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Oh the frustration .... iphone DAW??

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  • TarekithTarekith

    I've had to resign myself to using Garageband for this sort of thing. As simple as it is, I haven't really gotten on with any of the alternatives yet. Would be nice if there was a simple 4 or 8 track recorder for sure though.

  • db909db909

    Grooverider and Grand Finale. Or record stuff into Blocs Wave. Audioshare. I don’t need no stinking daw

  • Nu2moroNu2moro

    @Audiojunkie said:
    The key thing for me about the iPhone is the portable immediate-ness of song creation. That said, the OP makes a good point about the frustration of iPhone music-making. I'm passionate about doing it with the iPhone, because I just don't (and probably won't) have the time to go into my music room and sit down and write music there. I'm left with iPhone or nothing. I've even considered going back to the iPad, but it takes away from the immediate-ness (There! He said it again! I don't think that's really a word!). So, I'm left with the iPhone paradigm, which, because of the lack of decent hosts, is left imperfect. Here's what I'm doing:

    As others have mentioned, there are lots and lots of other options, such as FLStudio Mobile, Xewton Music Studio, Caustic, several grooveboxes, and several loopers, Xequence+AUM, etc.. But, the most complete systems/DAWs available on the iPhone are Gadget and Garageband. The problem with Gadget is that it is really messy to record long audio tracks, and the problem with Garageband is that there is currently a nasty AU rendering bug that cripples the app for anything other than built-in instruments.

    I am bypassing all of this by using.............

    Harmonic Dog's MultiTrack DAW!

    WTF?!?!? You've got to be kidding me!! You're insane!!

    Well, wait a minute... Let me explain and we'll see in the end...

    MultiTrack DAW does not have automation. I grant that. That's its weakness, and it is the reason I leave my phone and do mixing/mastering on my home computer. But here's what MultiTrack DAW 'DOES' have:

    • Rock solid, flawless stability--it NEVER crashes, and I NEVER lose my data. And even if I did, there are multiple ways of recovering it!
    • 24 tracks of solid audio multitracking (with freeze capability).
    • It's dead EASY to use--my handicapped cat, "Benny" with an IQ of less than 27 could probably master it in a day.
    • No, I'm just kidding. The cat is too dumb. But my mother-in-law could probably do it in a day. :wink:
    • It has great audio import/export features!

    I record loops and phrases and compile them in MultiTrack DAW. Yes! loops and phrases is the key! There is SO MUCH available--anything you can imagine can be done with all of your instruments, grooveboxes, music tools, etc. Everything can make a loop or phrase of music that can be imported into MultiTrack DAW tracks and compiled to create songs!

    Once Apple gets its act together and fixes GarageBand, I'll probably move back to that. But for now, nothing beats compiling everything in MultiTrack DAW (for me)!

    BTW, MultiTrack DAW is going to be adding MP3, AU effects, (and possibly even iOS11 Files support if he can get the time) in a couple of months!

    The most rock solid Multitrack Audio recorder available for the iPhone. :smile:

    I haven’t used that for a while! Looking forward to updates especially on the phone version.

  • erosseross

    @Audiojunkie said:
    The key thing for me about the iPhone is the portable immediate-ness of song creation. That said, the OP makes a good point about the frustration of iPhone music-making. I'm passionate about doing it with the iPhone, because I just don't (and probably won't) have the time to go into my music room and sit down and write music there. I'm left with iPhone or nothing. I've even considered going back to the iPad, but it takes away from the immediate-ness (There! He said it again! I don't think that's really a word!). So, I'm left with the iPhone paradigm, which, because of the lack of decent hosts, is left imperfect. Here's what I'm doing:

    As others have mentioned, there are lots and lots of other options, such as FLStudio Mobile, Xewton Music Studio, Caustic, several grooveboxes, and several loopers, Xequence+AUM, etc.. But, the most complete systems/DAWs available on the iPhone are Gadget and Garageband. The problem with Gadget is that it is really messy to record long audio tracks, and the problem with Garageband is that there is currently a nasty AU rendering bug that cripples the app for anything other than built-in instruments.

    I am bypassing all of this by using.............

    Harmonic Dog's MultiTrack DAW!

