki stash! That is a good direction towards everyone!> @espiegel123 said:

    @Sergiu said:
    ...and all of this due to the time this app had public exposure.
    Question is : would you have liked knowing about this work in -progress since its development debut Or three days before the official release with clear info/manual attached?

    Let’s see how ethics work ?

    Ethics? What do ethics have to do with it?

    The conversation here as I understand it has influenced development in a good way.

    I frankly think that people that are annoyed by this thread should just ignore it.

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