    WTF?!?!? You've got to be kidding me!! You're insane!!

    Well, wait a minute... Let me explain and we'll see in the end...

    MultiTrack DAW does not have automation. I grant that. That's its weakness, and it is the reason I leave my phone and do mixing/mastering on my home computer. But here's what MultiTrack DAW 'DOES' have:

    • Rock solid, flawless stability--it NEVER crashes, and I NEVER lose my data. And even if I did, there are multiple ways of recovering it!
    • 24 tracks of solid audio multitracking (with freeze capability).
    • It's dead EASY to use--my handicapped cat, "Benny" with an IQ of less than 27 could probably master it in a day.
    • No, I'm just kidding. The cat is too dumb. But my mother-in-law could probably do it in a day. :wink:
    • It has great audio import/export features!

    I record loops and phrases and compile them in MultiTrack DAW. Yes! loops and phrases is the key! There is SO MUCH available--anything you can imagine can be done with all of your instruments, grooveboxes, music tools, etc. Everything can make a loop or phrase of music that can be imported into MultiTrack DAW tracks and compiled to create songs!

    Once Apple gets its act together and fixes GarageBand, I'll probably move back to that. But for now, nothing beats compiling everything in MultiTrack DAW (for me)!

    BTW, MultiTrack DAW is going to be adding MP3, AU effects, (and possibly even iOS11 Files support if he can get the time) in a couple of months!

    The most rock solid Multitrack Audio recorder available for the iPhone. :smile:

    kinda like
    this
    multitrack daw
    is there a metronome?

  • TelefunkyTelefunky
    edited May 2018

    Multitrack DAW is my absolute favourite as a multitrack recorder with overdubbing.
    As easy as tape, just without rewind time B)
    But for a rough mix I always stick to Ferrite, much more precise editing, it does automation, the import is way faster and you can drag struff cross tracks.
    Labeled 'compatible with iPhone' in the store, but I never used it on one.

  • erosseross

    @Telefunky said:
    Multitrack DAW is my absolute favourite as a multitrack recorder with overdubbing.
    As easy as tape, just without rewind time B)
    But for a rough mix I always stick to Ferrite, much more precise editing, it does automation, the import is way faster and you can drag struff cross tracks.
    Labeled 'compatible with iPhone' in the store, but I never used it on one.

    looks cool, but does it work with audiobus or aum?

  • erosseross

    @Audiojunkie said:
    The key thing for me about the iPhone is the portable immediate-ness of song creation. That said, the OP makes a good point about the frustration of iPhone music-making. I'm passionate about doing it with the iPhone, because I just don't (and probably won't) have the time to go into my music room and sit down and write music there. I'm left with iPhone or nothing. I've even considered going back to the iPad, but it takes away from the immediate-ness (There! He said it again! I don't think that's really a word!). So, I'm left with the iPhone paradigm, which, because of the lack of decent hosts, is left imperfect. Here's what I'm doing:

    As others have mentioned, there are lots and lots of other options, such as FLStudio Mobile, Xewton Music Studio, Caustic, several grooveboxes, and several loopers, Xequence+AUM, etc.. But, the most complete systems/DAWs available on the iPhone are Gadget and Garageband. The problem with Gadget is that it is really messy to record long audio tracks, and the problem with Garageband is that there is currently a nasty AU rendering bug that cripples the app for anything other than built-in instruments.

    I am bypassing all of this by using.............

    Harmonic Dog's MultiTrack DAW!

    WTF?!?!? You've got to be kidding me!! You're insane!!

    Well, wait a minute... Let me explain and we'll see in the end...

    MultiTrack DAW does not have automation. I grant that. That's its weakness, and it is the reason I leave my phone and do mixing/mastering on my home computer. But here's what MultiTrack DAW 'DOES' have:

    • Rock solid, flawless stability--it NEVER crashes, and I NEVER lose my data. And even if I did, there are multiple ways of recovering it!
    • 24 tracks of solid audio multitracking (with freeze capability).
    • It's dead EASY to use--my handicapped cat, "Benny" with an IQ of less than 27 could probably master it in a day.
    • No, I'm just kidding. The cat is too dumb. But my mother-in-law could probably do it in a day. :wink:
    • It has great audio import/export features!

    I record loops and phrases and compile them in MultiTrack DAW. Yes! loops and phrases is the key! There is SO MUCH available--anything you can imagine can be done with all of your instruments, grooveboxes, music tools, etc. Everything can make a loop or phrase of music that can be imported into MultiTrack DAW tracks and compiled to create songs!

    Once Apple gets its act together and fixes GarageBand, I'll probably move back to that. But for now, nothing beats compiling everything in MultiTrack DAW (for me)!

    BTW, MultiTrack DAW is going to be adding MP3, AU effects, (and possibly even iOS11 Files support if he can get the time) in a couple of months!

    The most rock solid Multitrack Audio recorder available for the iPhone. :smile:

    i’m really loving this this so far. 3 questions? does
    it have a metronome? how do you trim a recorded track to grid? where is the “ bus” sending audio. am i missing another page?

  • wimwim
    edited May 2018

    @eross said:
    i’m really loving this this so far. 3 questions? does
    it have a metronome? how do you trim a recorded track to grid? where is the “ bus” sending audio. am i missing another page?

    I assumed you needed to do midi-sequencing? Doesn't have it. No busses either.

  • DerekDerek
    edited May 2018

    I haven’t used it, and the reviews on the App Store seem pretty all over the place, but N Track 9 looks like the best one for iPhone that I’ve come across. On paper, anyway. Midi, audio, audiobus, IAA, group and aux channels, audio import, and it supports auv3.

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/n-track-9-pro/id1160793386?mt=8

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie
    edited May 2018

    @Telefunky said:
    Multitrack DAW is my absolute favourite as a multitrack recorder with overdubbing.
    As easy as tape, just without rewind time B)
    But for a rough mix I always stick to Ferrite, much more precise editing, it does automation, the import is way faster and you can drag struff cross tracks.
    Labeled 'compatible with iPhone' in the store, but I never used it on one.

    Interesting! I looked into that once, but I think I dismissed it because it didn't support effects. Maybe I need to look at it again. It doesn't bill itself as a tool for pro audio, but for podcasting. Aside from the lack of effects, why might Ferrite be considered primarily useful just for podcasting? No Metronome? No BPM timeline? No tempo?

  • wimwim
    edited May 2018

    @Audiojunkie said:

    @Telefunky said:
    Multitrack DAW is my absolute favourite as a multitrack recorder with overdubbing.
    As easy as tape, just without rewind time B)
    But for a rough mix I always stick to Ferrite, much more precise editing, it does automation, the import is way faster and you can drag struff cross tracks.
    Labeled 'compatible with iPhone' in the store, but I never used it on one.

    Interesting! I looked into that once, but I think I dismissed it because it didn't support effects. Maybe I need to look at it again. It doesn't bill itself as a tool for pro audio, but for podcasting. Aside from the lack of effects, why might Ferrite be considered primarily useful just for podcasting?

    It supports IAA effects, though not AUv3 effects.

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    @eross said:

    @Audiojunkie said:
    The key thing for me about the iPhone is the portable immediate-ness of song creation. That said, the OP makes a good point about the frustration of iPhone music-making. I'm passionate about doing it with the iPhone, because I just don't (and probably won't) have the time to go into my music room and sit down and write music there. I'm left with iPhone or nothing. I've even considered going back to the iPad, but it takes away from the immediate-ness (There! He said it again! I don't think that's really a word!). So, I'm left with the iPhone paradigm, which, because of the lack of decent hosts, is left imperfect. Here's what I'm doing:

    As others have mentioned, there are lots and lots of other options, such as FLStudio Mobile, Xewton Music Studio, Caustic, several grooveboxes, and several loopers, Xequence+AUM, etc.. But, the most complete systems/DAWs available on the iPhone are Gadget and Garageband. The problem with Gadget is that it is really messy to record long audio tracks, and the problem with Garageband is that there is currently a nasty AU rendering bug that cripples the app for anything other than built-in instruments.

    I am bypassing all of this by using.............

    Harmonic Dog's MultiTrack DAW!

    WTF?!?!? You've got to be kidding me!! You're insane!!

    Well, wait a minute... Let me explain and we'll see in the end...

    MultiTrack DAW does not have automation. I grant that. That's its weakness, and it is the reason I leave my phone and do mixing/mastering on my home computer. But here's what MultiTrack DAW 'DOES' have:

    • Rock solid, flawless stability--it NEVER crashes, and I NEVER lose my data. And even if I did, there are multiple ways of recovering it!
    • 24 tracks of solid audio multitracking (with freeze capability).
    • It's dead EASY to use--my handicapped cat, "Benny" with an IQ of less than 27 could probably master it in a day.
    • No, I'm just kidding. The cat is too dumb. But my mother-in-law could probably do it in a day. :wink:
    • It has great audio import/export features!

    I record loops and phrases and compile them in MultiTrack DAW. Yes! loops and phrases is the key! There is SO MUCH available--anything you can imagine can be done with all of your instruments, grooveboxes, music tools, etc. Everything can make a loop or phrase of music that can be imported into MultiTrack DAW tracks and compiled to create songs!

    Once Apple gets its act together and fixes GarageBand, I'll probably move back to that. But for now, nothing beats compiling everything in MultiTrack DAW (for me)!

    BTW, MultiTrack DAW is going to be adding MP3, AU effects, (and possibly even iOS11 Files support if he can get the time) in a couple of months!

    The most rock solid Multitrack Audio recorder available for the iPhone. :smile:

    kinda like
    this
    multitrack daw
    is there a metronome?

    Yes! :-)

  • TelefunkyTelefunky
    edited May 2018

    @eross said:

    @Telefunky said:
    Multitrack DAW is my absolute favourite as a multitrack recorder with overdubbing.
    As easy as tape, just without rewind time B)
    But for a rough mix I always stick to Ferrite, much more precise editing, it does automation, the import is way faster and you can drag struff cross tracks.
    Labeled 'compatible with iPhone' in the store, but I never used it on one.

    looks cool, but does it work with audiobus or aum?

    never checked... until now... doesn't show up in any of them, oops.

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    @wim said:

    @Audiojunkie said:

    @Telefunky said:
    Multitrack DAW is my absolute favourite as a multitrack recorder with overdubbing.
    As easy as tape, just without rewind time B)
    But for a rough mix I always stick to Ferrite, much more precise editing, it does automation, the import is way faster and you can drag struff cross tracks.
    Labeled 'compatible with iPhone' in the store, but I never used it on one.

    Interesting! I looked into that once, but I think I dismissed it because it didn't support effects. Maybe I need to look at it again. It doesn't bill itself as a tool for pro audio, but for podcasting. Aside from the lack of effects, why might Ferrite be considered primarily useful just for podcasting?

    It supports IAA effects, though not AUv3 effects.

    Currently MultiTrack DAW has the does the same (although MultiTrack DAW should be supporting AU effects soon). How about other audio features? Metronome? BPM timeline? Tempo control?

    Another thing I like about MultiTrack DAW is its extreme efficiency (very well coded and light) as well as track freeze to further increase efficiency.

  • wimwim

    @Audiojunkie said:
    Currently MultiTrack DAW has the does the same (although MultiTrack DAW should be supporting AU effects soon). How about other audio features? Metronome? BPM timeline? Tempo control?

    I thought you were talking about MultiTrack DAW when you mentioned about the FX. Scratch my comment then. I don't know anything about Ferrite.

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    @wim said:

    @Audiojunkie said:
    Currently MultiTrack DAW has the does the same (although MultiTrack DAW should be supporting AU effects soon). How about other audio features? Metronome? BPM timeline? Tempo control?

    I thought you were talking about MultiTrack DAW when you mentioned about the FX. Scratch my comment then. I don't know anything about Ferrite.

    Ah! That makes sense! :wink:

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    @Telefunky said:

    @eross said:

    @Telefunky said:
    Multitrack DAW is my absolute favourite as a multitrack recorder with overdubbing.
    As easy as tape, just without rewind time B)
    But for a rough mix I always stick to Ferrite, much more precise editing, it does automation, the import is way faster and you can drag struff cross tracks.
    Labeled 'compatible with iPhone' in the store, but I never used it on one.

    looks cool, but does it work with audiobus or aum?

    never checked... until now... doesn't show up in any of them, oops.

    It works in Audiobus, and by default, that means it works with Ableton LINK (start/stop). Although admittedly, I don't use it for that--just for piecing together tracks from musical phrases and loops.

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    @Audiojunkie said:

    @Telefunky said:

    @eross said:

    @Telefunky said:
    Multitrack DAW is my absolute favourite as a multitrack recorder with overdubbing.
    As easy as tape, just without rewind time B)
    But for a rough mix I always stick to Ferrite, much more precise editing, it does automation, the import is way faster and you can drag struff cross tracks.
    Labeled 'compatible with iPhone' in the store, but I never used it on one.

    looks cool, but does it work with audiobus or aum?

    never checked... until now... doesn't show up in any of them, oops.

    It works in Audiobus, and by default, that means it works with Ableton LINK (start/stop). Although admittedly, I don't use it for that--just for piecing together tracks from musical phrases and loops.

    Scratch what I said too! I just pulled the same move as @wim . I was thinking you were talking about MultiTrack DAW, not Ferrite. :blush:

  • mjcouchemjcouche

    BM2 + AudioShare + AUM.

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    @mjcouche said:
    BM2 + AudioShare + AUM.

    The big drawback with BM2 is file management though....

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    I re-downloaded Ferrite. Yes, it looks like a lot of things that I would need as absolute essentials are missing. Which is unfortunate, since it looks really nice. After considering, MultiTrack DAW is still my choice. :smile:

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie
    edited May 2018

    @Tarekith said:
    I've had to resign myself to using Garageband for this sort of thing. As simple as it is, I haven't really gotten on with any of the alternatives yet. Would be nice if there was a simple 4 or 8 track recorder for sure though.

    MultiTrack DAW is an awesome 24 track recorder. If you use an iPhone, it is definitely worth looking in to. :smile:

  • mjcouchemjcouche

    @Audiojunkie once you learn it, it’s easy. It just takes time.

  • futureaztecfutureaztec

    I see people on here get into the whole "I am looking for 'X' but I can't quite find it anywhere, but I must have it because of 'Y'." But you have two ideas that seem fishy. You like the iPhone because of its "immediateness," and you want to record long audio tracks. How is an iPhone immediate where an iPad is not when recording long audio tracks? This is just a question to get you to rethink things if you get to the point where there just isn't the hardware/software situation you want and there is nothing you can do about it other than reprioritizing your needs so that you can get unstuck and get back to making music. I went from an iPhone to an iPad (reluctantly), but then a whole new world opened up. At first my mind kept saying -- it's not the Ableton I thought it would be. But once I dropped that nonsense, everything got fun again. You can't run BM3 or Cubasis on a phone yet, but even when you run it on an iPad you just open a whole new can of unfulfilled desires. :o

  • erosseross

    @Audiojunkie said:

    @eross said:

    @Audiojunkie said:
    The key thing for me about the iPhone is the portable immediate-ness of song creation. That said, the OP makes a good point about the frustration of iPhone music-making. I'm passionate about doing it with the iPhone, because I just don't (and probably won't) have the time to go into my music room and sit down and write music there. I'm left with iPhone or nothing. I've even considered going back to the iPad, but it takes away from the immediate-ness (There! He said it again! I don't think that's really a word!). So, I'm left with the iPhone paradigm, which, because of the lack of decent hosts, is left imperfect. Here's what I'm doing:

    As others have mentioned, there are lots and lots of other options, such as FLStudio Mobile, Xewton Music Studio, Caustic, several grooveboxes, and several loopers, Xequence+AUM, etc.. But, the most complete systems/DAWs available on the iPhone are Gadget and Garageband. The problem with Gadget is that it is really messy to record long audio tracks, and the problem with Garageband is that there is currently a nasty AU rendering bug that cripples the app for anything other than built-in instruments.

    I am bypassing all of this by using.............

    Harmonic Dog's MultiTrack DAW!

    WTF?!?!? You've got to be kidding me!! You're insane!!

    Well, wait a minute... Let me explain and we'll see in the end...

    MultiTrack DAW does not have automation. I grant that. That's its weakness, and it is the reason I leave my phone and do mixing/mastering on my home computer. But here's what MultiTrack DAW 'DOES' have:

    • Rock solid, flawless stability--it NEVER crashes, and I NEVER lose my data. And even if I did, there are multiple ways of recovering it!
    • 24 tracks of solid audio multitracking (with freeze capability).
    • It's dead EASY to use--my handicapped cat, "Benny" with an IQ of less than 27 could probably master it in a day.
    • No, I'm just kidding. The cat is too dumb. But my mother-in-law could probably do it in a day. :wink:
    • It has great audio import/export features!

    I record loops and phrases and compile them in MultiTrack DAW. Yes! loops and phrases is the key! There is SO MUCH available--anything you can imagine can be done with all of your instruments, grooveboxes, music tools, etc. Everything can make a loop or phrase of music that can be imported into MultiTrack DAW tracks and compiled to create songs!

    Once Apple gets its act together and fixes GarageBand, I'll probably move back to that. But for now, nothing beats compiling everything in MultiTrack DAW (for me)!

    BTW, MultiTrack DAW is going to be adding MP3, AU effects, (and possibly even iOS11 Files support if he can get the time) in a couple of months!

    The most rock solid Multitrack Audio recorder available for the iPhone. :smile:

    kinda like
    this
    multitrack daw
    is there a metronome?

    Yes! :-)

    where is it?

  • DYMSDYMS

    I sent the developer of Ferrite a tweet soon after it came out about using it for multi-track DAW type use, and they replied that it wasn't meant to be used that way. It is more for creating podcasts, radio interviews, etc, than for multi-track recording. Shame.

  • philowerxphilowerx

    BeatMaker 2 is still the deepest iPhone DAW available hands down.

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    @eross said:

    @Audiojunkie said:

    @eross said:

    @Audiojunkie said:
    The key thing for me about the iPhone is the portable immediate-ness of song creation. That said, the OP makes a good point about the frustration of iPhone music-making. I'm passionate about doing it with the iPhone, because I just don't (and probably won't) have the time to go into my music room and sit down and write music there. I'm left with iPhone or nothing. I've even considered going back to the iPad, but it takes away from the immediate-ness (There! He said it again! I don't think that's really a word!). So, I'm left with the iPhone paradigm, which, because of the lack of decent hosts, is left imperfect. Here's what I'm doing:

    As others have mentioned, there are lots and lots of other options, such as FLStudio Mobile, Xewton Music Studio, Caustic, several grooveboxes, and several loopers, Xequence+AUM, etc.. But, the most complete systems/DAWs available on the iPhone are Gadget and Garageband. The problem with Gadget is that it is really messy to record long audio tracks, and the problem with Garageband is that there is currently a nasty AU rendering bug that cripples the app for anything other than built-in instruments.

    I am bypassing all of this by using.............

    Harmonic Dog's MultiTrack DAW!

    WTF?!?!? You've got to be kidding me!! You're insane!!

    Well, wait a minute... Let me explain and we'll see in the end...

    MultiTrack DAW does not have automation. I grant that. That's its weakness, and it is the reason I leave my phone and do mixing/mastering on my home computer. But here's what MultiTrack DAW 'DOES' have:

    • Rock solid, flawless stability--it NEVER crashes, and I NEVER lose my data. And even if I did, there are multiple ways of recovering it!
    • 24 tracks of solid audio multitracking (with freeze capability).
    • It's dead EASY to use--my handicapped cat, "Benny" with an IQ of less than 27 could probably master it in a day.
    • No, I'm just kidding. The cat is too dumb. But my mother-in-law could probably do it in a day. :wink:
    • It has great audio import/export features!

    I record loops and phrases and compile them in MultiTrack DAW. Yes! loops and phrases is the key! There is SO MUCH available--anything you can imagine can be done with all of your instruments, grooveboxes, music tools, etc. Everything can make a loop or phrase of music that can be imported into MultiTrack DAW tracks and compiled to create songs!

    Once Apple gets its act together and fixes GarageBand, I'll probably move back to that. But for now, nothing beats compiling everything in MultiTrack DAW (for me)!

    BTW, MultiTrack DAW is going to be adding MP3, AU effects, (and possibly even iOS11 Files support if he can get the time) in a couple of months!

    The most rock solid Multitrack Audio recorder available for the iPhone. :smile:

    kinda like
    this
    multitrack daw
    is there a metronome?

    Yes! :-)

    where is it?

    Here :smile:

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    @Derek said:
    I haven’t used it, and the reviews on the App Store seem pretty all over the place, but N Track 9 looks like the best one for iPhone that I’ve come across. On paper, anyway. Midi, audio, audiobus, IAA, group and aux channels, audio import, and it supports auv3.

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/n-track-9-pro/id1160793386?mt=8

    You said it: “on paper”. Unfortunately, it is so buggy that it almost isn’t usable. However, it does get better with each version, so there is hope. :smile:

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    @eross said:

    @Audiojunkie said:
    The key thing for me about the iPhone is the portable immediate-ness of song creation. That said, the OP makes a good point about the frustration of iPhone music-making. I'm passionate about doing it with the iPhone, because I just don't (and probably won't) have the time to go into my music room and sit down and write music there. I'm left with iPhone or nothing. I've even considered going back to the iPad, but it takes away from the immediate-ness (There! He said it again! I don't think that's really a word!). So, I'm left with the iPhone paradigm, which, because of the lack of decent hosts, is left imperfect. Here's what I'm doing:

    As others have mentioned, there are lots and lots of other options, such as FLStudio Mobile, Xewton Music Studio, Caustic, several grooveboxes, and several loopers, Xequence+AUM, etc.. But, the most complete systems/DAWs available on the iPhone are Gadget and Garageband. The problem with Gadget is that it is really messy to record long audio tracks, and the problem with Garageband is that there is currently a nasty AU rendering bug that cripples the app for anything other than built-in instruments.

    I am bypassing all of this by using.............

    Harmonic Dog's MultiTrack DAW!

    WTF?!?!? You've got to be kidding me!! You're insane!!

    Well, wait a minute... Let me explain and we'll see in the end...

    MultiTrack DAW does not have automation. I grant that. That's its weakness, and it is the reason I leave my phone and do mixing/mastering on my home computer. But here's what MultiTrack DAW 'DOES' have:

    • Rock solid, flawless stability--it NEVER crashes, and I NEVER lose my data. And even if I did, there are multiple ways of recovering it!
    • 24 tracks of solid audio multitracking (with freeze capability).
    • It's dead EASY to use--my handicapped cat, "Benny" with an IQ of less than 27 could probably master it in a day.
    • No, I'm just kidding. The cat is too dumb. But my mother-in-law could probably do it in a day. :wink:
    • It has great audio import/export features!

    I record loops and phrases and compile them in MultiTrack DAW. Yes! loops and phrases is the key! There is SO MUCH available--anything you can imagine can be done with all of your instruments, grooveboxes, music tools, etc. Everything can make a loop or phrase of music that can be imported into MultiTrack DAW tracks and compiled to create songs!

    Once Apple gets its act together and fixes GarageBand, I'll probably move back to that. But for now, nothing beats compiling everything in MultiTrack DAW (for me)!

    BTW, MultiTrack DAW is going to be adding MP3, AU effects, (and possibly even iOS11 Files support if he can get the time) in a couple of months!

    The most rock solid Multitrack Audio recorder available for the iPhone. :smile:

    i’m really loving this this so far. 3 questions? does
    it have a metronome? how do you trim a recorded track to grid? where is the “ bus” sending audio. am i missing another page?

    Sorry, I missed your post here. I advise you to read the manual to get the full understanding of the capabilities of the app. It’s short. :smile: Also, the HarmonicDog forum has lots of tips and tricks as well. Track trimming is very easy: make sure snap to grid is on, and then long press on the track and select “Edit”. The. Drag the sliders as needed. :smile: I’m not sure what you are asking when you say, “bus sending audio “. You can record or input audio, but there aren’t any busses. It is a very simple MultiTrack DAW, but what it does, it does very well! :wink:

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